Surprised anyone would pay to see this given how predictably bad it would be.
Film Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)
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I went to see Zombieland 2 which was fun then sneaked in and watched this in another theatre. I'm very glad that I didn't pay for it.
As a male feminist I honestly thought this was fantasic, maybe not as good as T2 but not too far off being just as good as the original. Would highly recommend going to see this.
It was awful. Screw the art of storytelling eh.
Spoons has spoken.
Avoid man. There are only 2 Terminator films the rest don't count.
I'm just not getting Gramps Terminator. Did his family know he was a killing machine or not?
I'm trying not to look at all the plot holes because it's a terminator film but this part of it was incredibly daft.
I'm trying not to look at all the plot holes because it's a terminator film but this part of it was incredibly daft.
And was the original Terminator supposed to to age?
Wasnt that bad, i guess we're just burnt out with the same over the top action movies.
Edit. Thinking back... it is that bad...
If it's covered in human skin and hair that ages then surely he needs to eat in order for that skin not to rot off.
I enjoyed T4 on the whole is that wrong? T3 is still watchable although they aren't a patch on the first two. T5 was the massively abysmal one for me.
Only interesting thing is the tech at the start of the film, with de-aging of Furlong and Hamilton. Well, interesting and a bit disturbing. Looked very, very real.
Flick is otherwise very uninteresting.
Flick is otherwise very uninteresting.
I liked T:Salvation way more.
Not only that but any damage to the skin won't heal if it's not actually alive, you'd assume there would be a lot of wear and tear. The eyes would probably dry out over time too.
All problems that could be averted by not writing a Terminator that's been around for 30 odd years into the fecking story.
I'm putting my white flag up because I only ask this out of curiosity as I haven't been paying any attention to this film but your comment caught my eye. Why is being a feminist relevant to the quality of the film?
They should of found a way to entice Cameron back properly to do it his way or convinced someone like Nolan or the chap who did the blade runner sequel (can't remember his name). Terminator ended at 2 for me unless the can do what I said at beginning of my post.
Hard to do with a messy storyline. Nolan would need to erase the connors, the arnold, and just starts fresh
If you do that then it's really just a remake of the first film. There's really nowhere for this story to go, the whole thing should have ended with the second.
Kinda hard to do with the 2020s technology. Smartphones and all that would make the whole storyline gaping with plotholes.
Take dark fate. If that's happening in real life the us armies would probably already be involved pretty soon.
Maybe remake it in the 90s or 80s... i agree with you though, this whole connor and dani shits in beyond repair
As a heterosexual privileged white male I thought this was awful.
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You really cant afford to make movies without trying to satisfies too many parties these days.
Feminist, minorities, diversities, and what else
Robots themselves soon.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro....ect-machines-from-their-creators-8097696/amp/
Stay woke.
I prefer they made it in the future.
This time travelling works in the 90s for budgeting issue and the cgi isnt actually there. Would love to see they recreate the future and tell us more.
But that's probably a different movie altogether
This time travelling works in the 90s for budgeting issue and the cgi isnt actually there. Would love to see they recreate the future and tell us more.
But that's probably a different movie altogether
Firstly its The Metro, which is as about as informative and useful as toilet roll(Even its own website has the title - News but not as you know it). Plus the article is about one individual but more importantly Transhumanism/robots being human is literally one of the corner stone of sci fi fiction. The idea that its somehow new or woke is just bizarre.
They'll just erase the timeline and find Connor's ancestry in medieval times where they won't have weapons to destroy the hi-tech terminator.
T:Salvation had a decent future setting and Bale as Connor and Yelchin as Reese was not a bad choice after all. Can't understand why would someone erase that timeline, if there could be intersting events in the future, with a script writer with any sort of creativity. These types still do exist somewhere.
I know that this is Hollywood, and anything that was a hit must be turned into a 'franchise' and milked to no end, but I think it is time to bury this one.
Same I just pretend they don’t exist.
I get the whole woman power push thing and am not at all against it, but do they have to force it so much? It just makes it seem like a gimmic and takes away from any impact or message it would send and also detracts from the film itself.
Saying that, it's nowhere near as gimmicky or detracting as shoehorning Arnie into the film despite his character making no sense and being a central part of the "story"...which also as a result made no sense.
You expect plot holes in a time travel film I guess but the story itself seemed like it wanted to have its cake and eat it. I mean if this new thing wasn't a "terminator" or Skynet machine, why did it act exactly the same as one and have exactly the same abilities and characteristics, and exactly the same mission? It's either a terminator or it isn't.
Saying that, it's nowhere near as gimmicky or detracting as shoehorning Arnie into the film despite his character making no sense and being a central part of the "story"...which also as a result made no sense.
You expect plot holes in a time travel film I guess but the story itself seemed like it wanted to have its cake and eat it. I mean if this new thing wasn't a "terminator" or Skynet machine, why did it act exactly the same as one and have exactly the same abilities and characteristics, and exactly the same mission? It's either a terminator or it isn't.
No answer to this Val? I'm intrigued too.
One of the big criticisms I've seen on Youtube and Twitter has been the usual "this is another girl power/badass women/blah blah movie." I went to see it with low expectations and found it actually pretty decent. Being a feminist isn't necessary at all to enjoy the movie obviously, I was just checking to see if anyone would bite that shared the views I've seen expressed on Twitter. Sorry x
I'm a vegan
Twitter is a law unto itself. But I don't think searching out views to get angry about is healthy.
Neither is living off grass.
Reading some of the replies here made me rethink my intial review of this movie.
Yep its still garbage.
Yep its still garbage.
It's got strong reviews and done terribly at the box office. Weird.
I stayed away from all trailers and all reviews and talk about it, so was able to go in completely open-minded.
I thought it was easily, by a very long way, the best since T2. Obviously not as good as the first two movies and it's not going to be legendary like they were, but for the first time I felt we had a movie that deserved to be considered canon. Well, I never actually watched Genisys but from what I hear that wouldn't change anything.
I thought it was easily, by a very long way, the best since T2. Obviously not as good as the first two movies and it's not going to be legendary like they were, but for the first time I felt we had a movie that deserved to be considered canon. Well, I never actually watched Genisys but from what I hear that wouldn't change anything.
One thing I've seen mentioned a bit (now that I've read reviews and comments after seeing the movie) is the 'girl power' thing. Can honestly say it never really crossed my mind while I was watching the movie. Linda Hamilton is obviously awesome. I thought Mackenzie Davis was great and I'm curious to see if she gets more action-movie roles in the future. Natalia Reyes is the weak point of the trio but she was treated that way by the other two in the movie so it worked. Towards the end of the movie when she started taking a stronger role there were moments that were a bit iffy, but overall it was fine. If their idea is to continue the movies with her in a more prominent role that could be an issue though. Not sure she has it in her (but then again who would have thought Linda Hamilton in T1 could go on to be such a badass?).
I really enjoyed the idea of the new terminator. Effectively combined both the T800 and the T1000 together, with the ability to separate and have two terminators working together when needed. I thought that was very clever. The actor playing him was obviously trying to channel a bit of Robert Patrick and he did a decent job, but obviously won't have the iconic long-term appeal.
I really enjoyed the idea of the new terminator. Effectively combined both the T800 and the T1000 together, with the ability to separate and have two terminators working together when needed. I thought that was very clever. The actor playing him was obviously trying to channel a bit of Robert Patrick and he did a decent job, but obviously won't have the iconic long-term appeal.
Tbf, this could’ve been the greatest film ever and it still wouldn’t have made much money, as they’re now trying to sell Terminator sequels to a generation that have only known bad Terminator films.
At least the other big nostalgia franchises limping into their 6th+ sequel, like the Star Wars & Jurassic films, are still making shit loads of money... somewhat justifying their ever decreasing artistic returns.... whereas the last 3 Terminator films (all completely separate sequels to the 2nd one, rather than each other!) have all performed under expectation, so it’s kind of baffling how we’ve even managed to get another of these!
Someone somewhere is just desperate to push these things through, against all commercial and critical common sense. And everyone’s finally stopped caring.
At least the other big nostalgia franchises limping into their 6th+ sequel, like the Star Wars & Jurassic films, are still making shit loads of money... somewhat justifying their ever decreasing artistic returns.... whereas the last 3 Terminator films (all completely separate sequels to the 2nd one, rather than each other!) have all performed under expectation, so it’s kind of baffling how we’ve even managed to get another of these!
Someone somewhere is just desperate to push these things through, against all commercial and critical common sense. And everyone’s finally stopped caring.
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She was enhanced. Given enough weakness to avoid miss marvel all over again. Davies made herself look the part with that body. So it plays safe on all front.
If she wasnt enhanced then yes it'll be weird
Shit. Sticks. Throw. Wall.
Even though the modern ones are trash, thanks to the internet and 'member berries, this is one of those cool 'old enough to be retro, but futuristic enough to be interesting' franchises that they can push with promise to this gen with enough manchildren, like Star Wars, still around to carry it and push to their kids. It only takes them to make money, with the hope that one will be huge again.
I'm just more shocked they've not gone full remake with the Rock.
I say reviews are probably divided.
Its fanbase is definitely experiencing genre fatigue. Genisys got absolutely destroyed by critics but its box office performance in China allowed it to recoup the budget. I think DF tried to follow the Genisys formula and mine the China market again but seems like even the Chinese are staying away from it.