Acrobat7
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Good luck on the next 11 years of being a Newbie.I dunno, I think it's more about not bending to a mob calling for someones head, whoever that someone is.
Good luck on the next 11 years of being a Newbie.I dunno, I think it's more about not bending to a mob calling for someones head, whoever that someone is.
As far as I recall they've been covering for him from the start. It was them who put out the statement that the player said were not her words. They're going way beyond defending him as well. They're threatening to sue her knowing that they have way more money than her and could cost her a fortune in the courts.Not the whole fiasco, just on why they are defending him now.
Cheers.Good luck on the next 11 years of being a Newbie.
I responded to your awful post, the words that were written. It's no one's fault but yours if you left that stupid comment and then didn't embellish.You don't know what my views are on the whole situation. We probably agree more than we disagree. Silly of you to make a post like that without knowing what my view is on the whole.
I'm not saying they haven't defended him. Edit: I'm also not saying they are right to defend him. I'm just saying that for them it's probably more about not giving in to public pressure no matter who the man in question is. That's why they seem to be taking this so far. If it was just about Rubiales I think they'd give in soon or later.As far as I recall they've been covering for him from the start. It was them who put out the statement that the player said were not her words. They're going way beyond defending him as well. They're threatening to sue her knowing that they have way more money than her and could cost her a fortune in the courts.
Have I missed something where they didn't defend him? It must have been quite short lived.
Yeah truly awful, I hope you recover from this. Pathetic.I responded to your awful post, the words that were written. It's no one's fault but yours if you left that stupid comment and then didn't embellish.
That might make sense as a general rule, but how would it make sense in this specific instance? Cause 'the mob' is not necessarily wrong you know.I dunno, I think it's more about not bending to a mob calling for someones head, whoever that someone is.
Yeah, I wouldn't say it's commendable either, but I do think that's what the Spanish FA think they're doing.The forum these days is so full of bright, unprejudiced freethinkers who are just asking questions, it's great.
Jokes aside, I'm Spanish, live in Spain at the moment, and can 100% guarantee without the faintest shadow of a doubt that there isn't the tiniest shred of anything noble in anything Rubiales or their camp have said or done since the kiss. Interpreting any part of this as commendable civic resistance to PC gone mad is either ill-timed wumming or something much worse.
A mobI dunno, I think it's more about not bending to a mob calling for someones head, whoever that someone is.
You are the one talking about "mobs" as if it's justification.Yeah truly awful, I hope you recover from this. Pathetic.
OK I think I understand what you are saying, your wording tripped you up with everyone.Yeah, I wouldn't say it's commendable either, but I do think that's what the Spanish FA think they're doing.
Well... You're part of the mob. Of course you'd deny it's existence.A mob
They're defending him cos he gave them their jobs.Not the whole fiasco, just on why they are defending him now.
Nail on the head.OK I think I understand what you are saying, your wording tripped you up with everyone.
My take on what you are saying is the Spanish FA are pushing back against what they think is mob rule. You dont think its mob rule but were indicating thats what they think? Am I on the right track?
Somewhere above there's an article that claims Rubiales and some of his cronies had orgies using Spanish federation money. Could be that a whole lot of them will come down with Rubiales if he does go.Nail on the head.
Someone mentioned that it was "all to protect a single dude. " I think the Spanish FA think if they give in here with this guy they could all be vulnerable in some way. That's not me agreeing with them, but that's why I think they are digging their heels in here.
That’s the rats finally deserting the sinking ship. Something not right with this whole debacle, beyond the initial disgrace itself. Don’t think he’ll go quietly and if he does then there will be big money involved and a sneaky background job.Tweet
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Spanish FA seems to have a history with appointing men that don't really do well with women for the women's NT.Nail on the head.
Someone mentioned that it was "all to protect a single dude. " I think the Spanish FA think if they give in here with this guy they could all be vulnerable in some way. That's not me agreeing with them, but that's why I think they are digging their heels in here.
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The English players are called Lionesses because of the lion thing, these players are Spanish.What a mess. Blown out of all proportion. For what it's worth (nothing) I'd imagine he's a liar and didn't ask for consent, she lifted him and he just gave the kiss in the heat of the moment. That said there's no evidence either way, and the idea of the courts wasting time on a 'sexual violence' investigation on a publicly available he said/she said issue is about as ludicrous as the cops investigating every time I've had my ass grabbed or boobs stuck in my face in a nightclub.
He should have just apologised, eaten humble pie, and admit he fecked up in the excitement, and moved on and perhaps kept his job. Guardiola etc are always kissing [guys] without asking permission. It didn't have to be a huge deal. He has to go now obviously and is a prick for threatening legal action.
The whole societal schism thing does perturb me though somewhat. I enjoy woman's cricket because it's just cricket, they aren't men (and yea sure they'd get destroyed by men [but not me, i got smacked for 10 in an over last week by a girl!]) but the narrative isn't that they are 'brave women roaring' - they are just cricketers. Similarly the commentators comment on cricket, whereas in football it seems to have become somewhat of a political football and drama. Nobody wants that in their lives, and it's probably fuel to the right wing who complain about 'woke' culture. I think woman's football would be eminently more watchable [for me] if it was about the football.
I know, and you know that I know. Aware my post isn't likely to be popular, but I do feel that there's a narrative built which isn't for the men, 'because they are women' as opposed to 'because they are footballers' and that gender commentary is a big part of woman football media coverage - a quick google does show that the roar example isn't a good one though; tabloids regularly use the term for morocco and english men.The English players are called Lionesses because of the lion thing, these players are Spanish.
Yes, they're called Lionesses because the men's team nickname is the Three Lions, and, you know, the song. The Spanish team have taken their nickname from the Spanish men's team, the French from the French, and so on.I know, and you know that I know. Aware my post isn't likely to be popular, but I do feel that there's a narrative built which isn't for the men, 'because they are women' as opposed to 'because they are footballers' and that gender commentary is a big part of woman football media coverage - a quick google does show that the roar example isn't a good one though; tabloids regularly use the term for morocco and english men.
Only narrative that's true is that guy is a creep predator and should be taken off his duty. And Spanish FA is corrupt old boys club that does shady things.I know, and you know that I know. Aware my post isn't likely to be popular, but I do feel that there's a narrative built which isn't for the men, 'because they are women' as opposed to 'because they are footballers' and that gender commentary is a big part of woman football media coverage - a quick google does show that the roar example isn't a good one though; tabloids regularly use the term for morocco and english men.
The gender commentary is a big part of of the media coverage because creeps like rubiales exist. Do you think these players are enjoying this media attention? They would love to be giving interviews about their great achievement and visiting their hometowns to be welcomed as heroes. But a man decided to be a creep and make the whole thing about him.I know, and you know that I know. Aware my post isn't likely to be popular, but I do feel that there's a narrative built which isn't for the men, 'because they are women' as opposed to 'because they are footballers' and that gender commentary is a big part of woman football media coverage - a quick google does show that the roar example isn't a good one though; tabloids regularly use the term for morocco and english men.
cant keep up with this soap opera anymore
did we ever establish if those photos of Hermoso lifting Rubiales were doctored or not?
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Based on the president, it seems none of them do well with women.Spanish FA seems to have a history with appointing men that don't really do well with women for the women's NT.
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That was me - and yes, that was too simplistic. You're most likely right (as others have said) that Rubiales has a loyal group around him that would fall like dominoes once things get going and dirty laundry really gets aired. Plus yes, they might be digging in by now, unwilling to agree to anything all those proles (probably how they look at the world) are saying.Someone mentioned that it was "all to protect a single dude. " I think the Spanish FA think if they give in here with this guy they could all be vulnerable in some way. That's not me agreeing with them, but that's why I think they are digging their heels in here.
I think maybe in this case the long history of difficulties the womens game in Spain has finally reached boiling point.This all has spit balled massively for something that would have all been forgotten if they just made a statement about getting caught up in the moment blah blah, and apologized. It really does baffle me how some people and organisations feel the need to double down and continually try to defend these types of situations.
What a mess. Blown out of all proportion. For what it's worth (nothing) I'd imagine he's a liar and didn't ask for consent, she lifted him and he just gave the kiss in the heat of the moment. That said there's no evidence either way, and the idea of the courts wasting time on a 'sexual violence' investigation on a publicly available he said/she said issue is about as ludicrous as the cops investigating every time I've had my ass grabbed or boobs stuck in my face in a nightclub.
He should have just apologised, eaten humble pie, and admit he fecked up in the excitement, and moved on and perhaps kept his job. Guardiola etc are always kissing [guys] without asking permission. It didn't have to be a huge deal. He has to go now obviously and is a prick for threatening legal action.
The whole societal schism thing does perturb me though somewhat. I enjoy woman's cricket because it's just cricket, they aren't men (and yea sure they'd get destroyed by men [but not me, i got smacked for 10 in an over last week by a girl!]) but the narrative isn't that they are 'brave women roaring' - they are just cricketers. Similarly the commentators comment on cricket, whereas in football it seems to have become somewhat of a political football and drama. Nobody wants that in their lives, and it's probably fuel to the right wing who complain about 'woke' culture. I think woman's football would be eminently more watchable [for me] if it was about the football.
Agree. If he just said "oops im sorry i got too excited is the heat of moment cause its the first ever women WC for us so proud of the team etc etc" this will just blow away imo.This all has spit balled massively for something that would have all been forgotten if they just made a statement about getting caught up in the moment blah blah, and apologized. It really does baffle me how some people and organisations feel the need to double down and continually try to defend these types of situations.
UEFA has already said that they're not allowing Rubiales to use that maneuver. Spanish clubs will remain in the competition.I'm sure there's an amount of siege mentality at play now... the appeal to non political interference has been agitated a couple of times (in France IIRC) to stifle sensible public intervention in the federation's affair.
Don't feel sorry for the Spanish FA though, seems all the chickens came home to roost for their failure to correct issues that have been boiling for a year at least.
Threatening to retreat from UEFA competition is especially daft. I can't imagine Real would be pleased about that.
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