clarkydaz
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The club is a high schol reunion
Giggs isn’t invited?The club is a high schol reunion
Didn’t know Klopp did all that in his first 2 seasons. Klopp finished 4th twice in his first two full seasons with 0 trophies.Really good on what metric? I'd say Klopp has done a really good to phenomenal job at Liverpool for example. He's won them their first title in decades along with a CL. Just wondering when people claim Ole is doing a really good job what standards we're talking about here.
Sure you OleOut lot were moaning about how much Ole has spentThey dont want the best and most progressive managers out there, because those managers will want to win trophies and will demand, transfers and staff maybe even bringing in their own coaches etc, the way the Glazers have set things up now they have a yes man in every position of the club. No drama and CL money from 4th spot every year. Thats all they want. We will be a top 4 club from now on, probably never win the league or CL ever again.
Quite.Think it’s too early. He’s not exactly going to leave us so why not wait til the end of the season? We love giving out contracts prematurely.
No harm in waiting. Loads of potential harm in giving him it now.Everyone saying “wait until the end of the season until we judge him” why don’t you take a leaf out of your own book and not call for him to be sacked every win, loss or draw. Hypocrites.
Agreed but give him that deal after the last day of the seasonThe main reason I can think of him being a long term deal is to give assurances to any new upcoming transfers chosen by Ole.
I actually agree we should wait until the end of the season, as far as I’m aware that’s what we’re going to do, he hasn’t signed anything yet. It’s basically just speculation at the moment, do you agree that people shouldn’t be calling for his head until we finish the season then?No harm in waiting. Loads of potential harm in giving him it now.
Shows the club isn't about planning but perception of progress.
Smart team waits till the season is over.
At this stage for sure just see it out then decide.I actually agree we should wait until the end of the season, as far as I’m aware that’s what we’re going to do, he hasn’t signed anything yet. It’s basically just speculation at the moment, do you agree that people shouldn’t be calling for his head until we finish the season then?
Should wrap up the deal for Haaland before season’s end thenThe main reason I can think of him being a long term deal is to give assurances to any new upcoming transfers chosen by Ole.
This. People act like even the great Jürgen Klopp came in and won everything with Liverpool on his first day, almost like he's the messiah. It took him what? 3-4 years to even challenge?Didn’t know Klopp did all that in his first 2 seasons. Klopp finished 4th twice in his first two full seasons with 0 trophies.
I said Ole’s done a really good job so far. Stabilised the club, got rid of toxic players, got rid of ageing players, improved the football, improved the feel around the club, guided us to 3rd in his first full season and is currently 2nd in his second season. Improved multiple players, signed Bruno Fernandes. Brought through and signed players for the good of the future of the club, I could go on.. Before you mention trophies, the season isn’t over yet.
We've got what? 9-10 games left of the season? Surely they have to iron out the potential wrinkles in the contract, it hasn't been announced by anyone yet, all we have is media rumours he is going to sign, what if they had a meeting saying they are content with the progress shown so far, and if everything stays the same or better until the end of season, United are willing to offer him an improved contract.Agreed but give him that deal after the last day of the season
You realize the difference between working on transfers for new players and working on the current manager's contract, right? Because your last paragraph makes no sense whatsoever.We've got what? 9-10 games left of the season? Surely they have to iron out the potential wrinkles in the contract, it hasn't been announced by anyone yet, all we have is media rumours he is going to sign, what if they had a meeting saying they are content with the progress shown so far, and if everything stays the same or better until the end of season, United are willing to offer him an improved contract.
In the transfer threads: "Why don't we work on contracts during the season, so we can sign them in the first day of the window and get a preseason?!?!"
In here: "Why are we working on contracts during the season, we want it done on last day of season and announced the day after!!!"
Lot of that isn't true though is it. Firstly, the manager has barely anything to do with moving on players, if you want someone to praise for that go look at the usual suspects for criticism - Woodward and Judge. Quality of football has barely improved at all on Mourinho's second season, and is getting worse not better. Performances and consistency have been atrocious this season, like they were for the previous season before Bruno arrived. Signed Bruno yes, but also signed AWB and Maguire, massive wastes of money on players who don't remotely fit the profile Ole should have been looking for given his tactical preferences. Made Maguire captain, another big mistake. Bottled out of every cup competition. Bottled out of the CL group stage in hugely embarrassing fashion. Currently on target to not improve on the points haul from last season.Stabilised the club, got rid of toxic players, got rid of ageing players, improved the football, improved the feel around the club, guided us to 3rd in his first full season and is currently 2nd in his second season. Improved multiple players, signed Bruno Fernandes. Brought through and signed players for the good of the future of the club, I could go on.. Before you mention trophies, the season isn’t over yet.
Wow you're really high on the Ole hate. Almost disagree with everything you've said but I imagine nothing I say will convince you, so enjoy being miserable.Lot of that isn't true though is it. Firstly, the manager has barely anything to do with moving on players, if you want someone to praise for that go look at the usual suspects for criticism - Woodward and Judge. Quality of football has barely improved at all on Mourinho's second season, and is getting worse not better. Performances and consistency have been atrocious this season, like they were for the previous season before Bruno arrived. Signed Bruno yes, but also signed AWB and Maguire, massive wastes of money on players who don't remotely fit the profile Ole should have been looking for given his tactical preferences. Made Maguire captain, another big mistake. Bottled out of every cup competition. Bottled out of the CL group stage in hugely embarrassing fashion. Currently on target to not improve on the points haul from last season.
A couple of players have improved in the last two years, like Shaw, but is that because of Ole or just because they're playing regularly and avoiding injury? Pretty fair bet it's the latter. Meanwhile, why have the players everyone expected to improve under Ole - Rashford and Martial namely - either stagnated or massively declined.
I'm still withholding judgement on him until the end of the season. But does get tedious reading how everything he's touched has turned to gold when so much of it is clearly not the case, and some of the stuff he gets the most praise for he actually has so little to do with. The only tangible improvements anyone should care about are if we stop bottling out of cup competitions, and if we show a decent improvement on the shitty 66 points haul of last season. If we can't do either then it's nothing other than failure on Ole's part and clear proof we're making no real progress at all.Wow you're really high on the Ole hate. Almost disagree with everything you've said but I imagine nothing I say will convince you, so enjoy being miserable.
Plus, realistically this is by far the biggest job he can get. If he walked this summer he wouldn't get a job at any other elite club, whatever he took would be a step down, so unless he feels that he's done with management, I really can't see him leaving until he's pushedQuite.
One of the main reasons Woodward lost respect was him giving out contracts like confetti. There's no real rush. Ole loves the club and I'm sure he would not run away and let the club down even if he won the treble as a manager.
What is it about March and Utd announcing things to do with Ole staying on after a big result, so many of us called this exact story breaking after we beat City and looks like we have been proven right again. Clearly this is the 2021 version of Paris in 2019 and yet again that toy story puppet has been caught up in the euphoria and jumped in too quickly.Tweet
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This place moans when good news is leaked after a bad result, and now we're moaning when it's leaked after a good result too? Why am I not surprised.What is it about March and Utd announcing things to do with Ole staying on after a big result, so many of us called this exact story breaking after we beat City and looks like we have been proven right again. Clearly this is the 2021 version of Paris in 2019 and yet again that toy story puppet has been caught up in the euphoria and jumped in too quickly.
Ole can't even teach his players simple pass and move tactics, we could have the best players in the world in each position and Ole would probably still have them playing the same style of awful football.Surely, there can be no other reason to do this now than planning for the summer transfer activity? If this is part of a strategy to lure Haaland over from BVB this summer, I'd be more than happy.
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OK. I think I'll not spend my Sunday interacting, thank you.Ole can't even teach his players simple pass and move tactics, we could have the best players in the world in each position and Ole would probably still have them playing the same style of awful football.
Reminds me when we rushed the situation and made him permanent. Absolutely no need to offer him anything until the end of the season with the minimum requirement top 4 plus a trophy9 fecking millions.
End of the financial tax year. I look forward to him further improving the team.What is it about March and Utd announcing things to do with Ole staying on after a big result, so many of us called this exact story breaking after we beat City and looks like we have been proven right again. Clearly this is the 2021 version of Paris in 2019 and yet again that toy story puppet has been caught up in the euphoria and jumped in too quickly.
Ah our summer strategy. What was it last year sign 3 players on deadline day, one who was on a free and had been available already for 2 months, one who is already out on loan and a third who looks promisingSurely, there can be no other reason to do this now than planning for the summer transfer activity? If this is part of a strategy to lure Haaland over from BVB this summer, I'd be more than happy.