You’re boring.
You enjoy being governed by a ruling class
You voted for terrible humans
You’re probably a garbage person.
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You enjoy being governed by a ruling class
You voted for terrible humans
You’re probably a garbage person.
I can't help thinking about John Profumo, Steve. He resigned for lying to the House - but of course, went on to have a very honourable life and worked for charity as a volunteer for the rest of his days. Compared to this whining muppet, we've gone a million miles backwards as far as political integrity is concerned.
He definitely stated that he did not stop on the way to Durham.
Anyway. If he did stop for fuel on the way back, he should have used his card.
So that can be easily checked.
But that is a slideshow.
Was his London home a target. There must be evidence of this.
Why did a senior government official not have emergency child care support in a city the size of London.
Why did he have to drive 30 miles with his son to 'test his eyesight'.
Come on. He had weeks to come up with a better story than that.
What if they replied that their eyes were fecked and they just wanted to test if it was too hot?
If Cummings was part of the US government he'd be sacked, though. Or at the very least they'd have clarified they didn't think he was doing anything wrong at the time he did it.
Stupdity is one thing but stupidity with a complete lack of any integrity is quite something else. Trump comes out and tells the world he's a clown. Our lot dress as responsible adults and then only reveal they're clowns once people have followed their advice and thrown themselves off the cliff.
Not sure about that, you had guys like Cyril Smith who was a paedophile and serial rapist who did things like lying to parliament to cover up the dangers of asbestos at the world‘s biggest asbestos factory in Rochdale.
I‘d argue they were a lot worse then in many regards because they could get away with nefarious deeds more easily.
I'd section them.
Lockdown breach: the questions Dominic Cummings still has yet to clear up
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-press-conference-leaves-questions-unanswered
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-press-conference-leaves-questions-unanswered
Garbage person
let’s just remember the choice we had when we last voted, the alternative being a Corbyn led government.
Somewhat brush to call everyone who voted for the largest party a garbage person (whatever that may be!).
I think it weird that he could not be sure if he stopped for fuel, why lie about it?
And, typically, it was (apparently) the women who were immoral.
Seriously, little changes in Britain, and it's been like this for centuries.
Yes. Yes it is somewhat brush.Garbage person
let’s just remember the choice we had when we last voted, the alternative being a Corbyn led government.
Somewhat brush to call everyone who voted for the largest party a garbage person (whatever that may be!).
Was this eyesight test drive thing a big old Trumpian style distraction?
Give everyone something so ridiculous to run with so we ignore the fundamental issues at the heart of his story? Now I’ve digested it a bit it just feels too constructed. They’ve had over 48 hours to get this story sorted and the excuse they come up with was “eyesight”.
Give everyone something so ridiculous to run with so we ignore the fundamental issues at the heart of his story? Now I’ve digested it a bit it just feels too constructed. They’ve had over 48 hours to get this story sorted and the excuse they come up with was “eyesight”.
Mine. But then again, I doubt he has a Mondeo estate (lay off me, it’s a company car).
There must be so many families where both parents had the disease at a similar time. How does he think they’ve all managed it.
one of the perils of posting from a phone.
Would love to have heard your opinion if Corbyn had won the election and his chief advisor conducted himself the exact same way as Cummings did. Food for thought? Your tribalism is very transparent.Garbage person
let’s just remember the choice we had when we last voted, the alternative being a Corbyn led government.
Somewhat brush to call everyone who voted for the largest party a garbage person (whatever that may be!).
Johnson: "To the best of my knowledge, Mr Cummings has just subjected himself to your interrogation for quite a long time now"
'Interrogation'. They're the victims, folks. Who knew?
'Interrogation'. They're the victims, folks. Who knew?
well I can’t answer a hypothetical question - so it doesn’t matter.
i’m really not tribal, and it’s good to have an opposing perspective - that’s why I post here and not on www.RightWingToryLovers.co.uk
If 60k+ had died under Corbyn and all this happened, imagine what the narrative would be in this country.
If you were a senior official in government who was concerned about possible attacks on your home do you....
a) phone Downing street security team and ask for Police protection detail or
b) leave quietly one evening, telling noone where you are going, fill up your car and drive for nearly 5 hours with no stops to accommodate the bladder of a 4 year old child or
c) read the latest report about Hospitals in London reaching crisis point and potentially collapsing and decide you are too chicken to be around when things hit the fan so you are going somewhere you know you can get treatment if you get it as bad as Boris has....even though we are telling the country he is still ok.
a) phone Downing street security team and ask for Police protection detail or
b) leave quietly one evening, telling noone where you are going, fill up your car and drive for nearly 5 hours with no stops to accommodate the bladder of a 4 year old child or
c) read the latest report about Hospitals in London reaching crisis point and potentially collapsing and decide you are too chicken to be around when things hit the fan so you are going somewhere you know you can get treatment if you get it as bad as Boris has....even though we are telling the country he is still ok.
What a reply this was! Best comment I’ve seen this month!
Probably. That trip breaks lockdown rules no matter how he spins it the second he and his family leave the car. Witnesses and police are investigating so he has to admit that trip happened. Thus he admits it but fabricates a farcical excuse so the focus is on that rather than the more pertinent matter which is he has just conceded he broke the lockdown rules, but he dresses it up as ‘kid needing toilet’ and ‘we observed social distancing at all times’ to make it appear reasonable. The ‘I thought I was blind’ excuse obfuscates the transgression that’s really at the heart of the matter here.
Think he has a landrover discovery
Tank is 90 litres I believe on the new model... so just under 20 gallons... it gets a little over 30mpg on long runs apparently
So I'd guess his car in theory could do that run on one tank
John McGurrrrrggghhhhhk.
Deliberately taking a pedantic and contrarian stance isn't really in the spirit of that though, is it?
It may well be that you genuinely consider Cummings to have done nothing wrong and that this is an unimportant matter.
However, you must understand that people are very annoyed that one of the prime architects of the Government's lockdown policy has flagrantly and unapologetically breached the guidelines whilst the populace sacrificed an enormous amount including in similar circumstances.
To pretend that you don't is unlikely to lead to you being seen as taking a reasonable position.
Also, you can answer a hypothetical question. You choose not to : surely the answer must be that with all other facts being consistent save the individuals concerned being Corbyn, or equivalent, and family your view would be the same. If not, then there can only be one reason why not.
I don't think any politician or media person should use the term "unelectable" ever again tbh.
the point about a hypothetical question, is any answer I give you would be declared nonsense.
if the only difference was that Cummings worked for a labour government, then my stance and opinion would be exactly the same.
do you believe me?
Yes, I don't see why not to.
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The two "defences" I've mainly seen to this are:
1. the "now can we move on?" kind of thing, which is pretty arrogant thing to say when it's clear that people are (justifiably) very upset /angered by this and by the continued lies/contempt coming out of Downing Street.
2. Showing pictures of journalists crowding him /other people not social distracting and saying "WHAT ABOUT THEM?!"...which is pretty ludicrous as we should expect our rule setters / politicians to hold themselves to a higher standard... Much like how a policeman committing a minor crime would look worse then just a regular person doing so.
1. the "now can we move on?" kind of thing, which is pretty arrogant thing to say when it's clear that people are (justifiably) very upset /angered by this and by the continued lies/contempt coming out of Downing Street.
2. Showing pictures of journalists crowding him /other people not social distracting and saying "WHAT ABOUT THEM?!"...which is pretty ludicrous as we should expect our rule setters / politicians to hold themselves to a higher standard... Much like how a policeman committing a minor crime would look worse then just a regular person doing so.
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Some digging done on Cummings' matter of fact statement about having written about the threat of Coronavirus (spoiler: he lied).
Funny, because you seem to have swallowed Cummings hypothetical answer!
Its worse than that, the guardian and Mirror were onto this weeks ago but Downing St has been obfuscating in the hope that this goes away.
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Sadly, whilst I appreciate the idea of the opposition all coming together on this issue, I fail to see what impact they could have.
Yeah. With an 80-seat majority, this was for the media to hold their feet to the fire.
The DUP wont be in opposition. They'll back boris to the hilt for some under the table deal.