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Should we play Evra at Anfield in the Cup?
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
The message should be that Liverpool's lack of control of the situation has escalated the situation to a point where it's unsafe for him to play.
Evra has too much pride to sit this out.
He'll play.
He'll play.
He is pro enough to not let the abuse get to him and he can play his game.
Evra is not the sort of player to retaliate in any way.
The best way to shut the vile scum up is to play him and just beat them.
Who can we play there? I suppose Jonny can come in as he's left footed.It would make it more defensively stable but lacking the overlapping of Evra
Things are bound to be a little bit nasty but who else are we going to play at left back?
Not only will Evra play, he'll have an absolute blinder.
And call us bottle merchants?
I'm sorry that it's come to this, big decision to be made.Ultimately it's down to Paddy
Yes
Last minute winner at the kop.
I think I'd just give up watching football after that. Nothing would compare.
Evans? Anyone who can handle the occasion should be fine against the extraordinary pace and bewildering trickery of Dirk Kuyt.
Dont agree , he should play and let the Police and ground staff sort out the idiots that will be there.
Pulling Evra out just because he will get some shit ,would send out thee wrong message.
Yes Evra should play, adversity is to be faced if it is to be beaten. If hegets nothing but abuse, then it means that the problems are more widespread then first feared.
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Of course we should!
He'll get abuse alright but it may well be the normal swearing kind and not racist.Not nice either way
There are good reasons to let him play and vice versa. I don't genuinely think he's in any form of danger but it will make a tense situation worse - the main point for me is that I'd ecpect Evra to be affected on the pitch and it doesn't help us as a team - see Rooney when he plays at Everton.
Either way, I agree - give Evra the choice and stick by him.
Its not about if evra will recieve racial abuse but justdogs abuse in general.
It will be red hot there that day for Paddy and the atmosphere might get to him. What if he gets wound up and lashes out at someone getting himself sent off, that wouldn't do us any good would it?
If we have cover and good options to play there it might be wise to leave him out. Avoid the whole thing becoming a side show around Evra.
But then again fergie might tell him to go out and ruffle a few feathers so that Liverpool will be intent on getting Evra thus leaving the rest of the lads to play away.
Its a big call. Im sure the manager will do what he thinks is best for the club and the right result.
What message will it send out to paddy if he's dropped? Sorry mate you don't have the mental stength to take some shit from certain fans..
Give him this quote from Mandela to read before the game
I learned that courage was not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it. The brave man is not he who does not feel afraid, but he who conquers that fear.
It's not really about 'messages' - I don't really care what it 'says'. It's not the abuse I'm concerned with - it's Evra's / the Team's reaction to it.
There are good points for both sides - I suppose it will be up to Evra / SAF -
I trust they'll discuss and make the right decision.
It's Liverpool's chance to get back some respect.
Any racist abuse against Evra and they're official a racist club.
And the FA should ban Liverpool!!!!!
Any racist abuse against Evra and they're official a racist club.
And the FA should ban Liverpool!!!!!
Evra won't be sent off for lashing out (has he ever done anything like that before in his career?). And it would be stupid to rest him on the off chance it might happen.
I doubt the fans' abuse will get to him.
He'll know they're only disgracing themselves
I doubt the fans' abuse will get to him.
He'll know they're only disgracing themselves
No, we shouldn't drop him. He may receive a lot of abuse, but if it's so much abuse that he can't play, then surely Liverpool would get into trouble for it? He hasn't done anything wrong throughout this case.
Exactly. Playing Neville then (or in this case Evra) creates a big target for the fans aim their vile insults at and something we can do without. It unsettles the whole team in my opinion.
In an ideal world, Evra shouldn't play but we will just have to wait and see.
Its not a dropping as such though is it, more an omission for other reasons than form or discipline.
Evra will be the target of Liverpool players and fans alike. He might play and have a screamer of a game or he might react to constant abuse and bad tackles by booting someone and getting a red card, and we cant afford to have him sent off in a big game like that, especially as we have them a few days later in the league.
Im sure paddy will want to play one way or another but ferguson might not want him to given all the hype.
If it was me id be leaving it until the day of the match before i decided if his head was right on the day.
Might be an outside chance, but maybe their fans will behave. Remember City's fans were respctful during the silence for the Munich anniversary.
True, but IIRC City as a club made an effort to ensure their fans behaved. I can't see Doglish or Liverpool showing the same effort or dignity, particularly after their behaviour so far.
I couldn't handle a moral defeat two rounds in a row.
I know, I am trying to be optimistic rather than slate them before it's even happened. Saying that, having just been on Rawk, I fear the worst.
Evra should play though- could actually help us by building up a siege mentality and unity among the players.
They´ll just boo Evras every touch. I really doubt any of them would be crazy enough to use racist stuff with the eyes and ears of the world on them.
It´s really the safety of United fans amid the scumbags whipped up by Dalglish that should be the concern.
I think both clubs should wear Kick It Out T-Shirts in the warm-up's and try to draw a line under this. Liverpool or Kenny should also publicly condemn any Suarez/Evra chants in much the same way SAF condemned the Arsene chants. If none of this happens and Kenny continues to whine about how fans treat Suarez then they can all go feck themselves. Evra must play.
Liverpool should be a lot more concerned about Evra playing than we should. Paddy can handle it I'm sure but the damage this could do to their already tattered reputation could be irreparable. The booing of a victim of racist abuse will be one thing but even the suggestion of anything more sinister directed at Evra would be disastrous for them as a club.
I think has a club Liverpool have to try and defuse this potential dangerous situation.
They will have to have extra Police in and outside the ground and more stewards watching over there fans , and any fan that is seen to be shouting or doing anything racist he should be thrown out of the ground.
Even more so after the latest incident with Oldham , if anything happens in our match , I can see the FA stepping in and pressing charges on Liverpool.
They will have to have extra Police in and outside the ground and more stewards watching over there fans , and any fan that is seen to be shouting or doing anything racist he should be thrown out of the ground.
Even more so after the latest incident with Oldham , if anything happens in our match , I can see the FA stepping in and pressing charges on Liverpool.
sure. he can take care of himself. it's also not like there won't be a ton of security, cameras, and microphones everywhere. unless he's hurt, or the matchup is bad, he needs to start. he needs to defend more but he needs to start.
He's gonna have to go back there eventually.
No time like the present.
No time like the present.
Me neither.To be fair today was the biggest moral defeat since Reading came back from 3-0 down to lose 3-2...or any time we've beaten Arsenal.
now that's funny.
I'd play him, but its up to him and Sir Alex. They will know what to do.
Not unless Evra specifically asks not to be played should it be even considered. Liverpool will welcome themselves to an empty Anfield if the shout racist abuses to him.