He would not have said it if it was going to poll badly. Depressingly.
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Got to fully agree with you about that. While I sometimes watch or listen to it, Boris is just taking the piss out of what should be parliamentary democracy.
He knows the leader of the opposition gets 6 questions and makes zero attempt at answering any of them, preferring to go off on a complete tangent.
And week after week he gets away with it.
Just taking the piss.
Exactly that.
While I do understand the point you are making, when you cast your vote, you don't really know what the outcome is going to be. At least in principle anyway.
I don't like the current UK voting system that much.
But I don't trust the buggers enough to want them to change it either.
I am a firm believer in the saying... be careful what you wish for. And the law of unintended consequences.
Unless there are very special circumstances like a couple of the recent byelections in the UK where there was some scandal with the MP, if you live in a rural constituency with a Tory majority of say 20000 you know full well that if you stay there, a Tory MP will be your MP for the rest of your life. There's a chance in urban areas there may be some change..
If you actually directly elect the PM rather than your local constituency MP surely this must be much more democratic.
You mustn't be frightened of change because not changing is sinking the UK lower and lower into the mire to a point where there may be no possible way out and you'll be in a one party state which seems to be the intention anyway.
Again. I do understand what you are saying and I agree, in principle.
But I have been around plenty long enough to have developed a healthy mistrust of not just politicians, but people in positions of power in general.
They all say that they are in it to 'make a difference'.
Yeah right.
But in the vast majority of cases, power corrupts and nobody gives up power without a fight.
Making elections fairer as far as I am concerned is very much like those unicorns you mentioned regarding Brexit.
That doesn't mean we ought not try. But nobody is leading that charge.
And then dumb feckers vote for his party. Shambles all round.
My opinion of politicians is no better than yours but you've got to give yourself a chance, somehow.
None of the politicians want to change because they're quite happy as they are.
If you can't change the system straight away, you need a decent opposition. Having weak people like Corbyn and Starmer as opposition leaders has helped the Tories bulldoze their way through British politics; Someone has to have backbone and not be scared because their way of trying to please everybody and nobody definitely doesn't work.
True, but it wouldn't matter if it polled badly either.
Johnson could go up to the dispatch box and say "Starmer is a cnut". As soon as Starmer responded with "I can't believe you just called me a cnut" the headlines would be 'classless Starmer breaks rules by swearing in Parliament'.
Backbone certainly lacking. The only party who makes the case is the Liberals. And at the time of an election, they become irrelevant.
But nobody I speak to has any interest in this as a subject.
I guess we have become accustomed to a GE every 5 years for good or bad.
The last important thing we changed was Brexit.
Enough said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61497660
Sunak warns that the next few months will be tough.
Talk about stating the Bleeding Obvious....
Sunak warns that the next few months will be tough.
Talk about stating the Bleeding Obvious....
I’m convinced this is now sabotage by Sunak. He’s a disaster capitalist and his family and friends are going to be pillaging the country as it breaks down.
For a guy hotly tipped to replace Boris only a matter of weeks ago, his political career has taken a Manchester United type nose dive hasn't it.
When people were lauding him for chucking money around during the pandemic, I was highly sceptical about him and his abilities when things got tough.
He is just an imposter with no substance.
It is in my experience, but as I said, with a small 'c', we are basically still at heart an island race, despite of lots of immigrants over the centuries (not just since EU) and despite lots of arguments against it, by the time second and third generations appear on the scene, many have 'gone native' and become small 'c' conservative, in outlook, if not actually in politics and don't welcome change; although once it happens we seem to embrace it much quicker... bit of a paradox that!
Agreed, support for left wing policies can be shown in lots of studies, for most left wing policies its hard not to agree, even for Tories, but when it comes to voting...ah well that's a different matter.
I agree, except for referendums, where a vote is directly focused on a person or an outcome, most of my votes have been immaterial to the outcome. Except strangely in local elections, I do remember at least three, or possibly four local outcomes where my choice of candidate won with majorities of less than a 100, so I always felt "I made a difference".
We don't elect a President so it won't happen in the UK, votes go to individuals who supposedly follow the party line. I think the idea is that local people (who should stand) will know the needs of the area, but will toe the party line when the whips get going. Trouble is its rarely local people who do stand these days, party favourites' are 'parachuted in' and the local party toes the line and tries to get them elected; I'm afraid the FPTP works, for professional politicians and they will not allow it to change.... unless we do manage at some point to come up with a written constitution.
I suspect this idea that all the left leaning parties should stand on one united ticket of 'change the FPTP system' is doomed, especially in Scotland and Wales who under devolution enjoy power in their own domain, they will likely be reluctant to chance their arm to help out England.
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I could have sworn that we've been told that things are going to get tough by Sunak and Johnson at least three times already this year?
Correct.
But anyway. Boris is going to sort out the cost of living crisis.
He is going to change the car MoT test from every year to every 2 years.
Sorted.
The alleged sexual offences for which a Conservative MP has been arrested include one connected to someone aged under 18, it has emerged as Labour called for the MP to be identified.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...offences-include-one-relating-person-under-18
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...offences-include-one-relating-person-under-18
It has less do with the viewing habits of the general public and more to do with the destruction of the trade union movement and the welfare state over the decades. Meaningful protests and action requires people to be organised.
Very much so, yes. That is a fair point.
Officers should use discretion over stealing to eat, says police watchdog
New chief inspector of constabulary says crimes of poverty should be ‘dealt with in the best way possible’
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-over-stealing-to-eat-says-uk-police-watchdog
New chief inspector of constabulary says crimes of poverty should be ‘dealt with in the best way possible’
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-over-stealing-to-eat-says-uk-police-watchdog
You wonder how people keep voting Tory, but then reading the comment section in right wing media underlines the fact most people do have horrible right wing views. I always assumed the DM/Tel commenters were a minority, but I guess that is the 40% that always votes Tory no matter what.
Like this piece about the Aviva CEO getting sexist abuse at the company's AGM last week. Raising the issue is 'woke garbage' and she's only CEO as a box-ticking thing, naturally, ignoring the shares are up 76% during her tenure (an admittedly crude barometer of success). It's depressing reading, but most of the electorate are horrible bigoted people.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/busines...e-not-whether-wear-trousers-says-aviva-chief/
Like this piece about the Aviva CEO getting sexist abuse at the company's AGM last week. Raising the issue is 'woke garbage' and she's only CEO as a box-ticking thing, naturally, ignoring the shares are up 76% during her tenure (an admittedly crude barometer of success). It's depressing reading, but most of the electorate are horrible bigoted people.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/busines...e-not-whether-wear-trousers-says-aviva-chief/
I really despise both of those journalists. Maybe Harry Cole still has feelings for Carrie so he's trying to impress.
It's all the immigrants fault.
He's tried to stay out of the bad stories and tried to sell good ones with his social media image selling us his crap however he has been exposed for just another self centred Tory MP who is just incompetent and doesn't care about the public.
Yet, the trade unions still keep paying political levies to the major opposition party who appoints hopeless leaders with no hope of winning elections, who have a significant number of shadow cabinet members who send their kids to private schools, yet continual demand better state school provision, who ignore (and have done for years) its true supporters and when in power did nothing to reverse the effects of Thatchers reign.
Labour will never hold real power because when they have it they don't know what to do with it!
Its enough to drive anyone to read the Daily Mail
People under 50 spend their lives trying to work out how 40 percent of people vote Tory when most people they meet don't seem to be sadists when the answer is that you're not talking to that many people over 50.
It's really, really weird, isn't it?
Not just under 50.
thank goodness that waste of tax payer money enquiry is over. now johnson can get back to really wasting tax payer money and funnelling moolah through his chum’s
pockets.
pockets.
Very strange.
It really doesn't makes sense to bemoan that unions are not effective enough, so as a response, jump over to support the right wing rags or politicians who will implement the exact opposite of what you claim you wanted from trade unions in the first place.Yet, the trade unions still keep paying political levies to the major opposition party who appoints hopeless leaders with no hope of winning elections, who have a significant number of shadow cabinet members who send their kids to private schools, yet continual demand better state school provision, who ignore (and have done for years) its true supporters and when in power did nothing to reverse the effects of Thatchers reign.
Labour will never hold real power because when they have it they don't know what to do with it!
Its enough to drive anyone to read the Daily Mail
It's nonsensical.
So from what I gather from Twitter, more fines have been handed out to junior staffers for attending illegal parties and which Johnson also attended inky Johnson has not been fined because he was somehow there.. legally?
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They are 100% aware of the impunity of their strategic and systematic lying, and, as the scum they are, they are 100% willing to take full advantage of that too, and so the lies are becoming more and more frequent and more and more blatant and grotesque.
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