If I was that black guy, I'd feel like she's trying to get me shot.
That's nothing to do with the internet, that's the reality black people in America have to live with.
So with that said, I don't think it's over the top to say she might have been trying to get him killed, for the simple reason that she could easily have got him killed here.
That's why his phones out and why he's recording because that's his reality, and I think some on here can't quite grasp that.
I would phrase it differently, I would say that she didn't care if the police shot/battered him or any other african american because strangely enough she didn't describe him and any african american in the area could have been in trouble based on her deception. People need to think about what comes into a police officer mind when they are told on the radio that someone's life is being threatened and then add to that the racial context.
How on earth does someone that thick get that sort of job?
Brain so tiny she doesn't even realise as she spends the best part of 5 minutes strangling her dog on camera.
Weird to just hand it back to the rescue as well, even with the social media furore, had she only just adopted it?
Good point to be honest. I do still sympathise with people being persecuted on social media even ones who have done wrong. But, if there are repeatedly no consequences for people’s actions, how will they learn or change their behaviour. You can’t bring any criminal proceedings against Karen, so essentially if she wasn’t taken to trial on social media nothing would happen to her.If regular justice existed i'd be more inclined to criticise social media justice. It doesn't though. It helps skew the balance of power back towards regular people so I'm 100% ok with it, despite the many unpleasant consequences.
You didn't miss a lot.I don't even know what the Karen thing is.
She adopted him about two to three years ago. I feel bad for him. He was treated like mint and really loved her from the pictures posted.
It doesn't just have to be an opportunity to jump on the right train though does it? Undoubtedly, her reaction is unhinged but it's also possible for 2 people to be acting like cnuts of varying degrees isn't it?The fact this is your major take from this story says an awful lot about you.
It doesn't just have to be an opportunity to jump on the right train though does it? Undoubtedly, her reaction is unhinged but it's also possible for 2 people to be acting like cnuts of varying degrees isn't it?
Presumably the filming. Which he did to protect himself. Which turned out to be a valid reason for him filming. Which is a crime because...sorry. I can't do it.In this instance what was cnut like about the man’s behaviour?
Mint = strangled, does it?
No. I haven’t said that at all. I’m saying it’s a very wrong headed suggestion that that was her intent.
How is that so hard for people to grasp? Has the internet fcuked everyone up that much? You’ve even escalated the word ‘Threatening’ to ‘Attacking’. It’s so tiresome.
She behaved like a terrible person. She’s racist. She seems to have got her comeuppance in short order. It doesn’t need invented drama thrown on top.
With that said, a lot of folks feel differently and clearly think she wanted to get the guy killed. I’ll leave those folks to it as we’re never going to close that kind of gap.
She's clearly a complete moron and a racist one at that too.
But I also think the internet mob mentality is a dangerous part of our society these days. These sort of people getting punished by the letter of the law is the way to go. The whole crusaders of justice let's get em weaponising that social media does, is often unnecessary (not always of course, sometimes it is useful). But systemically, it's a problem.
Then again, we live in a world of extremes don't we? Where in the same breath as the above, I often feel political correctness isn't prevailant enough with right wing across the world bringing the bigots out of the woodwork and normalising fringe behaviour.
In a nutshell, we should all focus on that poor dog and his neck.
She was always posting pictures on facebook of him. He was treated better than a king by her. He adored her as well.
I just hope he does not lose out because of this.
She adopted him about two to three years ago. I feel bad for him. He was treated like mint and really loved her from the pictures posted.
She was always posting pictures on facebook of him. He was treated better than a king by her. He adored her as well.
I just hope he does not lose out because of this.
Do you not have 'wasting police time' laws?There is no legal punishment for this sort of behavior. I have never heard of anyone getting in trouble for wrongly calling the cops on someone, especially after the cops proceed to arrest/kill the innocent party.
Best case scenario: a law gets put in place to dis-incentivize this. In the meantime, mob mentality, while very sub optimal and heavy handed at time, serves as some sort of actual deterrent. Like, if you know there's a good chance that the stupid mob will get you fired/doxxed if you weaponize 911 services against innocent black people, then maybe you will think twice before dialing.
Sucks for her that she had to be the sacrificial idiot, but hey ho
You know you’re talking about a dog, right?She adopted him about two to three years ago. I feel bad for him. He was treated like mint and really loved her from the pictures posted.
Well, I personally wouldn't go around documenting other people's bad behaviour with a phone. If serious stuff was taking place then, yeah, it could be a useful tool. But using it to capture minor transgressions seems a bit OTT. And the other problem with snippets of bad behaviour is that it's a snippet, free of context, so you have no idea what might've preceded the footage.In this instance what was cnut like about the man’s behaviour?
Well, I personally wouldn't go around documenting other people's bad behaviour with a phone. If serious stuff was taking place then, yeah, it could be a useful tool. But using it to capture minor transgressions seems a bit OTT. And the other problem with snippets of bad behaviour is that it's a snippet, free of context, so you have no idea what might've preceded the footage.
I'm not in any way condoning her behaviour. It's there for all to see. She's appalling. But I am condoning the right to be open-minded about what we see and to interrogate it, rather than just rushing to condemn, which is a modern ill that I find pretty unpleasant in its own way.
Are you part of an ethnic group which has been a victim of (police) injustice and violence on almost a daily basis? Genuine question. I am not, and I also think I wouldn't have that reflex, but it's hard to put yourself in their mindset if you're not experiencing stuff like this on a recurrent basis (in your country in general, or on a personal level).Well, I personally wouldn't go around documenting other people's bad behaviour with a phone. If serious stuff was taking place then, yeah, it could be a useful tool. But using it to capture minor transgressions seems a bit OTT. And the other problem with snippets of bad behaviour is that it's a snippet, free of context, so you have no idea what might've preceded the footage.
I'm not in any way condoning her behaviour. It's there for all to see. She's appalling. But I am condoning the right to be open-minded about what we see and to interrogate it, rather than just rushing to condemn, which is a modern ill that I find pretty unpleasant in its own way.
Yeah, you might be right. The guy seems really placid and she seems very brittle, so it's a fair extrapolation.Sure, but we didn't see what happened prior to the guy starting to film. I'd be willing to wager she was immediately threatening which is why dude started to document the interaction.
Do you not have 'wasting police time' laws?
A phone video (from February) surfacing just got men in Georgia charged with murder and put under investigation for a hate crime for shooting an unarmed black man who was jogging through their neighborhood.Well, I personally wouldn't go around documenting other people's bad behaviour with a phone. If serious stuff was taking place then, yeah, it could be a useful tool. But using it to capture minor transgressions seems a bit OTT. And the other problem with snippets of bad behaviour is that it's a snippet, free of context, so you have no idea what might've preceded the footage.
I'm not in any way condoning her behaviour. It's there for all to see. She's appalling. But I am condoning the right to be open-minded about what we see and to interrogate it, rather than just rushing to condemn, which is a modern ill that I find pretty unpleasant in its own way.
It didn't start as an altercation about race, it became one when she lost the plot. The uploader suggests that a bird watcher filmed someone walking their dog without a lead, presumably because it disturbs the birds. That, to me, is not worthy of recording. And, before you shove me into the online leper colony, I'll repeat that I would never condone her behaviour. Her reaction is genuinely shocking.Are you part of an ethnic group which has been a victim of (police) injustice and violence on almost a daily basis? Genuine question. I am not, and I also think I wouldn't have that reflex, but it's hard to put yourself in their mindset if you're not experiencing stuff like this on a recurrent basis (in your country in general, or on a personal level).
Taking your phone out to record an altercation seems just like a cautious approach to me these days.
Some of the replies are amazing.
Right, got it.There are laws against filing a false police report. At that point there is a paper trail, as well as intent, that can be used to prosecute someone for perjury, and they could be liable for expenses/time incurred by the police.
However it would be much harder to arrest someone for blatantly misusing 911 services. The element of malice or deception needs to be proven. If there is any ambiguity in a legal sense, prosecutors will usually decline to move forward with the case in favor of more weighty cases. Plus, police do encourage people to call suspicious behavior in, and being more aggressive in terms of arresting misusers (unless the behavior is just absolutely blatant and rock solid legal-wise, like swatting for example) would be detrimental to that end.
So short answer to your question: if there are any such laws, they are not used for a variety of reasons.
Baffling and shitty from all directions then. Shit of her to get so out of her mind that she nearly hung him. Then doubly shit of her to just coin him back to the adoption centre because of some social media pressure. Pathetic, hope he gets better luck with his next home.
Not sure about the dog being treated well, earlier today I saw screenshots of the dogs Instagram and apparently it was always getting injured and it appeared she was injuring the dog to get attention.
I'd question the motives of anyone whose first reaction to that video is to complain about the treatment the woman is getting.