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So weak, no aggression, no tenacity, and ball watching. I am ashamed to see him playing as our centre back. Quick going to Timber's thread.
Looks like Watkins had a nice shoulder massage there from all of Lindelof's soft hand touches aka 'defending'.I think ten Hag will realise quickly because in his role it's important to be decisive when it comes to making decisions and the below is one of many examples where Lindelof has been found wanting. Cleaning up the mistakes of his predecessors should be a priority imo.
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When Lindelof goes chasing like that, is that something ETH wants or does he want him to stay? There are still four United players between the ball and the goal and it shouldn’t be a high risk.Tweet
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I think it fits his passive defending style. He keeps it cool, even when the opponent scores a goal.Still hilarious his nickname was the Iceman. Has a man ever had a less suitable nickname, ever?
So cool he freezes.I think it fits his passive defending style. He keeps it cool, even when the opponent scores a goal.
When the heat is on he turns to a puddle of waterStill hilarious his nickname was the Iceman. Has a man ever had a less suitable nickname, ever?
I used to think it was a positive name, but now I realise it's just because when defending he's frozen stiff like a deer in the headlights.Still hilarious his nickname was the Iceman. Has a man ever had a less suitable nickname, ever?
Even though Lindelof isn't putting in a challenge and moving way out of position, I think Casemiro needs to be plugging the gap that he's left. He's ball watching and isn't aware of the danger until Ramsey has the ball. By that point, it's too late. Eriksen is also marking nobody. He should be on Ramsey. Lindelof is bad, but the midfield isn't doing its job, either.I think ten Hag will realise quickly because in his role it's important to be decisive when it comes to making decisions and the below is one of many examples where Lindelof has been found wanting. Cleaning up the mistakes of his predecessors should be a priority imo.
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I can't believe Mourinho signed Lindelof. He's pretty much the exact opposite type of CB I'd expect him to sign.It was José Mourinho who had Edward Woodward, the Master of Old Trafford, sign The Iceman. Not one of the finest days for either José or Eddie. Lindelof is a decent fourth option, but if Maguire was fit today why does Victor get the start over Harry?
I have no idea why he was given that nickname. He's soft as shit.Still hilarious his nickname was the Iceman. Has a man ever had a less suitable nickname, ever?
He did what exactly? all he did was just alongside Watkins waiting for him to decide what to do.In fairness, for the third goal he got the player well out of position.
Not his fault the others were ballwatching.
It’s apt. He’s frozen whenever somebody runs at him.Still hilarious his nickname was the Iceman. Has a man ever had a less suitable nickname, ever?
To be fair, so is ice when it melts.I have no idea why he was given that nickname. He's soft as shit.
It's Dalot that is completely off position, preparing to attack, in the first goal and he's the one not tracking back in the third goal.He didn’t defend well for those two goals, but his team mates’ positions are not optimal either.
First goal. Should it really be a risk for a CB to leave his position when there are five United players between the ball and goal? We want our CBs to push high. Nobody wins every duel. Varane has a success rate of 56% in ground duels and Martinez 62%, which means we will be overplayed, but other players must cover for that. Looking at the photo, this is not a high risk push.
Third goal. Lindelof could/should have attacked but with the risk of being dribbled. With one more defender behind him he should have maybe taken that risk. However the positions of his team mates are far from optimal. Everybody in the same small space. There are no Villa players in this space, instead three Villa players totally unmarked in the box. Can’t say that’s great defending either.
I don't think anybody hates Lindelof more than youSooner we sell the sooner we don’t have to have these mundane conversations anymore
Which makes me sadI don't think anybody hates Lindelof more than you
he’s called the ice man because he’s too cool to actually defend.Even though Lindelof isn't putting in a challenge and moving way out of position, I think Casemiro needs to be plugging the gap that he's left. He's ball watching and isn't aware of the danger until Ramsey has the ball. By that point, it's too late. Eriksen is also marking nobody. He should be on Ramsey. Lindelof is bad, but the midfield isn't doing its job, either.
I can't believe Mourinho signed Lindelof. He's pretty much the exact opposite type of CB I'd expect him to sign.
I don't know for sure, but ETH might prefer a less aggressive CB to play next to Martinez. I don't think Maguire and Martinez complement each other very well. They both defend very aggressively. Varane and Martinez is a much better partnership. Martinez is more aggressive and Varane will sit off and clean up. Varane will contest a 1v1, though.
Lindelof is way too scared to make a tackle. He constantly backs off and tries to buy time to get help from a teammate. He can't defend 1v1 to save his life. Trying to play a high line and expecting him to deal with transitions is basically asking to lose. He doesn't work and will need to be upgraded upon.
I have no idea why he was given that nickname. He's soft as shit.
I just popped into the thread to see if people are still defending this useless excuse of a pathetic cowardly player.Which makes me sad
This is all your fault pal. Before you came along we were all having a really pleasant time in this thread. Nothing but sunshine and rainbowsSooner we sell the sooner we don’t have to have these mundane conversations anymore
Common misconception, it was never "iceman." It has always been "nice-man," because he defends nicely and asks the opposition if it's OK to tackle them before he sticks a leg in.I think it fits his passive defending style. He keeps it cool, even when the opponent scores a goal.
I am with you. Pathetic defender.Which makes me sad
It’s joes fault for buying himThis is all your fault pal. Before you came along we were all having a really pleasant time in this thread. Nothing but sunshine and rainbows
You're like a conductor directing lemmings off a cliff and they're exploding before impact
I dont think we can sell anyone, not because we are shite at selling but because of our threadbare squad.Sooner we sell the sooner we don’t have to have these mundane conversations anymore
Yeah I realise we’re stuck with him until at least the summer but I hope we are lining up a young fella with better basics to work withI dont think we can sell anyone, not because we are shite at selling but because of our threadbare squad.
ETH wants him to be aggressive but unfortunately, he is too weak and too soft. He couldn't even take his man down by making tactical foul, actually I wouldn't be surprised that Lindelof did try to take his man down but it has no effect on Watkins because he's that weak and soft. That clip is the most aggressive Lindelof could ever get.When Lindelof goes chasing like that, is that something ETH wants or does he want him to stay? There are still four United players between the ball and the goal and it shouldn’t be a high risk.
At 26:10 there was another situation where Martinez pushed equally high and got overplayed, but Casemiro covered and Lindelof cleared it.
Obviously it’s not the intention to be overplayed, as in those two examples, but surely it’s per ETH’s instructions to push high with the CBs? That means these things will happen more or less every game and other players need to cover for that.
Lindelof's defenders are already saying 'playing with a high line means we will get caught out, so it will happen again' completely deflecting the fact that it doesn't need to happen, if the player in question actually does his job. The mental gymnastics isETH wants him to be aggressive but unfortunately, he is too weak and too soft. He couldn't even take his man down by making tactical foul, actually I wouldn't be surprised that Lindelof did try to take his man down but it has no effect on Watkins because he's that weak and soft. That clip is the most aggressive Lindelof could ever get.
So contrast when I watched Timber and Lisandro at Ajax under ten Hag, they both have aggression in them and intention to kill forwards. Just like Rio and Vidic. Well, that's what centre back meant to be.