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I really wish people would stop sharing/retweeting his idiot ramblings.Tweet
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I really wish people would stop sharing/retweeting his idiot ramblings.Tweet
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Time - basically you can see the December/January case peak then the (numerically similar) July one. I hadn't noticed the image had lost its labels, somebody revised the colours from this version (that is labelled) to make the details stand out better, but looks like he missed off the labels in the process.Nice to see a heat map that isn’t showing how bad our wide players are defensively. It’s a bit confusing though. Is there a label missing from the x axis? Presumably it’s time?
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Agreed. Cut off his oxygen.I really wish people would stop sharing/retweeting his idiot ramblings.
i find him entertaining, but posted this not for the statement but for the hostility he's getting from his own base about vaccines.I really wish people would stop sharing/retweeting his idiot ramblings.
Yeah, this. The same people moaning about these people are those incessantly sharing their words all over social media.I really wish people would stop sharing/retweeting his idiot ramblings.
Ah. Ok. Wasn’t having a go at you. More a general moan about Twitter.i find him entertaining, but posted this not for the statement but for the hostility he's getting from his own base about vaccines.
Don't forget that you're talking about people who, each for their own reasons, have deliberately decided to ignore all the facts and the advice of the vast majority of experts and they filter everything through their personal biases.It’s mad to see the nonsense being posted about vaccines in the football forum when this gets discussed outside the current events echo chamber.
An argument that gets used a lot on there (and I’ve seen on social media elsewhere) is that it isn’t worth getting vaccinated “because we now know that vaccinated people can still transmit the virus”.
This blows my mind for two reasons: a) We always knew vaccinated people could transmit the virus because we always knew vaccines were less than 100% effective and b) Why can’t they understand that even a reduction in the rate of transmission is still beneficial?
It’s weird/fascinating to see legitimately stupid notions taking hold in a diverse range of people. Weird/fascinating/depressing.
What vaccine?if you get the first vaccine but not the second (I missed the appointment)
is it safe to just get the first again?
I'm in a weird spot where it's easy to book a first and second jab again, but struggling to get an appointment for the second jab alone
I've tried calling like 5 times they just keep saying they'll get back to me but don't
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Depressing and enraging in equal parts. It seems that stupidity has an Ro of about 150It’s mad to see the nonsense being posted about vaccines in the football forum when this gets discussed outside the current events echo chamber.
An argument that gets used a lot on there (and I’ve seen on social media elsewhere) is that it isn’t worth getting vaccinated “because we now know that vaccinated people can still transmit the virus”.
This blows my mind for two reasons: a) We always knew vaccinated people could transmit the virus because we always knew vaccines were less than 100% effective and b) Why can’t they understand that even a reduction in the rate of transmission is still beneficial?
It’s weird/fascinating to see legitimately stupid notions taking hold in a diverse range of people. Weird/fascinating/depressing.
My impression is lots of people only trust the world they can intuit. Probabilities are unintuitive and the virus is practically invisible, so this idea that you’re less likely to transmit this invisible thing just sounds like speculation. It becomes a binary thing. Either you can or you can’t transmit it. We know you can transmit it so keep all that other science talk to yourself.It’s mad to see the nonsense being posted about vaccines in the football forum when this gets discussed outside the current events echo chamber.
An argument that gets used a lot on there (and I’ve seen on social media elsewhere) is that it isn’t worth getting vaccinated “because we now know that vaccinated people can still transmit the virus”.
This blows my mind for two reasons: a) We always knew vaccinated people could transmit the virus because we always knew vaccines were less than 100% effective and b) Why can’t they understand that even a reduction in the rate of transmission is still beneficial?
It’s weird/fascinating to see legitimately stupid notions taking hold in a diverse range of people. Weird/fascinating/depressing.
Should have used some lube mate.Finally got my second dose. Quite an eventful morning after one of my car tyres got punctured on the way there.
Weirdly it hurt way more when the nurse put it in this time. First time I genuinely didn’t notice it go in. Just feels good to get it done and looking forward to growing my third arm or something.
Just had a similar conversation with a good friend who I’d argue is pretty switched on. Telling me that Pfizer is causing mutations or some rubbish.It’s mad to see the nonsense being posted about vaccines in the football forum when this gets discussed outside the current events echo chamber.
An argument that gets used a lot on there (and I’ve seen on social media elsewhere) is that it isn’t worth getting vaccinated “because we now know that vaccinated people can still transmit the virus”.
This blows my mind for two reasons: a) We always knew vaccinated people could transmit the virus because we always knew vaccines were less than 100% effective and b) Why can’t they understand that even a reduction in the rate of transmission is still beneficial?
It’s weird/fascinating to see legitimately stupid notions taking hold in a diverse range of people. Weird/fascinating/depressing.
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I don't think the issue in the US is due to the way they rolled out the vaccine, but more they've now unfortunately run out of people who want to vaccinate. Things have really stagnated over there with empty vaccine centres being reported and the percentage increase now being pretty meaningless in terms of uptake.Tweet
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Interesting way to compare US vs UK vaccination. The US “first come first served” approach has been very effective at getting younger age groups vaccinated but left out a hell of a lot of the people who need it most. This could cause huge problems.
EDIT: Image on tweet below that one is easier to interpret
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Some good points being made in those threads, in particular about the difference between numbers like 90% and 95% when it comes to vaccination.Tweet
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Interesting way to compare US vs UK vaccination. The US “first come first served” approach has been very effective at getting younger age groups vaccinated but left out a hell of a lot of the people who need it most. This could cause huge problems.
EDIT: Image on tweet below that one is easier to interpret
I think that differences in the roll-out strategy are a big factor here. In Europe we’ve used GPs to go through their lists of elderly/vulnerable patients and proactively reach out to them. Similar approach with vulnerable patients on hospital lists. The privatised system in the US doesn’t lend itself to this approach and they seem to have left much more of an onus on the individual to seek out the vaccine. Obviously I hope that changes now but it won’t be easy for them.I don't think the issue in the US is due to the way they rolled out the vaccine, but more they've now unfortunately run out of people who want to vaccinate. Things have really stagnated over there with empty vaccine centres being reported and the percentage increase now being pretty meaningless in terms of uptake.
The (as he calls it) "squished" view to take into account population sizes shows where it may end in terms of percentages if you assume those with a first jab will also get the second.
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Yeah, good point. That will definitely have an influence. I think vaccine hesitancy is low in the UK compared to the US too, but that would definitely help if the GP you trust has reached out to you.I think that differences in the roll-out strategy are a big factor here. In Europe we’ve used GPs to go through their lists of elderly/vulnerable patients and proactively reach out to them. Similar approach with vulnerable patients on hospital lists. The privatised system in the US doesn’t lend itself to this approach and they seem to have left the onus on the patient to seek the vaccine, rather than the other way round.
Pfizer. Weirdly my arm didn’t ache for days after this time, and a few people I’ve spoken to had the same experience of the second jab hurting, but then not giving a dead arm.Should have used some lube mate.
Which vaccine was it? Same experience here, 2nd shot hurt like a mofo.
Look at the demographics of Trump supporters and the like. The people have chosen not to get it because they believe the conspiracies.Tweet
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Interesting way to compare US vs UK vaccination. The US “first come first served” approach has been very effective at getting younger age groups vaccinated but left out a hell of a lot of the people who need it most. This could cause huge problems.
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Hasn’t Trump been talking up the vaccine recently? What’s the link between voting Republican and refusing a vaccine? I know that QAnon/conspiracy nutters would be difficult but assumed they’re a small minority (and found all over the world)Look at the demographics of Trump supporters and the like. The people have chosen not to get it because they believe the conspiracies.
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Gallup did a poll on this back in June.Hasn’t Trump been talking up the vaccine recently? What’s the link between voting Republican and refusing a vaccine? I know that QAnon/conspiracy nutters would be difficult but assumed they’re a small minority (and found all over the world)
Good luck! Anecdotally Moderna is the most brutal when it comes to side effects, usually they appear somewhere between 12 and 24 hours after. Just be grateful you've got arguably the best oneHad my second jab of Moderna two hours ago. So far my arm is just getting a bit stiff. Be interesting to see if I get a reaction. Most people I know seem to have felt crap for one or two days after the second jab but then those people have had Pfizer.
Glad you're ok! How did you know you got that? Did you have symptoms?I had the Astra Zeneca vaccine and had a bad reaction to it...I got something called chronic ITP where my immune system started to attack my blood platelets, which meant my blood stopped clotting properly. I guess I'm lucky as it didn't kill me but the blood clot thing got a few people.
Yeah it's called the NHS app.Had my second jab yesterday, feel like absolute crap this morning but beginning to feel a bit better now.
The nurse who was at the vaccination clinic mentioned downloading an NHS app which was where you download the 'covid passport', does anyone know anything about this as I hvaent heard anything regarding this app?
As @Solius wisely stated it is indeed the NHS App - which is not the same as the "NHS covid App".Had my second jab yesterday, feel like absolute crap this morning but beginning to feel a bit better now.
The nurse who was at the vaccination clinic mentioned downloading an NHS app which was where you download the 'covid passport', does anyone know anything about this as I hvaent heard anything regarding this app?
Sorry to hear about what happened, but good to hearthat you're on the mend. Can I ask, how long ago did you get the jab? Are you home now?Thanks Solius that's kind of you. It seems I'm on the mend now with some strong meds but I've had so many blood tests over the past months it's not funny. I got massive bruises with no apparent cause and felt completely zonked out all the time. The biggest bruise of many was about 12" round and was all black and purple. It looked like I'd been beaten up or run over.
Yeah it's called the NHS app.
Thanks both,As @Solius wisely stated it is indeed the NHS App - which is not the same as the "NHS covid App".
The NHS app needs your details - like NHS number etc. You also need to do an identity check with it - driving licence/passport image upload, and a video of yourself saying a code number. If you pass the ID thing (it gets checked by a human so can take a few hours to approve) the app can get at your vaccination records and then you can "get your covid pass".
You'll see two versions of the pass, for events in England, one for travel. You can also print out a paper version from there.
Download the NHS app. Register with your details and your gp number. The domestic covid pass will appear 2 weeks after your second dose, the travel pass appears immediately after the second dose.Had my second jab yesterday, feel like absolute crap this morning but beginning to feel a bit better now.
The nurse who was at the vaccination clinic mentioned downloading an NHS app which was where you download the 'covid passport', does anyone know anything about this as I hvaent heard anything regarding this app?