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One thing is sure. He is way ahead of Maguire in the pecking order. He is call the Iceman for a reason
100% flawless all the time? Never heard such guffI'm definitely not a fan of Maguire and have always thought he was an extremely overrated player. Had he not been English, he would have been considerably cheaper when he was bought. A average player from England cost many times more than a non-British player. Having said that, I just want to point out that in many cases it is pure bullying against Maguire. Lindelöf has probably maintained the highest class in the back line this season, but it is the same against him in many cases. Personally, I think Lindelöf has been stable with some less good interventions but who is 100% flawless all the time? I think Lindelöf has shown that he holds Man Utd's class as the team in truth has not performed since Sir Alex's time.
Pretty sure he's just saying that nobody is 100% flawless all the time and he is a stable player.100% flawless all the time? Never heard such guff
He was absolutely shite pre Maguire in fairness. Only as a bit part player this season has he ever played this well for us.How much has his career and reputation suffered by playing next to Maguire? Looks a totally different player next to a proper partner.
I think OGS and general chaos hurt him more than Maguire. You'd expect a central defender to start getting really good at 25-26 (If I recall this is when rio and vidic started to start kicking on) He moved at 22 under Mourinho, had 12 months under him and then it was all chaos.He was absolutely shite pre Maguire in fairness. Only as a bit part player this season has he ever played this well for us.
Not sure that’s entirely true - I remember Lindelof being quite good in his second season, the one where Ole took over for Mourinho.He was absolutely shite pre Maguire in fairness. Only as a bit part player this season has he ever played this well for us.
Never been a fan of Lindelof before we signed him let alone his career here. I disagree he has been stable either.He was absolutely shite pre Maguire in fairness. Only as a bit part player this season has he ever played this well for us.
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That’s nonsense. He’s generally been very good alongside Martinez every time they played this season.Never been a fan of Lindelof before we signed him let alone his career here. I disagree he has been stable either.
What I take from the recent performances is he seems to look much better than any other partner he has played alongside, they look a decent partnership.
Baybe it is just coincidence tying in with good form but he has been very poor pre Maguire as you mention, poor with Maguire, Varane and Martinez.
Do his recent performances justify keeping him if he is only good next to Shaw?
I think unless he requests a move for fear of lack of plaing time he stays, personally that is only as Maguire, Bailly, Jones and Tuanzabe simply have to go and that only leaves us with two centre backs if you exclude Shaw who will revert to left back again. He stays by default of the dross around him in the squad
Of late maybe but earlier in the year definitely not. He was out of all sorts in the Europa League games against very low level/poor opposition and then in his first real proper test against Villa game at their ground, he got done by a simple Watkins turn on the half way line, which lead to the first goal and then allowed him all the time in the world on the left channel to make an assist in the second half; it's almost the exact same scenario that happened today just before his excellent off the line clearance.That’s nonsense. He’s generally been very good alongside Martinez every time they played this season.
TBH not sure about Varane but he has been poor to average the whole time he has been here bar the odd game. I dont get the reliabel or steady comments on Lindelof.That’s nonsense. He’s generally been very good alongside Martinez every time they played this season.
Has been paired up with Varane at all? I don’t think he has.
Nobody said that.In the space of a few games, 1) apparently his previous 200+ don't count 2) it's Maguire's fault he's played so passively and poor before and now 3) he's a better passer than Martinez.
If you keep creating fictional praise for him, that’s definitely possible.Somebody next is going to tell us that Lindelof has always been a defensive beast with amazing passing skills. He just couldn't show it for 200+ games consistently because of some other totally explainable reasons
See below and the previous page for the follow up posts. Pretty much sums up some of the hyperbole and reimagining of his time here. All after 5 games.Nobody said that.
If you keep creating fictional praise for him, that’s definitely possible.
If he played in a time that where better on the ball I would not be surprised to see him start over Varane. Probably our best defender on the ball. So composed.
Good post.Defense is probably the most difficult position to judge in the modern game. They're extremely reliant on the system because most coaches nowadays play a very proactive system that exposes them one on one with full backs providing significantly less help to their CBs than they did 10 years ago. It's why someone like Van Dijk can look like the world's best and then shaky for Holland or Liverpool this season when the press and organisation around him is not the same. Or why Akanji and Aké can be relatively average but then be part of a potentially treble winning side. Romero can be a WC winner and still be part of the most hilarious defensive unit in the league.
I am generally anti making too many changes to personel unless necessary and because I think with Maguire, it's just almost untenable now, I feel Lindelöf should have a place in the squad. He is reliable as a backup and if we sign another young defender, him, Varane and Martinez should make as stable defensive personel as there is in the league.
Finished runner-up in voting for player of the year 2018/19, behind Luke Shaw. Pogba in third.He was absolutely shite pre Maguire in fairness. Only as a bit part player this season has he ever played this well for us.
We def can’t sell him. He’s our best looking playerHe's been good and was excellent today. He'll be retained.
We have been lacking in that department especially after Andreas left.We def can’t sell him. He’s our best looking player
I remember him being good at the back end of that season and thought he had adjusted to the pace of the game but he went backwards after that.Finished runner-up in voting for player of the year 2018/19, behind Luke Shaw. Pogba in third.
But yeah, sure; "absolutely shite pre Maguire in fairness."
Five games? Lindelof has his faults. And I’m sure we will see them again in the run in. But his passing of the ball has always been really good.See below and the previous page for the follow up posts. Pretty much sums up some of the hyperbole and reimagining of his time here. All after 5 games.
Statistically his aerials are quite good this season.I always think he’s a good player. Just that his heading needs improvement. How is his heading these days? Any stats?
Aerials won | Success Rate | |
Maguire | 2.7 | 52% |
Lindelof | 2.4 | 73% |
Varane | 2.0 | 77% |
Shaw | 1.6 | 59% |
Martinez | 1.4 | 52% |
This is from all minutes, also in other positions than CB. |
feck me we finished 6th and got a manager sacked mid season it was one of those seasons you wished we didn’t have to give an award to anyone.Finished runner-up in voting for player of the year 2018/19, behind Luke Shaw. Pogba in third.
But yeah, sure; "absolutely shite pre Maguire in fairness."
Why are you doubling down? You’ve just been given objective evidence that what you said was wrong. All you need to did say “fair enough, my bad, he was obviously decent in at least one season before Maguire joined”feck me we finished 6th and got a manager sacked mid season it was one of those seasons you wished we didn’t have to give an award to anyone.
He’d been shite since his arrival but was one of the less shite players in the latter end of that shite season. And then he went downhill again.
So yeah, all in all since his arrival he’s been pretty ”shite” and if the best retort you’ve got is that a couple of teammates voted him in a dogshit season, that probably tells it’s own story.
Do you even know how many votes he got? I mean, maybe 3 close mates voted for him and 2 for Pogba with everyone else unanimously voting for Shaw.
Either way, he absolutely was shite pre Maguire, and post Maguire.
Like Maguire, he’s had periods of good form mind, most players who get to this level do, just look at Fred.
I don’t think he’s ever played this well though, so either something about our set-up is working much better for him, he’s coming into his prime, or, he suits being a bit part player.
Fair point. That season the whole team was performing really bad. Lindelöf did put in some solid performances though which put him as one of the best performing players of the team for that season.feck me we finished 6th and got a manager sacked mid season it was one of those seasons you wished we didn’t have to give an award to anyone.
He’d been shite since his arrival but was one of the less shite players in the latter end of that shite season. And then he went downhill again.
So yeah, all in all since his arrival he’s been pretty ”shite” and if the best retort you’ve got is that a couple of teammates voted him in a dogshit season, that probably tells it’s own story.
Do you even know how many votes he got? I mean, maybe 3 close mates voted for him and 2 for Pogba with everyone else unanimously voting for Shaw.
Either way, he absolutely was shite pre Maguire, and post Maguire.
Like Maguire, he’s had periods of good form mind, most players who get to this level do, just look at Fred.
I don’t think he’s ever played this well though, so either something about our set-up is working much better for him, he’s coming into his prime, or, he suits being a bit part player.