Who's comparing? I'd like to see more punishment for thuggery.
Suarez bites | "sorry for falling into him and biting him and that"
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
You compared a leg break?
It was an isolated incident which he admitted to, he reacted after being provoked, did his time, learned his lesson, and didn't offend again (On the pitch). This is the third time that we know of for Ratboy and each time unprovoked, so completely different set of circumstances!
It is interesting but a lot of that article is not factual but rather the authors evaluation of the information he's seen.
I can't help what you assumed. I say this to my wife a lot.
a willful, malicious tackle with potentially carreer-ending consequences is far, far worse than a bite in my book but, albeit much more common.
So what did 'you only get 3 matches for a leg break' mean? They should get more?
My point that is that whatever you meant it's still not a relevant comparison as kicking is part of the game more or less. A poorly timed tackle is a kick. Biting is totally different. It's like a headbutt but scummier.
So i can hold a knife against u. But unless i make a cut im innocent?
If that is definitely what happens, then I agree it's just as bad. Both are criminal acts meant to injure.
Yes they do, often people are locked up in case reoffending is likely.
Yes. Thuggery should get much more punishment and the hysteria and talk of multi-year bans for this bite are a bit mental. He should be punished but I'd like to see the real common, nasty stuff dealt with in similar haste and with the same gravitas.
Yeah, I agree on thuggery, but I think this is just as bad. I hate the idea of being spat at or bitten, it may be symbolic more than harmful but it still sickens me. I also think that as it's his third bite and considering Rio and Cantona's bans, a year wouldn't be too mental.
Yes. I wish they'd stop doing it in porn too. When did gobbing on some birds arsehole become sexy?
That's it really, in a nutshell. Except it is a non-starter as a choice. I can't believe people contemplate the FA sending him home as a realistic option.
Step 1: try to avoid the issue or deflect blame (tabarez)
Step 2: enter denial and talk shit (Lugano)
Step 3: insane levels of denial and ludicrous statements (balbi)
Unfortunately the third chap is the most influential in Suarez' life so we are all fecked, well and truly.
BTW, the game had lots of intetesting tactical developments. Creatively it was very poor but tactically there was loads to appreciate, particularly in the value of versatile tactically-disciplined water carriers, something Tabarez has worked a lot on and was clear for all to see at the stadium (maybe not on tv). He actually tried to touch on that during the press conference and praise those players but obviously no one will ever look up, listen to or learn anything from that part of the pc.
It's difficult to prove a tackle was deliberately malicious though rather than someone accidentally making a bad tackle. Whereas a bite is clearly deliberately malicious. I mean dangerous tackles happen in a context where everyone is running around making tackles and kicking each other, whereas biting has absolutely nothing to do with football at all. A dangerous tackle is on the wrong end of the scale of things that are acceptable on a football pitch whereas biting someone isn't even on that scale.
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Think about that poor doctor that put off his own cancer treatment to work on Suarez knee, only for him to do this.
Seriously? That's beyond disgusting
Whut? This happened? It's official then, footballers have more important jobs than doctors.
media is usually not talking about tactics after matches without any controversy. Thats a pitty, but I think its more or less resonable to focus the attention primarily on other issues after this game.
Now lets just wait how FIFA is going to decide. I think the punishment has to include the clear message, that any further incident like this, has very very very harsh consequences. Only if you tell him, that his career might be over if he does that again, he might stop.
Has there been any word on how long the ban is likely to be? My gut feeling tells me it will just be 3 international game ban. I really hope I'm wrong though.
I just got an alert from ESPN saying it could be a maximum of 24 months.
No, afraid you're right though. would be a shame. BUT, Liverpool can't look the other way again.
The Sun reporting he could be banned for two years, yeah right 
So what, is he 9? Is this a playground grudge exercise? Again, the English press has become a ridiculous excuse for "I don't like this reporting that affects me, etc etc, ignore the English conspiracy!" It's nonsense. Our broadsheets are amongst the best in the world and spend the vast majority of their time pointing out our own inadequacies. I hate our gutter press as much as the next guy (I've even written a sitcom pilot about it!) but the legacy of our tabloids - who no one takes as reputable - is now being used to slander and obfuscate both genuine investigative journalists (FIFA/Blatter etc) and quite legitimate questions of on field actions (Suarez)...You said earlier [about our respective media] "They're both as bad as each other"..Well I call bullshit on that. We'd at least admit it happened. And if any didn't, the rest would pile on to correct them.
So to say "Well, what can we do?" is a bit of a nonsense to me....Erm, tell the truth? That's the purpose of news and reportage. And if National pride is a legitimate reason for not doing so, then feck me, the BNP would be proud of such rhetoric.
Your star player not receiving a justified red whilst leading by one goal against 10 men isn't a game defining moment in ANY shape or form? It may not be the single most important, no, but it could've made a shit load or difference in such a game.
I can completely understand how annoying this must be for you. A bunch of English people getting worked up at a side issue after you've qualified from the (well, at least one of 2) group of death, and in impressive comeback circumstances too, but I hope you can see why this whole thing just seems bonkers from our perspective. If Lugano and Suarez feel attacked, then from our POV we seemed to have become the a focal point of abuse for refusing to ignore thuggish behaviour from a repeat offender. The very fact this is getting twisted back on us is aggravating in itself.
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Wasn't it before they scored?
No chance of a two year ban and it would be fairly ridiculous if he did get one. That would definitely be too much.
6-9 month ban would be fair and justifiable. More than that would be too much (though very enjoyable).
Probably won't be anything like that though.
6-9 month ban would be fair and justifiable. More than that would be too much (though very enjoyable).
Probably won't be anything like that though.
It was, just a couple of minutes before Godin got a goal.
If next season this idiot see's red and chomps down on someone, and they instantly react by kicking out and caught him in the knee or something, breaking or fracturing his leg and threatening his career.......who should be punished?
By the way, would be interesting if he did it playing England and bit down of Stevie gerraaaaard. Wonder what the Liverpool supporters would say then!!
By the way, would be interesting if he did it playing England and bit down of Stevie gerraaaaard. Wonder what the Liverpool supporters would say then!!
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Moyes forgot to call off this distraction
Even looks like he's going to get a bit bitey in the Adidas ads.
His world cup is over for sure.
Brilliant stuff, you epic moron.
Brilliant stuff, you epic moron.
The maximum punishment for violent conduct is 24 months, that is what they are playing on for sensationalism. He wont get that, no one ever has.The Sun reporting he could be banned for two years, yeah right
I do think people thinking this will be just internationals are wide of the mark, this is properly bad PR for Fifa when they desperately need some feel good stuff.
If you think that then name one instance ....
In many ways it's better Uruguay went through last night. So if they get knocked out in the next game, he can add that to his guilt. Not that I suspect he feels any. If quotes from his camp are to be believed the hearing is going to be more hilarious than when Homer Simpson represented himself in court once in that Simpsons episode.
I have this nagging feeling in my gut, that nothing will happen to him FIFA will say that nothing can be proved and he will be cleared to play.
I hope I am wrong, if he gets away with it, he will do it again.
I hope I am wrong, if he gets away with it, he will do it again.
Doing his best roaring lion impression thereEven looks like he's going to get a bit bitey in the Adidas ads.
