But, but, but, think of all the predicted job creation losses!
The Biden Presidency
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OK, I must admit, I don't think of capitalist scare-mongering very often. I blame myself, I'm sorry.
I mean, how can you not champion one of the most thoroughly debunked economic fallacies of the past few decades?
The idiotic jobs lost claim is like arguing that the non-existent oil in the not yet completed XL Pipeline that was going to be shipped overseas anyway has contributed to the rise in gas prices in this country.
The amazing thing that every progressive intervention in the economy was supposed to ruin things ever since industrialization. I can never remember my source, but apparently this was already the narrative when they were abolishing child labour. I suppose it is actually possible to wreck the job market, but it's all so transparent what they're saying.
Progressive policies are always viewed this way, because they are wrecking something, but that something is the status quo and therefore the power base of the people currently "in power".
I just finished Heather McGhees "The Sum of Us" where she spends a lot of time discussing the mentality around some of the decisions made in American history in response to race. Really good book that constantly shows how white America would kneecap itself rather than help out the black community.
Yeah, the way any status quo is worshipped for its own sake across the world by those who've got money or power (often the same people, of course) is absolutely sickening.Progressive policies are always viewed this way, because they are wrecking something, but that something is the status quo and therefore the power base of the people currently "in power".
I just finished Heather McGhees "The Sum of Us" where she spends a lot of time discussing the mentality around some of the decisions made in American history in response to race. Really good book that constantly shows how white America would kneecap itself rather than help out the black community.
I can't wait for the inevitable stream of misinformation on how this is going to hurt the middle and working class the most.
It won't be too long before the stupid get to vote against their own best interests again. Deplorable(s)!.
It won't be too long before the stupid get to vote against their own best interests again. Deplorable(s)!.
Turkey bout to get big mad over someone else calling an event that literally led Raphael Lemkin to create the term “genocide” a genocide.
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It's been so nice recently, not having to see or hear Trump's odious offspring or this nasty raving lunatic.
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Ahh, Kim if Joe Biden brings new meaning to the
She's way more fun when she's coked up.
Watching the Biden address to congress. It's a good speech, but here's the problem. He's constantly pleading for congress to act on legislation and then goes on to praise the GOP as wanting to work on legislation.
Democrats are SOOOOOOO BAD at politics. They constantly frame the deadlock in congress as a bipartisan issue, its ALL republicans. FFS, stop giving them cover!!
Democrats are SOOOOOOO BAD at politics. They constantly frame the deadlock in congress as a bipartisan issue, its ALL republicans. FFS, stop giving them cover!!
You might enjoy this interview with Carville:
Vox.com: “Wokeness is a problem and we all know it”. https://www.vox.com/22338417/james-carville-democratic-party-biden-100-days
Watching Tim Scott response is like an alternate world of crazy.
It’s amazing how right wingers trumpet the AA unemployment rate as if Trump completely had everything to do with it.
Said it before in here, but that’s like me hitting a 300 yard drive & Trump picking up the tee & claiming success for the drive he just hit.
Said it before in here, but that’s like me hitting a 300 yard drive & Trump picking up the tee & claiming success for the drive he just hit.
The new talking point on education tonight was market tested by the GOP. Biden focusing on education access is now "controlling Americans from Kindergarten to College"
As if we needed another reminder that the full on assault on public education amped up under DeVos is part of the entire Republican plan to control the masses. The fact they convinced so many that theyre trying to do the opposite, and save people from getting proper schooling and make those who did get educated believe that somehow they've been brainwashed is truly the GOPs biggest accomplishment. If only a lot of the folks eating that up would have studied world history a bit more.
There's a reason he does this. The American people generally want both parties to work together and have started to cotton on to the fact that the GOP has just opposed everything Democrats and/or Biden have tried. By offering the olive branch of trying to be bipartisan, it appeals to the American people and has proven effective in garnering large support for most of his policies with the American public.
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The problem comes when you have Democrats like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema who misunderstand the dynamics of the moment. If they looked at public support for proposals on gun control, voting protections, tax reforms, and other major issues, they'd see support for most aspects in the 60s or 70s. Instead, they're focused on trying to operate in a way that Congress hasn't for two decades. Biden, to his credit, has realized that he can't depend on the dynamics of the Senate from the 70s, 80s, or 90s when opposition would let bills pass that they opposed rather than filibustering everything.
Whatever. I am so done with politics in this country. No one in power actually wants to fix things or make them better, they just want to accumulate power for themselves. As a species we barely deserve to be here.
American politics is about votes. Votes to get elected and the money comes after.
It doesnt matter what's good for the nation, what matters is what their voters wants to hear. You dont even have to realized it, just coin them.
If enough people believe mayonaise spread on your penises would cure cancer..they'll somehow comes up with studies to back them up.
Gun control abortion etc. I seriously doubt any politicians really cares about these values deep inside their heart
It doesnt matter what's good for the nation, what matters is what their voters wants to hear. You dont even have to realized it, just coin them.
If enough people believe mayonaise spread on your penises would cure cancer..they'll somehow comes up with studies to back them up.
Gun control abortion etc. I seriously doubt any politicians really cares about these values deep inside their heart
Why not?Why are they banning menthols
if Mayo on my penis would cure cancer I might consider it. If I had to eat Mayo I would likely just ask for a handgun.
Because cancerWhy are they banning menthols
Sorry, don’t have any sympathy for cigarette smokers.
Anything that lessens the allure of cigarettes to youngsters is a positive in my book.
Sold!
Menthols are apparently more addictive and harder to stop than normal cigarettes and disproportionately impact Black people (85% of Black smokers smoke menthols). They're also planning to ban other flavored cigars/cigarillos. All of these are highly popular with younger smokers too. A number of Black health groups have been pushing for it for a while.Why are they banning menthols
They're already banned in the EU, UK, Canada, Brazil, and a number of other countries. Other flavored cigarettes have been banned for about a decade now.
This is one slippery slope I would totally be behind. What’s the downside?
No tobacco on this earth would be a glorious thing for many reasons. This is coming from a long time cigar smoker.
I would gladly give them up in a heartbeat if it meant all tobacco is removed from the planet.
This is the same silly argument used by gun addicts. It’s never going to be a zero sum exercise. Why not help out a little?
Again, it’s going to help some not smoke, either through some addicts not finding a suitable replacement or some youngsters never using that product. It will also free up misspent healthcare funds.
It will never be a zero sum exercise. Achieving marginal, quantifiable goals is totally fine. To demand such is laughable. It’s the same insane mindset of the gun addict industry.
You can't ban guns
you can't say you love guns
let's come up with a win win solution :
mix up some words like gun controls, reducing stocks, limiting muzzle capacity etc etc, democrats gets their votes, republicans gets to keep their guns.
Same with menthols
Smoking is Ok, but let's ban menthol.
Ok.
you can't say you love guns
let's come up with a win win solution :
mix up some words like gun controls, reducing stocks, limiting muzzle capacity etc etc, democrats gets their votes, republicans gets to keep their guns.
Same with menthols
Smoking is Ok, but let's ban menthol.
Ok.
And again, it’s not zero sum. Not every addict will migrate, some will stop smoking altogether. And one clearly defined attraction for underage kids is removed from the market.
Even if this reduces existing smoking by 0.1% & reduces underage smoking by 0.1%, then it’s a win. By taking the throat suppressant away & the taste away, it will reduce current & future smoking. The amount of such is secondary.
This is exactly the obfuscation that both the tobacco lobby & the gun lobby want to have happen, getting mired down into basically semantical, zero sum debates. Any reduction in deaths caused by their products is a net positive, no matter how small the number is or what is restricted / removed to make it occur.
Any reduction of the harm caused by tobacco or guns is a net positive, no matter how small that number is.
It’s the ridiculous zero sum argument that is one of the main sticking points.
We’ll never rid the country of guns or tobacco, it’s insane to think will ever occur.
But we shouldn’t reduce the harm of both because we can never get to a gun-free or tobacco-free actuality?
Utterly bizarre way of thinking.
What does this entail, exactly?
Cement plug all gun muzzles so it's capacity to fire rounds is zero. Simples!What does this entail, exactly?
To be honest, I don't know man. There's so many regulations that are alien to me, limiting stock? banning reloader? Maybe you know more about this.What does this entail, exactly?
To be honest, principality aside. I do love guns, if money is not an object I'd love to have a john wick weapon room. I love to probably reassemble them, play around with them, taking them to range etc.
It highlights one problem of gun control, namely that the people involved with establishing it usually have limited knowledge of firearms. Here in Canada, when they originally started prohibiting some weapons in the 90s, the people involved literally looked at pictures and made the decision based on how scary the gun looked.