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Gawd.
hadn't seen this version
Its a awful thing to say but honestly if the government made next Monday a bank holiday and called it 'Independence Day'. I'm confident that mostly hardened Brexit people would believe it.
Better version here.
Do you remember those charming "football fans" (democratic football lads alliance? I think) attacking the police and trying to attack remain marches a few weeks ago...Most of no deal brexit people are really old, right ? The whole rioting stuff never seem to account for the fact that the ones rioting will be someone old granny. Hardly scary stuff.
I wouldn't put it past Dom to have been leaking those theories to encourage a loony brexiteer to do it to be honest.Indeed... Just in time to whip up riots whilst parliament is prorouged and Johnson is forced to declare a state of emergency keeping parliament closed... He will probably be so busy dealing with the riots against vermin remoaners that he can't find time to write a letter asking for an extension...
Genuinely wouldn't put it past him
He is going to run for Mayor of LondonRory Stewart resigns: Former Tory leadership contender announces he will stand down at next election
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...vative-mp-penrith-border-latest-a9142631.html
Strikes me as a good candidate for Tory Londoners, strong on Remain and relatively centrist. Not sure he's very likely to win outright though.He is going to run for Mayor of London
Perhaps - but as an independent i think he will (probably) just split the centre right vote and should make sadiq kahn even more likely to win a second termStrikes me as a good candidate for Tory Londoners, strong on Remain and relatively centrist. Not sure he's very likely to win outright though.
The bloke who wanted to bring back May's deal to vote for it (again) and doesn't want a second referendum?Strikes me as a good candidate for Tory Londoners, strong on Remain and relatively centrist. Not sure he's very likely to win outright though.
Its amazing people think Stewart is a Remain person and really proves that Remain is nothing more than some cultural signifiers.The bloke who wanted to bring back May's deal to vote for it (again) and doesn't want a second referendum?
Its amazing people think Stewart is a Remain person and really proves that Remain is nothing more than some cultural signifiers.
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For once we agreeI'm not sure why Khan wouldn't get in again? He's pretty popular and has done little wrong. A marvelous Mayor for a modern multicultural metropolis. Can't see why Stewart would succeed here although I'm sure he'll have some heavy financial backing.
I might be wrong but thats not possible is it?I think Khan himself is waiting for Corbyn to go, at which point he’ll make a leadership bid for Labour Party.
Maybe. Is that how BJ did it? Can’t remember.I might be wrong but thats not possible is it?
I thought the leader had to be a member of the plp (I.e. a current MP)
So unless Kahn is going to stand down as mayor and stand in the coming election the best he could do is consider a run at the leadership to replace whoever follows corbyn
I like Khan and think he's well suited to the capital. Interesting suggestion about him being a future Labour leader. Again, I think he'd be very good.For once we agree
As someone born, lived a lot of my life and knows loads of people from London, most are very proud of Khan’s position on BrExit, Trump, status of London, and many other things. He represents us far more than Cameron, May or BJ could ever came close to.
We also recognise that the scourge of knife crime has very little to do with him: that’s due to ever increasing drugs consumption and gang related violence, austerity impact on police numbers and resourcing. Would be interested on your view on that given your superior knowledge.
Lastly, as you say Londoners are very happy and proud of our genuine multicultural lifestyle: makes this city so brilliant to live in. Last thing we’d want is a traditional Tory espousing rule Brittainia. Any ‘Khan-istan’ noise only comes from non London racist trolls like Hopkins and Yaxley-Lennon.
I think Khan himself is waiting for Corbyn to go, at which point he’ll make a leadership bid for Labour Party.
When I first saw it I thought what the feck are Islamic Ray Cams?
Yes... He became an MP again firstMaybe. Is that how BJ did it? Can’t remember.
This sounds very similar to what the tories have done to schools. It's shocking how many lessons are being taught by teacher assistants. Experienced teachers are being bullied out of their roles because schools simply can't afford to pay them, having instead to hire cheaper newly qualified teachers. Many of whom have very little classroom experience.I like Khan and think he's well suited to the capital. Interesting suggestion about him being a future Labour leader. Again, I think he'd be very good.
With regards to the police service, austerity and government funding I could talk all night about it from my perspective. You're right; it's nothing to do with Khan himself and from what I can gather he's been very supportive of the Met which is positive.
Essentially the service is struggling due to decisions made when May was the home secretary. Freezing recruitment and allowing police numbers to dwindle through natural wastage was a very short sighted and costly decision. Now the Tory's want to increase police numbers yet the infrastructure and experience is no longer in place within the service, simply saying you'll increase numbers is great but you have to have the means to make it happen. It takes two years for an officer to pass their probationary period and be no longer deemed a student officer. You can't just create experience, hence why you always need a steady supply of recruits to continually allow the service to develop in the long run. In addition cuts on the front line have impacted throughout. Lower numbers of specialist resources and a national shortage of detectives severely impact on detection rates of violent and serious crime. The government response? Fast track. Fast track detectives, fast track Superintendents.. people with zero policing experience taking roles within the service others have worked towards for years. Further damaging morale in attempts to make up for the massive neglect of the service and the realisation we are literally at crisis point.
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From the article it's self... So pretty standard stuff but new data laws mean people can request the data.This kind of scoring system is commonly used by political parties in the UK and the US, but new data transparency laws which allow anyone to ask for their data give an unprecedented glimpse into how a major party operates.
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Ellman and Hodge?I think most would fall into line, except maybe Hoey.
Even MPs from leave constituencies like Nandy have spoken out against no deal so I don't see why they wouldn't.
Possibly, I can't imagine remain MPs risking a no deal exit though, it's electoral suicide no matter what else happens regarding deselect ion.Ellman and Hodge?
2 jewis MP's both facing motions from their local party on the eve of Yom Kippur
Depending how that plays out I can see both of those abstaining or even crossing over to a non antisemitic party
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10055823/dame-louise-ellman-vote-of-no-confidence/
Are local parties only allowed to get rid of non-jewish candidates now?Ellman and Hodge?
2 jewis MP's both facing motions from their local party on the eve of Yom Kippur
Depending how that plays out I can see both of those abstaining or even crossing over to a non antisemitic party
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10055823/dame-louise-ellman-vote-of-no-confidence/
so coincidentally they scheduled 2 actions against jewish MP's on the Eve of Yom Kipur so that the Mp's cant go to defend themselves... yeah that sounds totally normal rightAre local parties only allowed to get rid of non-jewish candidates now?
I've already given you the numbers of actual anti-semtisim in the party and yet you insist on throwing around anti-semtism like some childish insult because you don't like Corbyn. Its pathetic stuff.
Yeah arranging it for that date was totally ridiculous. Even if they hadn't realized the significance the moment they found out it should have been immediately changed with fulsome apologies.so coincidentally they scheduled 2 actions against jewish MP's on the Eve of Yom Kipur so that the Mp's cant go to defend themselves... yeah that sounds totally normal right
I mean what are the odds ?
picking 2 jewish MP's out of 244 Mps
then picking the eve of yom kipur... twice
probably something like
(1/244)*(1/243)*(1/365)*(1/365)
or one in 7 billion 8 hundred and nintey nine million one hundred and seventy six thousand seven hundred
I mean 100% the sort of thing that the EHRC are giing to look at and think yeah this is a perty totally welcoming to jews
either that or it wasnt a coincidence at all and infact it was something much more deep routed and deliberate - and the fact that both are arranged for that date - and no rescheduling / apologies have taken place does seem to suggest that it wasn't a coincidenceYeah arranging it for that date was totally ridiculous. Even if they hadn't realized the significance the moment they found out it should have been immediately changed with fulsome apologies.
If it wasn't a coincidence the feckers need to be burned to the ground for it.either that or it wasnt a coincidence at all and infact it was something much more deep routed and deliberate - and the fact that both are arranged for that date - and no rescheduling / apologies have taken place does seem to suggest that it wasn't a coincidence
Do the EHRC not like Corbyn? They saw enough to warrant a formal investigation into the party. You and other disciples of Corbyn continuing to dismiss the issue of antisemitism within the party is what is pathetic. What does the man have to do for some people to realise he is a cancer to the Labour Party?Are local parties only allowed to get rid of non-jewish candidates now?
I've already given you the numbers of actual anti-semtisim in the party and yet you insist on throwing around anti-semtism like some childish insult because you don't like Corbyn. Its pathetic stuff.
I don't think it's normal for MPs to actually turn up to these to be fair. They're also not the only ones who are being challenged given it's GE time.so coincidentally they scheduled 2 actions against jewish MP's on the Eve of Yom Kipur so that the Mp's cant go to defend themselves... yeah that sounds totally normal right
I mean what are the odds ?
picking 2 jewish MP's out of 244 Mps
then picking the eve of yom kipur... twice
probably something like
(1/244)*(1/243)*(1/365)*(1/365)
or one in 7 billion 8 hundred and nintey nine million one hundred and seventy six thousand seven hundred
I mean 100% the sort of thing that the EHRC are giing to look at and think yeah this is a perty totally welcoming to jews
Oh put your panties back in place.Do the EHRC not like Corbyn? They saw enough to warrant a formal investigation into the party. You and other disciples of Corbyn continuing to dismiss the issue of antisemitism within the party is what is pathetic. What does the man have to do for some people to realise he is a cancer to the Labour Party?
Based on no evidence whatsoever @esmufc07 thought(And still goes I guess ?)that members wanted to get rid of Hodge because she is jewish. It turns they just wanted a local candidate instead(Pretty sure Hodge will win re selection).Oh put your panties back in place.
A reasoned discussion of the issues at hand within the party is fine but you and less so Sun Tzu are far less interested in that than just throwing insults around.
The disciplinary process was inadequate prior to Corbyn and this was heightened with the influx of hard left into momentum. Yet it's still 0.1% so you can stick claims of institutionalised anti-semtisim where the sun don't shine.
I image it doesn't all. AlsoI've no idea about Ellman i can't place the name but Hodge is a secular jew so why this prohibits her from attending I've no idea.
But something something - insert ironic anti Semitic joke - because lolz.....In 1987 the West London Synagogue approached Islington Council with a startling proposal: to sell its original cemetery to property developers, destroying the gravestones and digging-up and reburying the bodies lying under them. This cemetery (dating from 1840) was not merely of great historic and architectural interest – in the view of orthodox Jews, the deliberate destruction of a cemetery is sacrilegious. So when Islington Council granted the planning application, a Jewish-led and ultimately successful campaign was launched to have the decision reversed. I was part of that campaign. So was Jeremy Corbyn. Meanwhile, the then-leader of Islington Council (1982-92), whose decision to permit the destruction of the cemetery was eventually overturned, was none other than Margaret Hodge (though it is unclear whether she personally was in favour of the proposal)
It isn't throwing insults, it is stating fact. I get angry because at my heart I'm a Labour supporter and I believe in the policies that Labour Government's generally promote, and I identify with Labour far more than any other political party. But I feel lost at the moment and unable to vote for the Party because of what it has become under Corbyn. It is no longer a credible political party, never mind a credible opposition. We have had 2 of the worst Tory Government's in modern history and Labour cannot even get close. There is a reason for that. The sooner the likes of you realise you need the support of the people who are turning away from Labour the better.Oh put your panties back in place.
A reasoned discussion of the issues at hand within the party is fine but you and less so Sun Tzu are far less interested in that than just throwing insults around.
The disciplinary process was inadequate prior to Corbyn and this was heightened with the influx of hard left into momentum. Yet it's still 0.1% so you can stick claims of institutionalised anti-semtisim where the sun don't shine.
Why do you think the rules were changed last year to make it easier to trigger reselection? Do you think it was out of some democratic principle, or do you think it was so 'activists' could begin to remove those candidates who don't align with the leaders views?Based on no evidence whatsoever @esmufc07 thought(And still goes I guess ?)that members wanted to get rid of Hodge because she is jewish. It turns they just want a local candidate instead.
Er what ? You do know the rule change last year was a compromise by the leader office, NEC, members and unions. The reason we didn't get open primaries was because the union leaders were worried about losing influencing in the party. Its been a long view of the labour left for many years to have a member lead/democratic labour party with open primaries(The americans have open primaries for feck sake). If you can't democratise your own party, how the hell are you doing to democratise the British economy.Why do you think the rules were changed last year to make it easier to trigger reselection? Do you think it was out of some democratic principle, or do you think it was so 'activists' could begin to remove those candidates who don't align with the leaders views?
And the MPs who have been removed by I guess Corbyn style androids are ? Most standing MPs who have faced re selection have won. The example we are talking about has nothing to do with Corbyn but members wanting a local candidate.or do you think it was so 'activists' could begin to remove those candidates who don't align with the leaders views?