I highely doubt that'll happen. In fact, if you're right, you can choose my next tagline.
Who here hopes United get spanked tonight?
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
There you go. I'm not completely nuts to think there might be people out there hoping we lose.
Have to say, I think your stance is entirely logical although I also understand why you're torn. You're treading new ground as a football fan, psychologically.
That kind of gets to the reason why I started the thread. This is an entirely new situation to every united fan under a certain age. Not having absolute faith in the manager. The effects of this very unusual situation on the psyche of United fans are interesting. To me anyway.
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If it was a gauranteed case of short term loss for long term gain then I wouldn't be disappointed. During the game itself though I'll be desperate to see us win.
It's up to the owners really. I don't think one off result will change their mind. If that was it drawing with Fulham with over 80 crosses would have been it.
I think he will be sacked at the end of the season. Surely there is a clause ini his contract for underachieving.
A man who is reluctant to change/tweak a system that didn't work for him in almost 6 months, I don't think he is gonna learn his lessons. He had the time and the players to try a different system rater than the one that he knows and swears by. Alienating players like Kagawa and Hernandez shows his lack of man management skills as well. Unlike the time when Sir Alex took charge of us, we are the Champions of England and has been for 3 times in the last 5 years. And almost nobody in here expected him to win the league this season. But with the players in our disposal, even counting the injuries, was enough to secure a 4th; or to win some games against team from lower parts of the table.
I thought you said not wanting a loss was illogical? Is there any stance that isn't illogical?
Should of added 'everyone who is hoping they lose' rather than just everyone.
Other than the sheer perverseness of wanting your own team to lose - which I will never get on board with - the deeper reason is that I am open to being wrong.
Everything David Moyes has done since taking the job, and his Everton career, has convinced me he is not up to the job of being our manager. However, I don't dislike the man and am willing to accept I could be wrong, but he doesn't have much time left to start proving that. He'd have already been sacked if it were my decision.
Everything David Moyes has done since taking the job, and his Everton career, has convinced me he is not up to the job of being our manager. However, I don't dislike the man and am willing to accept I could be wrong, but he doesn't have much time left to start proving that. He'd have already been sacked if it were my decision.
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Typo! Should have said logical!
What is the point of this thread? You've already decided what you think Moyes' detractors think and should think. Now, you are trying to persuade people to agree with you for some sort of satisfaction that you are the Toppest of Reds? If you were genuinely interested in the opinions of people, why are you insistently trying to get them to agree with you about what they think?
I suspect whatever we say in public there will be a clause that says we only have to pay a years wages if we sack him
I don't see the point in hoping for a heavy defeat because it's highly unlikely Moyes gets sacked during the season and I doubt we sack him in the summer regardless of where we finish. Whether we want Moyes here or not, one thing we all want is the top 4, and another loss really harms whatever slim chance we have of that. Fwiw, I think we get a draw tommorow.
What does this even mean? Seriously. I think it's some kind of insult, right? Can you expand upon what is meant by it? It's been used so much and to mean so many things I have no idea what it means in the context of this thread. Shouldn't a "top red" never want his team to lose, under any circumstances? Only I've already said that doesn't apply to me. So what's your point?
Topp Redd is asterisked out now? I endorse that idea!
I want Aresnal to win the title so for that reason alone, a defate would be less bitter an experience to some of the other defeats we have had this season.
But in answer to the OP - no i cant bring myself for us to ever lose a match.
But in answer to the OP - no i cant bring myself for us to ever lose a match.
Well we are 9 points off Liverpool. Yes they are playing well and we are playing crap but City were gods gift to football for the last 2 months and they've just dropped 5 points in two games. Whatever you think of the manager we need to keep pushing as hard as we can till the end of the season.
win,draw or lose won't change nothing. Club will stand by moyes though i have the feeling that he ll have to make some tactical changes
I would like to see us defeat Arsenal, regardless of the dire consequences that may result from it.
The consequences of defeating arsenal can't be dire surely. Winning at arsenal must be good all round for staff and supporter confidence alike!
Imagine what a defeat at home to this United side would do to Arsenal?
He means buying Moyes more time.
Of course I hope for a big win for us. I'm skeptical though because I think Arsenal will want to show a good reaction to the Liverpool game so they will go out on the field with fire in their belly.
Oh yeah and if the day ever comes that I hope for a defeat of my team just so the manager gets fired I think it's time for me to stop watching football altogether. On top of that I still don't see a good replacement for Moyes that's available. During the summer a lot can change and some managers who could be a quality option might be willing to leave their clubs but there is little chance of that happening during the season.
Oh yeah and if the day ever comes that I hope for a defeat of my team just so the manager gets fired I think it's time for me to stop watching football altogether. On top of that I still don't see a good replacement for Moyes that's available. During the summer a lot can change and some managers who could be a quality option might be willing to leave their clubs but there is little chance of that happening during the season.
I like the idea that the board's decision to sack Moyes or not will hinge on this game. Moyes, look, we finished 11th, got knocked out of every competition and you've offended all our players and shagged Mr Glazer's wife. However you did get us that win over Arsenal so you're fine to have another season with us!
Agreed. Although the currently available Hiddink is something of an emergency surgery specialist.
I think Moyes is safe as houses this season.
Why is Giggs a perfect caretaker manager?
Because HE IS THE DANGER!
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If you've got a semi good looking wife sure. But I've never fancied him as captain, he's always appeared super bland in interviews (apart from that class of 92 where he actually looked interesting) and he's got zero experience. I'm just curious to know what makes him a good candidate, maybe there's something, I just don't know what it is...
I could never sit through a match and hope the opponent scores, regardless of what consequence a loss would have. Even if I was sure that Moyes would be fired if we lost, still don't think I could watch and celebrate an Arsenal victory.
I would never want United to lose. I hope we go and absolutely dick them.
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What the feck are you babbling on about?
Moyes is not going to get sacked regardless. He deserves, and he will get, the chance to mould a new team before we can really judge whether he is up to the job.
It's good to see some positivity creeping in again, but unless Liverpool have an almighty implosion and we somehow start winning games consistently from now, 4th is as good as gone. That's not even including Everton and Spurs into the mix, who could go on a run themselves. Don't we also have around four away games on the bounce coming up?
Great post. Another useless thread about Moyes.
Humble question, why does he deserve it?
When he was hired I said he was deserving of a chance at a bigger club. He'd done enough at Everton to deserve the step up, although I think Newcastle or Tottenham would've been a more fitting step up for him.
This.
I think Moyes can be the right guy but may need a hand on the tactical front, like SAF. Someone with a bit more nous in that department would be handy, judging from what we've seen so far from Moyes.
Exactly what i tried to say in my earlier post but failed miserably in conveying.
I'd rather take a savage beaten on the streets then see United lose