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So basically everything since his first bankruptcy in the 80s is thanks to the KGB/FSB.
Money laundering started in the 80s. Hooker kompromat as well.

Strong chance Mueller is sitting on a lot of this info, in which case this entire thing could be far more diabolical than previously thought.
 

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Money laundering started in the 80s. Hooker kompromat as well.

Strong chance Mueller is sitting on a lot of this info, in which case this entire thing could be far more diabolical than previously thought.
More than a strong chance...as Rocah says here it's "unimaginable" that Mueller and his team didn't already have full knowledge of everything that's in the book and more.

Mueller's team have decades of financial crime to unravel.
 

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John Brennan in the Huffington Post:

“The only questions that remain are whether the collusion that took place constituted criminally liable conspiracy, whether obstruction of justice occurred to cover up any collusion or conspiracy, and how many members of ‘Trump Incorporated’ attempted to defraud the government by laundering and concealing the movement of money into their pockets,” Brennan wrote.
 

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Money laundering started in the 80s. Hooker kompromat as well.

Strong chance Mueller is sitting on a lot of this info, in which case this entire thing could be far more diabolical than previously thought.
It is. Always maintained this is more than election meddling. This is one big Money laundering scandal that will take down a lot of politicians if we get to the bottom of it.
 

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Isn't Papadopoulos corporations with the FBI? Sounds like he's broke.
 

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Been thinking, what happens if Mueller doesn't find much in the way of collusion but finds evidence that Trump has been compromised (laundering money)?
 

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Been thinking, what happens if Mueller doesn't find much in the way of collusion but finds evidence that Trump has been compromised (laundering money)?
Ultimately, everything is on the table. The original inquiry could've been primarily about collusion, but obstruction of justice, financial crimes, perjury, conspiracy are all fair game.
 

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Is there not a code of conduct rule that he can be charged with breaking (several thousand times)? Seriously, I'd charge him for his disgraceful conduct even during his candidate phase...
 
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Can't be basically look for anything and everything he wants at this point?
As long as its related to the original line of inquiry, the answer is yes.

The memo that Rosenstein wrote to Mueller in May of 2017 suggests:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.
(i) - addresses the original line of inquiry which is collusion/conspiracy

(ii) - gives Mueller the legal latitude to pursue things he stumbles across while investigating (i)

(iii) - gives Mueller even more legal latitude to investigate other federal crimes that are uncovered

So all things said, Mueller's authority is pretty broad.
 

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Money laundering started in the 80s. Hooker kompromat as well.

Strong chance Mueller is sitting on a lot of this info, in which case this entire thing could be far more diabolical than previously thought.
Yeah, yeah, that was around the time of his first famous bankruptcy wasn't it? I think I was about 12 years old then but it was along time ago.
 

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They are apparently going to finish up tomorrow.

Yeh but these questions are concerning. Like asking what does reasonable doubt mean and asking if they can review evidence. Sounds like a magahat punk is holding shit up
 

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Yeh but these questions are concerning. Like asking what does reasonable doubt mean and asking if they can review evidence. Sounds like a magahat punk is holding shit up
Manafort has another trial coming up in a few weeks so they will nail him one way or another.
 

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Yeah, yeah, that was around the time of his first famous bankruptcy wasn't it? I think I was about 12 years old then but it was along time ago.
Yep...I believe his first bankruptcy was around then (late 80s / early 90s)
 

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Manafort has another trial coming up in a few weeks so they will nail him one way or another.
well they were supposed to "nail" him with this one as well :lol:. It's as clear cut as you could possibly ask for
 

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Yeh but these questions are concerning. Like asking what does reasonable doubt mean and asking if they can review evidence. Sounds like a magahat punk is holding shit up
I was on a jury where basic questions were asked in a slam dunk murder trial. You get people who are confused by simple concepts. It's infuriating.
 

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So I'm sure it's been brought up before but in a high profile case like this with likely much greater impact on other possible cases the prosecution might bring - how do we know the jurors aren't getting some extreme pressures from the dark corners of society? I know that sounds a bit Tom Clancy like but given all the madness it might be one of the least surprising things to me.
 

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Big day ahead in the Manafort trial. May see the jury give their verdict in the coming hours.
 

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I do wonder when the US will become so polarized that unanimous jury decisions in cases like these will be impossible.

With the GOP so desperate to remove objective facts from their reality, I don't know how the jury system can function.
 
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I was on a jury where basic questions were asked in a slam dunk murder trial. You get people who are confused by simple concepts. It's infuriating.
There should be a basic intelligence test before people are allowed to serve on juries. It's ridiculous entrusting people's lives to potentially 12 fecking morons.