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We need a proven manager at the top level, who has won things. No more of this 'taking a punt' kind of manager. So that means no Martinez, Pochettino or whoever else is flavour of the month.
Think Pochettino will make it to a big club within the next few yearsI would love it if mauricio pochettino will be consider for the United job if Moyes does not improve our team performances. He was my personal choice to take over since last summer when Ferguaon retired. Moreover, I will have the upmost confident for United's future, if he was the one doing the rebuilding and imbueing a new philosophy at United.
What? Is this real life?I would love it if mauricio pochettino will be consider for the United job if Moyes does not improve our team performances. He was my personal choice to take over since last summer when Ferguaon retired. Moreover, I will have the upmost confident for United's future, if he was the one doing the rebuilding and imbueing a new philosophy at United.
We didnt even need to go to Jose. If really didnt like the whole circus he brings we still had plenty of options. It hard to see how any of the top managers wouldnt have us in the top 4 at least. In fact most would have us in the title race. The likes of Ancelotti would have us playing good football,has PL experience and has a CL to his name. He was the perfect choice outside of Jose.If Fergie had used common sense last May and appointed Jose instead of getting all emotional and appointing a novice, this thread would be non existent.
This is perhaps part of what went wrong in the first place - whilst we the fans might prioritise the style of play that a manager brings to the club, I'm not sure there's been any indication at all that that was taken into account when the appointment was made. Of all we've heard from Sir Alex about why Moyes got the job, has there been much (any?) talk about his style of play or how he would bring the team forward? There's been plenty about his character, using young players and remaining at Everton for 11 years without being canned, etc., but I can't imagine the board meeting that approved Moyes unanimously spent too long going over such details as how the team would play.Providing we don't make the same mistake like with Moyes. Which was expecting Manchester United to change the manger rather than the other way round. Sound pretty funny when you look at it. A defensive resilient coach who we expected to play fast and progressive football.
Klopps eyeing the German national team job after the world cup with Low likely to fumble again in Brazil at least the Bild had stitched up this spiel for the last couple seasons with many ex Bavarian numpties all crowing on the same line. Before Guardiola took over, they viewed Klopp as a threat to their local dominance and wanted to move him away from Dortmund to Frankfurt.Do you real think we can pry Klopp away from Dortmund? I'd love it to be the case but our resident Germans consider it just as likely that we sign Messi.
This.We need a proven manager at the top level, who has won things. No more of this 'taking a punt' kind of manager. So that means no Martinez, Pochettino or whoever else is flavour of the month.
This 100%We need a proven manager at the top level, who has won things. No more of this 'taking a punt' kind of manager. So that means no Martinez, Pochettino or whoever else is flavour of the month.
I'm not sure really tbh. The names banded about like Capello, Van Gal don't really inspire me. We had the perfect situation in the Summer where we could have got one of Mourinho, Guardiola or Anchelotti...and now we're gonna have to either go a step down if we go for someone 'available', or just chuck a load of money at someone like Kloop. Or maybe even accept we made a mistake and go all out to prise Jose from Chelsea? I don't know if that would even be possible.This.
Who does that give us?
This sounds good in theory but in truth it's absolute BS of the highest order........For a start there are no managers with years of experience out there that are either available or suitable - Hiddink and Ancelloti will not be available....Capello and Van Gaal I doubt would be suitable. Who else would you suggest? Lippi? Curbishly?We need a proven manager at the top level, who has won things. No more of this 'taking a punt' kind of manager. So that means no Martinez, Pochettino or whoever else is flavour of the month.
That was part of the problem with Sir Alex making the choosing. If other people were more involved we might have looked for a manager who would have created a team that plays a different, more modern, brand of football. But if Sir Alex thought our style was a problem, he would have done something about it over the last few years. He hasn't, so he didn't see a need to pick a manager who would.This is perhaps part of what went wrong in the first place - whilst we the fans might prioritise the style of play that a manager brings to the club, I'm not sure there's been any indication at all that that was taken into account when the appointment was made. Of all we've heard from Sir Alex about why Moyes got the job, has there been much (any?) talk about his style of play or how he would bring the team forward? There's been plenty about his character, using young players and remaining at Everton for 11 years without being canned, etc., but I can't imagine the board meeting that approved Moyes unanimously spent too long going over such details as how the team would play.
It's a bit painful to see the managers who joined new clubs last summer and who we ended up getting. Kind of like seeing all the quality midfielders changing clubs in recent years, while we signed no one.I'd take Ancellotti in a heartbeat in the summer but I'd just as happy settle for an up and coming manager that is consistently punching above his weight while playing pressing attractive football. Moyes has already proven that tactically he simply is not up to the job unless he brings in a top coach in the summer to help him out and he may be too stubborn to even consider that.
Didn't he buy Kagawa as a first step in changing our style? Supposedly other players were against the idea or something...That was part of the problem with Sir Alex making the choosing. If other people were more involved we might have looked for a manager who would have created a team that plays a different, more modern, brand of football. But if Sir Alex thought our style was a problem, he would have done something about it over the last few years. He hasn't, so he didn't see a need to pick a manager who would.
Its bullshit of the highest order wanting a proven manager?This sounds good in theory but in truth it's absolute BS of the highest order........For a start there are no managers with years of experience out there that are either available or suitable - Hiddink and Ancelloti will not be available....Capello and Van Gaal I doubt would be suitable. Who else would you suggest? Lippi? Curbishly?
Liverpool, Everton, Atletico Madrid, Southampton, Dortmund, Juventus etc are all doing extremely well with managers they initially took a punt on because they all chose managers that sold them a vision of winning while playing modern attractive football that the fans demand at big clubs.
Mourinho and Guardiola were flavor of the month at the start of their young careers and are still flavor of the month because they are born winners.
I'd take Ancellotti in a heartbeat in the summer but I'd just as happy settle for an up and coming manager that is consistently punching above his weight while playing pressing attractive football. Moyes has already proven that tactically he simply is not up to the job unless he brings in a top coach in the summer to help him out and he may be too stubborn to even consider that.
You could always look for little signs, like our early games in 2011/12 or the signing of Kagawa, but the bottom line is it never fully happened. Even our move to a diamond formation last season was quickly forgotten.Didn't he buy Kagawa as a first step in changing our style? Supposedly other players were against the idea or something...
No, but we have to accept that we're not getting one right now and we have to look elsewhere.Its bullshit of the highest order wanting a proven manager?
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Good. Maybe this will prompt the Glazers and Woodward to ask who is this Louis Van Gaal?Tweet
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It wouldn't be insanity at all. You don't need to hire a manager based solely on their CV. Their managerial style and tactics should play massive parts as well. I think someone like Pochettino would be brilliant at a bigger club. If I was United I'd rather have him, than say a Van Gaal or Hiddink. I don't think he'll even be considered though.This 100%
It amazes me that people would come out of Moyes' reign thinking that appointing a manager with no experience at anything near our level is a good idea. It's the single biggest mistake the club has made in decades and people are already eager to repeat it. It's insanity.
A white Sol Campbell please
Pochettino would be a shout to move up a level to a club like Spurs, or a Spanish side like Valencia or the like.It wouldn't be insanity at all. You don't need to hire a manager based solely on their CV. Their managerial style and tactics should play massive parts as well. I think someone like Pochettino would be brilliant at a bigger club. If I was United I'd rather have him, than say a Van Gaal or Hiddink. I don't think he'll even be considered though.
Capello put me off as well with his England stint to be honest.I'm not sure really tbh. The names banded about like Capello, Van Gal don't really inspire me.
I'd be doing everything we can to get Klopp but set a deadline to it. Past the deadline then we jump on van gaal. I'd take either with open arms. I'd even accept a name change to van Redsky!I'd still hope we'd try everything to persuade Klopp. I'd take van Gaal though
^This is what I think.That is correct. Usually after a few years he falls out with both the players and the club. However on those years he will pretty much guarantee you a great infrastructure for the next manager, exciting football and possibly a few trophies.
I think that from the available choices he is the best choice (although personally I favour Bielsa - he is even more extreme than Van Gaal) and he can give some good years. When he falls out with the players/club, well, pull the trigger and sack him. Hopefully by then either Klopp would be available or Ole would have shown that he can do a job here.
A white Sol Campbell please
I don't get it ? Is it a reference to something ?A white Sol Campbell please
I don't get it either....I don't get it ? Is it a reference to something ?