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Solskjær’s Multi-Year Plan
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With Matic possibly gone, Fred being useless, we'll need 3 midfielders
That's what I'm afraid about. Just like what we did this season selling Lukaku without signing a striker, we don't sign any midfielder and enter the season with Fred, Scott and Periera as our main lineup.
If United stay a successful brand who finish sixth, why would the Glazers consider selling? Would that not still make them a substantial amount of money?
We badly one already in January. If we don't try correct this in the winter, there is no way we'll buy him 3 CMs next summerThat's what I'm afraid about. Just like what we did this season selling Lukaku without signing a striker, we don't sign any midfielder and enter the season with Fred, Scott and Periera as our main lineup.
Phelan interim manager for the remainder of 19-20. Wait and see.
Does anyone really think Pogba will be here next season?
After he's gone we will only have De Gea left who in the world class category and I'm not sure he will stay either. So what rebuild are you talking about when we should be concentrating on keeping our best players and not giving out silly contracts to players like Rashford who ain't done feck all to deserve one.
Ole is a yes sir so feck what he says.
After he's gone we will only have De Gea left who in the world class category and I'm not sure he will stay either. So what rebuild are you talking about when we should be concentrating on keeping our best players and not giving out silly contracts to players like Rashford who ain't done feck all to deserve one.
Ole is a yes sir so feck what he says.
What multi-year plan? We don't do those at United.
I'd be absolutely delighted if you were right, but I can't see why the Glazers would want to sell.
Manchester United is a very profitable business, and likely to remain so for many years to come. It's just easy money for the owners, and they have no reason that I know of to walk away.
Unless Fred is completely useless, CM is probably not that big of a priority. We need a winger for sure, and probably an old experienced striker. We'll probably get the latter in the January window.
Playing exciting football - Yes
Developing youth - Yes
Was he at fault because Newcastle and West Hame would not sell Rice or Longstaff - No
It was always gonna be a painful rebuild. But Ole has signed 3 players that have all slotted in right away. Greenwood and Garner will take time to develop but will get there.
If Ole can make a game changer signing in January like Zaha or an up and coming box to box like McGinn, then perhaps we may have a chance to pinch 4th. With the current squad I can't see it unless Fred suddenly becomes world class.
If no Maddison and Sancho then we'll find other big names that fit the profile. Richarlison and Ruben Neves or something.
We have huge holes in the team. But Ole has us playing the right way, has us buying the right type of players, so he seems to be taking us in the right direction for the first time since Fergie quit. We can't judge him till he has made 2 more big signings.
The owners are never going to pay for 5-6 players in one window.
We bought 5 players in 2014.
Herrera
Shaw
Rojo
Blind
Di Maria
5 in 2015 too.
Martial
Memphis
Schweinsteiger
Schneiderlin
Darmian
Its becoming obvious that this first half of the season is a shit test for our attacking players. He has removed the attacking players that had no chance of playing in a certain style, now he's assessing the likes of Lingard, Rashford, Martial, James etc to see if they're up to cut the mustard. The Glazers have copped stick for not reinvesting in the front line, but imagine they do and the likes of Rashford and Lingard keep getting away with these subpar performances? I think ole probably wanted a right midfielder and that was all the attacking players he wanted. Midfield is the same with McTominay. Give him a season to see whether we need to invest heavily or lightly before spending the cash.
Instead, he's thrown them in the deep end. Rashford can't hide at the moment, neither can Martial, or Lingard. The pressure is on and if they don't like it or can't handle it, they're going to get the arse.
Instead, he's thrown them in the deep end. Rashford can't hide at the moment, neither can Martial, or Lingard. The pressure is on and if they don't like it or can't handle it, they're going to get the arse.
He won't be here by Christmas. If he's still here, we will be facing a relegation battle. Relegation or a relegation battle would probably lead the Glazers to sell the club so such a horrible thing might actually be a good thing.
Let's hope you're right
Pogba, Matic will leave next year, leaving us a midfield of unproven players.
Good luck for any manager who wants to fix that, especially he'll have to work with Woodward.
Good luck for any manager who wants to fix that, especially he'll have to work with Woodward.
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The Solskjær plan. Redefine the game. The antipep, play football without midfielders. Formation 4 0 6
Fingers crossed.
He'll then win a few games on rebound and get a full manager contract more lucrative than Klopp and Pochettino's contracts.
The board will leak a news about looking for a DOF and a few recently retired former United players will be linked then nothing will happen. We'll sign Sean Longstaff for 65M during summer after a long drawn out negotiation after which Woodward ends up paying Newcastle what they wanted in the first place.
It's either that or they are going hands off and just taking the dividends. Easy money as long as Woodward keeps the sponsors rolling in.
The mood around the club is staggering at the moment. Relegation battle? Sacked by Christmas?
Performances haven't been bad at all this season. The team played well enough to have won all 4 games. I just hope the negativity doesn't lead to players and senior figures at the club losing faith in this approach. The Southampton result was really disappointing but the European champions were a missed Ings sitter away from the same result last week.
Since Ole took over, he has lost the club's highest paid player, the club's all time most expensive forward, 2 midfielders who cost £55m combined, the most consistent defender at the club in 5 years and has signed 1 top defender and 2 promising kids. The United midfield is the poorest in talent I have ever seen at the club.
He's trying to rebuild a culture at the club after years of recruiting players with really poor character. He's clearing the decks and giving youngsters more chances. It's the right approach.
But playing such a young team means results will suffer. He's weakened the quality of a squad already lacking quality to reset the culture of the club. The club hierarchy and fans need to support him.
Performances haven't been bad at all this season. The team played well enough to have won all 4 games. I just hope the negativity doesn't lead to players and senior figures at the club losing faith in this approach. The Southampton result was really disappointing but the European champions were a missed Ings sitter away from the same result last week.
Since Ole took over, he has lost the club's highest paid player, the club's all time most expensive forward, 2 midfielders who cost £55m combined, the most consistent defender at the club in 5 years and has signed 1 top defender and 2 promising kids. The United midfield is the poorest in talent I have ever seen at the club.
He's trying to rebuild a culture at the club after years of recruiting players with really poor character. He's clearing the decks and giving youngsters more chances. It's the right approach.
But playing such a young team means results will suffer. He's weakened the quality of a squad already lacking quality to reset the culture of the club. The club hierarchy and fans need to support him.
He is not doing anything apart from selling players who are not good enough. But as a manager he needs to coach the players he has to play basic football. He has not done that either. He has not got a clue
He said he will be successful so he will be back to Molde in January or June.
You don't see a change in style of play this season? The way the team plays through the lines has improved so much this season. The James goal was a fantastic team goal.
There are some good signs there, better than you would expect with some pretty limited footballers in midfield.
Multi year plan. How about proving he should see our the whole of this season first?There's been no improvement this season. The only improvement I saw was in his first two games due to a new manager bump.
I'm not talking about an overall "they are better than last year" improvement. I am talking about a new style of play and a marked improvement in how they play through the lines. That's not a new manager bounce. It's a style of play that is being coached and is showing promise. Early days but the signs are positive.
There's a definite plan to play into Mata or Pereira with their back to goal and use the running power of Pogba and McTominay (or Wan Bissaka/Young in wider areas) to come onto the ball and drive at the defence. It worked really well for the goal. Unfortunately, the rest of the time, the options taken in the final third from there are still pretty awful.
Longterm plan: doing a Milan.
I've always found it weird that a club like Milan might get so bad so quickly. They have a money problem but we're the glaring example that money alone do not guarantee success.
I've always found it weird that a club like Milan might get so bad so quickly. They have a money problem but we're the glaring example that money alone do not guarantee success.
No I'm afraid I cannot see this marked new style of play and improvement in playing through the lines, nor are the signs so far promising. There's a difference in that we seem to be playing with a higher tempo and running more. But other than that there doesn't appear to be any imprint of top level coaching whatsoever. Ole is essentially doing what anyone who wants to go back to the good old days would do, but without evidently high level of managenent/coaching. I mean, I can also waltz into a club wanting to play like Pep or Klopp, but it doesn't mean squat without having actually quality to executive ideas (or indeed existence of good ideas).
Aaargh, I was being half facetious there bud. Just hinting that OGS needs results as well, or he might not be able to see his plan through. Here’s hoping!
Both Pep and Klopp had disappointing first seasons despite being heavily backed in the transfer market. Ole now has a worse squad than the one he inherited. Give the guy a chance before completely writing him off.
I am not completely writing him off. I am doubting that he's good enough though. He's been here for around 30 games already and unlike Pep and Klopp, his tactical imprint appears to be missing. He's got this season to do whatever he wants to, but I'm not positive at all. Even when results don't go swimmingly, you should be able to see the imprint of the manager taking hold (as was the case with Klopp). With Ole, I just can't see the excellence. Which isn't surprising given his lack of pedigree in management I suppose.
Spot on.
The clubs value will start to fall as the team is now mid table quality so the time for them to cash in is now.
All the good work and pain SAF did in 86-92 along with the success it bought us for nearly 2 decades has now been squandered by these parasites and we are more or less back where we started.
It's still going to take us 3-5 years to repair the damage the glazers have done to the club after they have gone.
Well ole has shifted out quite a bit of deadwood already and if he manages to get the glazers out we should name a stand after him.
It also isn't surprising given his players. His first choice midfield contains Scott McTominay, Jesse Lingard and Andreas Pereira/Dan James. That is the group of players (along with Pogba) responsible for implementing his style of play in midfield.
His only other options are Matic who regularly gets passed by stationary objects, Juan Mata who is a lovely guy but has the athleticism of a 6 year old girl and Fred who has been a £50m flop.
Poor Pep only inherited Fernandinho, Kevin De Bruyne and David Silva in midfield. I have no idea how he coped.
Ole is implememting a new style but his main aim this season is to re-establish a Manchester United culture in the playing group. Fergie always reiterated that a player's character was as important as his ability. I hope he's right because these players need a hell of a lot of character to make up for the lack of ability.
I agree there's progress being made, but the difference between those former and latter two players is startling. It will be another year of the arms race where other clubs stockpile the best talent. I truly hope he gets top 4 as I like him and what he's trying to do more than any of the previous 3 managers.