The situation at Ajax is... less than ideal at the moment, though. Not going there is not necessarily as weird as it might seem.
Who replaces Ten Hag?
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Perennial chokers in the big games.
United aren't even good enough to get into enough big games to qualify as chokers.
Yeah I agree
I think he’s definitely feeling confident about another job. Ajax was a big one to turn down. Either England (to try to win the World Cup in 2026) or United I’d guess.
If INEOS didn't have Blanc and Berrada in the building then yeah an old boy appointment could happen. But these are serious football executives who have certainly watched the likes of Southgate and know how ruthlessly they will be exposed against the big boys. No way they are signing up for that nonsense.
I think we will go the young, unproven but promising manager route. A slight recalibration of the thought process that brought Ten Hag in and I think it will be a name from out of the blue and will surprise us and the footballing world. Whether it will work out will be difficult to know.
I think we will go the young, unproven but promising manager route. A slight recalibration of the thought process that brought Ten Hag in and I think it will be a name from out of the blue and will surprise us and the footballing world. Whether it will work out will be difficult to know.
Who says no to Emery at United?
Agreed but it’s still a big club, our situation would appear less than ideal but I’m pretty sure there would be a lot of managers who would love to take up the challenge of bringing success to Manchester United again.
Sean Dyche. No, hear me out…
He just signed a contract extension at Villa a couple of weeks ago, he isn't going anywhere this summer.
Aston Villa suits him best. Besides, why would he leave a Champions League team to manage in the midtable?
I have the same feeling and mentioned it in a post earlier. I was not sure on his name being bandied about but two things leads me to believe that it might be him:
(1) Statements coming out that INEOS are not particularly looking for someone who has won things in the past for the job
(2) Potter turning down the Ajax job. Which was a bit surprising for me given that all the decent English jobs are taken. Spurs, Villa, NewCastle, West Ham - all the jobs where you could see him manage are already taken.
Potter is English, knows our imminent Dof, did reasonably well at Brighton & played a system which was easy on the eye, knows the PL, has done the round at a big club & knows the demands. He might fit in well with what INEOS are looking for.
Like you, I am not sure how I feel about it either. I have mentioned before that for me the new manager should be someone who should at least look like someone capable to winning the two big trophies. I am unsure if Potter has that charisma or that personality.
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He's done a good job but for me he's in the bracket of De Zerbi and Potter. I think he'd be a huge risk.
Wasn't this dude hot shit a couple of years back? Took the bag, though.
Thomas Frank... uhh, no, thank you. These names aren't filling me with any confidence whatsoever
I think he’s done equally as good a job as both of them.
Yeah I think he could still be a really interesting option.
Frank is more proven in the PL than either De Zerbi or Potter. He has shown more consistency over a longer period of time.
But I just don’t think he is all that inspiring.
His River Plate teams scored 755 goals from 424 games under him.
He'd suit the INEOS model. Brentford are data driven. Analytical.
I think some United fans would like the directness and pace that Frank utilises. Some United fans hate possession.
I was listening to the Athletic Podcast about Brighton and Brentford and it was interesting to hear their take on Frank, as someone who doesn't see many of their games. Particularly the part about him playing a style that is more mandated by ownership and people above him and how it shows his flexibility in approach was quite interesting.
I agree he'd be a risk like Potter and De Zerbi, but right now I think all managers available are a risk in some way or another. I'm kind of intrigued by Frank, but not sure how he'd manage in a bigger club.
No thanks …cant listen to that voice.
Sounds like a Dalek or one of the Martians from Cadbury’s potato Smash advert.
Exterminate exterminate, we will smash them all to bits….
He had Brentford play a dominant possession based type of attacking football in the Championship. Then he changed to a more pragmatic style with a solid low block and quick counterattacks against better opposition in the Prem. He’s also very good at preparing for the specific opponent. But his biggest strength is perhaps his man management and ability to create a team spirit with a winning, never give up mentality. Whether he can do that at big club is unknown.
He’ll be the next longest serving manager in the pl when Klopp leaves, I believe.
Note how Barcelona and Bayern both just extended / are looking to extend their coaches the minute they realized they won't be able to get Erik ten Hag. If that doesn't tell you everything you need to know, nothing will. We will be fools to let him go.According to tha latest rumours Thomas Tuchel may stay at Bayern beyond this seasonthis is one of the strangest and funniest managerial saga in the recent years involving some of the biggest clubs in the world..
I still think that Carrick would do a great job as manager/coach at United.
Some of the managers mentioned really kick off when things go against them, but Carrick seems to be quite relaxed on the side when his team are playing.
The problem is that no one knows how any of the guys mentioned will do when given the job, Carrick would command a greater respect from players than some being highlighted here, and would fit straight in to the environment, plus he seems to allow players a bit of freedom on the park, as opposed to 'playing the right system'.
Let's hope that whoever INEOS go for, it's the right guy.
Some of the managers mentioned really kick off when things go against them, but Carrick seems to be quite relaxed on the side when his team are playing.
The problem is that no one knows how any of the guys mentioned will do when given the job, Carrick would command a greater respect from players than some being highlighted here, and would fit straight in to the environment, plus he seems to allow players a bit of freedom on the park, as opposed to 'playing the right system'.
Let's hope that whoever INEOS go for, it's the right guy.
You forgot Pep.
But he is next.
What is exclusive of that. He has been spoken about as a potential replacement for ages.
My take on any replacement for Ten Hag is that they are going to need to be capable of dealing with the extreme pressure of managing Manchester United.
So for that reason, I would be primarily looking for a chief coach skill set in order to limit the role.
My choice would be Tuchal because of his knowledge of the PL and English game. And his mental toughness.
Or possibly deZerbi, Frank or Potter but will Gareth Southgate as DoF might work.
Sebastian Hoeness - Stuttgart's manager seems to be going under the radar, 1 point behind Tuchel's Bayern without the star studded team, may need an honest look especially if we are looking a head coach over a managerial position
I mentioned him in this thread. He's done a great job at Stuttgart. He just turned 42. Up and coming.
Stuttgart sold some of their best players last summer. Sosa, Mavropanos and Endo all left. This season was unexpected.
But he already said he wants to stay in Stuttgart and get CL experience with them (quite similar to Alonso actually). He also extended his contract, but reports suggest that he has a release clause, so it might be possible to approach and convince him.
Hoeness is one of the hottest names in Germany and rightly so. I don’t see why we’d go for him rather than Thomas Frank though - both has overperformed with their teams, but the latter has done it for a longer period and knows the league.
Oh, City and Newcastle don’t count as football clubs in my world.
Frank, Potter, De Zerbi, Southgate???
feck me, talk about scrapping the barrel ffs.
feck me, talk about scrapping the barrel ffs.
I don't hate possession, I expect United to have most of it at pretty much every home game and against most opposition. Only conceding it tactically or against superior opponents, like Fergie would do. But I'm not a fan of the Dutch or Pep style possession for possession's sake.
I’m hoping Berrada and Wilcox will veto some of these names that are probably thrown in by INEOS. There’s no way we should be considering Frank or Southgate.
I think Berrada and Wilcox being at City and the success they have had will influence the style of play and ultimately the choice of manager/coach. Can see us being City mk2
Wilcox was at Southampton.
The thing is, Berrarda had what influence on the style of play at City? None that I can gather, and we don't have a clue what Wilcox has in store for us because INEOS hasn't told us anything about their plans. If there are any.
I also don't want us to be City Mark 2, imagine how BORING that would be? We've already failed with every single possession manager we've had, as well as the defensive coaches like Mourinho. Can't we just play attacking football like Fergie, Tommy Docherty and Matt Busby? We were dominant doing that under Fergie and Busby, and very entertaining and hard to beat under Docherty playing it as well.
Frank is a good manager.
Didn't expect that. Not gonna lie, I think he's a great manager and has shown it over an extended period of time. Also willing to change his tactics for specific games. I'd back him if he was INEOS' choice for sure.
Yeah I agree. Ratcliffe has basically said it too. The club will decide the style of play and identity going forward.
He was at City too where as academy director he made sure that their whole academy were playing a certain style. It's why players like Foden, Lewis and Palmer made the easy transition to the first team. They already knew what Pep wanted out of them. At Southampton the first thing he did was hire a head coach in Russell Martin who carried out the style of football he wanted them to play.