Nothing on him today, the measure shouldnt be on a loan player but on the so called world class players that didnt turn up...
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Im not saying he is good. But hes clearly not the reason we lost 7-0 today
I feel lied to for believing we were signing him as a rotation option off the bench in games where we need that extra body in the box, or for teams who sit deep and we wanted a target against.
What I did not bargain for was playing Wout as an attacking midfielder hybrid. Something he's never done, and with his limitations will never be good at.
There was no way McTominay wouldn't have been a better option today for whatever it was Ten Haag wanted to use Wout for. And Scot also comes with the history of having good games against top teams and being an actual midfielder and an extra body in defense and transition.
Shambles all round.
What I did not bargain for was playing Wout as an attacking midfielder hybrid. Something he's never done, and with his limitations will never be good at.
There was no way McTominay wouldn't have been a better option today for whatever it was Ten Haag wanted to use Wout for. And Scot also comes with the history of having good games against top teams and being an actual midfielder and an extra body in defense and transition.
Shambles all round.
Yeah that's fair enough. Ironically I think he's a good shout to sub in when you're 4-0 down and want to prevent a rout.
Yup. On top of that, let's add Ighalo and almost Arnautović to the whole random list of solutions that lasted literal months in some cases.
He looked lethargic and with no intensity even when we looked ok in the first half.
A far better shout than McTominay.
Pretty sure a full shambles would have been easily avoided today if we'd started Sabitzer and brought on Wout early second half.
We were already 3-0 down when he was subbed off in the 58th minute. He did feck all.
Haha fair enoughIt was 3-0 when he went off I think?
I don't really want to go back and check
This forum has a lot of weird takes but I guess this takes the cake.
A player with a bit more quality than Weghorst would've made more of the times he got the ball in the first half.
If only we had a number 10/8 hybrid who works hard and has a decent enough ability on the ball to play his role today. Hmmm.
If only we had a number 10/8 hybrid who works hard and has a decent enough ability on the ball to play his role today. Hmmm.
What concerns me is we've no-one from the academy to come in and try and make a name for themselves in what are real times of need.
Weghorst has his uses, but nevermind anything else, he must be knackered and he himself needs rotating.
His final third output surely can be matched by others at the club; it's a one goal (outside the PL) and a few assist bar.
Weghorst has his uses, but nevermind anything else, he must be knackered and he himself needs rotating.
His final third output surely can be matched by others at the club; it's a one goal (outside the PL) and a few assist bar.
I havent said too much about him because we've been doing so well recently... Although to me it was in spite of him.
He ends up playing Bruno's old role as an AM behind the striker and dropping into midfield when we dont have the ball. He's pretty slow and clumsy and I swear he hardly ever gets proper contact on the ball in the air. Its usually a glance instead of a clearing header in midfield. He's okay with his linkup passing to set our attackers going. He's no threat at all in the box.
I don't think he's doing anything Donny Van De Beek wouldnt be doing if he was fit. So far he's a shit Joelinton, striker signed and then plays in midfield. But Joelinton is doing well and Weghorst looks like a fan won a competition
He ends up playing Bruno's old role as an AM behind the striker and dropping into midfield when we dont have the ball. He's pretty slow and clumsy and I swear he hardly ever gets proper contact on the ball in the air. Its usually a glance instead of a clearing header in midfield. He's okay with his linkup passing to set our attackers going. He's no threat at all in the box.
I don't think he's doing anything Donny Van De Beek wouldnt be doing if he was fit. So far he's a shit Joelinton, striker signed and then plays in midfield. But Joelinton is doing well and Weghorst looks like a fan won a competition
He was ok in the first half, but still feels weird having that one guy on the pitch who is well below the level of everyone else
Can we stop this experiment?
I honestly think Feyenoord currently has a better first choice striker than Manchester United 
I mean Santiago Gimenez is definitely no top player, but at least he's young. And scores goals.
I mean Santiago Gimenez is definitely no top player, but at least he's young. And scores goals.
A forward who carries 0 threat in attack. Sums it up.
He is not the reason we lose or win. He’s just completely inconsequential.
Waste of a starting spot. We usually start our best 11 when he comes off. ETH for some reason waited until 3-0.
Agree there
Weirdly enough he was our best player today. That says it all!
Sums up the Glazernomics era. Always fall short in backing the new manager and making him dependent on the likes of Martial. This time they really outdone themselves signing this guy. Totally out of his depth despite his great attitude.
It is just so ridiculous that this guy is a United player
Needs to stop starting.
There were some on here saying we should permanently sign him. Madness.
There were some on here saying we should permanently sign him. Madness.
I've said this since he came in. People wank themselves because he presses/tackles well, but for that you might as well play any DM up front and call them a striker at that point. Not to mention we have to accomodate for how fecking slow he is by playing him behind Rashford so we have an actual threat in the middle, along with meaning it ships Bruno out wide.
It's a fecking joke that people want this guy signed full time.
On loan from Burnley turns out to be not very good ….who’d have guessed
How many shots has he had since he's been here?
Martial needs to stop being an utter pansy and play through a bit of pain.
He can be decent squad player when playing average teams but he cannot start against a team like Liverpool that have that kind of pace. There is a reason his career has gone in the direction it has.
Works his arse off but the reality is you can't keep playing with a striker that's literally no threat at all.
I know he played deeper today but that says it all really.
I know he played deeper today but that says it all really.
Ive backed him lately and thought hes made some good contributions. Today the game passed him by and his lack of quality was evident. He needs to work on his heading, for giant he is very poor at jumping.
carzy hes keeping Sancho and Garnacho on the bench and we are playing palyers out of position to accomodate him at 10 ..
carzy hes keeping Sancho and Garnacho on the bench and we are playing palyers out of position to accomodate him at 10 ..
We will go on a bit of a run with him starting every game, offering nothing but his ‘great attitude, great work rate’ and those people will be clamoring to sign him up again.
It’s utter madness. I know that following football at its heart is an emotional exercise and perfectly understandable if people sympathize and take a liking to a player of his ilk, but we need to be ruthless and clear headed to be where we want to be and that sure as hell doesn’t involve giving out a contract and squad place to Wout bloody Weghorst.
He certainly wasn’t the reason we lost today. He played his part in us winning our last two cup games though. So not completely inconsequential at all.
100% agree. He became a bit of a **** hero because we went on a huge run of results and he works very hard (a great combo for any player to be loved at United), but it's such a detriment to play with an attacking player that offers absolutely 0 threat going forward as a runner, dribbler, goalscorer either with his feet or in the air etc.
I feel like I've become sort of a "hater" of sorts for Wout, but I genuinely appreciate his application and he seems like a good guy. I just hate his game from a footballing perspective, and started to grow frustrated with suggestions that he's actually good enough for United or should be signed permanently as a rotational striker.
He wouldn't never start or play for Liverpool would he.
Would Ricky Lambert?
As we saw against Barca he just isn't in the game enough against the big teams and for a striker (or even a ten) he has zero shots on goal virtually every match.
Think he does a really good job against some teams but you just wish Martial was fully fit and committed, it would be such a big help and it would also mean that Wout could come off the bench against tired teams.
Think he does a really good job against some teams but you just wish Martial was fully fit and committed, it would be such a big help and it would also mean that Wout could come off the bench against tired teams.
I want him at best made to 3rd choice in the summer (and we sign 2 strikers) or he be shipped out, WW was supposed to be a back up option (I presume) but has been left first choice because Tony is never available
I have absolutely no problems with his attitude and work rate, but unfortunately at the top level I hope we want to get back to, it's not enough
No longer acceptable to play him especially if he isn’t even playing as a striker.
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