Joba's a cnut?
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I believe N y F is referring to A-Rod, not Joba.Joba's a cnut?
Kennedy pitched a gem tonight, but the game is still 1-1 in the down of the 8th.
yes. so is a-rod.Joba's a cnut?
He wasn't trying to hit Youkilis you know.
Ball game.
Big hurt wins it in the 9th.
Big hurt wins it in the 9th.
Twins general manager Terry Ryan has resigned after 13 years.
This guy is g-o-o-d. I wonder which teams will go at him hard.
This guy is g-o-o-d. I wonder which teams will go at him hard.
Wait! He says he's staying with the organization as a senior advisor, working with the scouting department.
Get them out of Florida already.
Noy has banned himself. Just before our series with the sawks too.
And in typical self-absorbed, whinging Boston thinking, they fail to notice Dyke-K started it all by beaning ARod. But let's not focus on that and talk about Joba going after some crap Boston hitter.
Okajima & Papelbon 
Come out, come out, wherever you are, Noy
Wang vs Beckett. Battle for the Cy Young. Bring it on Sawks!!
Magnificent comeback last night. Everyone's favorite scapegoat ARod comes through with the game winner.
10-1 yesterday afternoon. Sox crushed the MFYs like beetles. Rubber game is on ESPN tonight methinks.
4-2 .top of the ninth. Jeter with a 3 run homerin the 8th.
4-3 final. Ortiz had a chance with the bases loaded in the ninth.
Some nervy stuff from our bullpen but a good win to take the series from the cnuts.
Some nervy stuff from our bullpen but a good win to take the series from the cnuts.
These guys are going to give me a heart attack before the playoffs begin.
I despise the Yankees. It is an inherited trait from my father who supported the Brooklyn Dodgers.
Me too and I had just finished watching the 49ers/Rams gamewhere we won thanks to a fluffed punt return and the rams had a 53 yarder with 50 seconds left go wide.
Think that's bad, imagine being a (low-life, despicable numpty) Raiders fan today. The drunken Polish kicker smacks a long field goal to win the game in OT but just before the snap, the Broncos called timeout. His retaken kick hits the top of the upright - that kick would have had the distance at 60 yards. But it was slightly to the left. The Broncos then run the ball down Oakland's throat and Elams kicks a game winner.
Back to the thread, what a monster blast by Jeter. Wow. Then I thought Rivera was going to have a meltdown which he's been known to do against Boston. Just had that feeling Ortiz was going to turn on a pitch and hit a walk off slam.
No thank you.
Anyways the yankees won again today while Boston and Detroit lost.
3.5 games right now.
The Mets are playing terrible as well. Philly is 2.5 games back.
the big hurt slammed three homers against bosox last night, he seems to be one of the positive points of the season thus far (although not much long before playoffs). GO METS
Another win coupled with a sox loss.
2.5 games back... UH OH... IT'S COMING!
loving it....Yanks stomp the O's with the Sux and Tigers both lose...excellent
Eric (Gas Can) Gagne, secret weapon of the Yanks.
Don't laugh, he's on George's payroll...
Don't laugh, he's on George's payroll...
1.5 games.
Faltering bullpen at root of Boston's struggles
By Sean McAdam
Special to ESPN.com
Updated: September 20, 2007
Not long ago, their lead was oversized, roomy, comfortable.
Now, with just over a week remaining in the regular season, it's suddenly snug, tight, constricting.
The talk that they are creating an unwanted sequel to 1978 has grown from background chatter to white noise they can't completely tune out.
The Red Sox, of course, aren't concerned with history. There are plenty of players on their roster who weren't yet born when the Yankees overtook Boston 29 years ago this fall and many more still who don't care about the past.
These Sox are interested only in the present, which admittedly doesn't look good. Not after being swept in Toronto, extending their skid to four straight losses and five defeats in the past six games.
Most of all, there's the matter of what fictional Yankees employee George Costanza of "Seinfeld" fame would call "shrinkage." The Boston lead in the AL East over the second-place Yanks was seven games less than three weeks ago, but has shriveled to a mere game and a half -- and only one in the loss column.
How did the Red Sox get themselves in this predicament?
Start at the end and work backward. The bullpen, so airtight for the first four months of the season, has imploded. Through their first 116 games, the Sox lost just twice in games they led after seven innings, but they've done that twice in the past six games.
Over the past eight games, the bullpen's ERA is 6.20. Over the past 19 games, the bullpen's ERA is 4.98.
Eric Gagne, obtained at the July 31 trade deadline to augment the setup crew, has been a spectacular failure, compiling a 9.00 ERA in 15 appearances. Hideki Okajima, a revelation through the middle of August, has been shut down because of fatigue and has allowed multiple runs in three of his past seven outings -- something he didn't do once in his first 57 major league appearances.
Even nonpareil closer Jonathan Papelbon has dipped. Papelbon didn't allow an inherited run until last Friday, but he has given up five in his past two outings.
Wednesday night, Papelbon labeled the bullpen downturn "hard to believe because we have been so good. We've got to keep grinding it out. Unfortunately for us, the bullpen is going through a tough time at a tough time in the season."
The offense hasn't been much better. Six times in the past nine games, the Sox have been limited to three runs or fewer. Rookie Jacoby Ellsbury has been a late-season spark, hitting safely in 16 of his past 17 games, but he can't replace Manny Ramirez (oblique strain), whose absence this month has thinned out the lineup.
David Ortiz is just 1-for-14 with seven strikeouts in the past four games in part because his balky right knee is killing him and restricting him at the plate. He needs a day off, but with the offense sputtering, the Sox haven't been able to give him one.
Through it all, the Red Sox, who for all their fumbling need to win only three games out of their final nine to clinch a postseason spot, have been trying to rest their starting pitchers and set up a semblance of a playoff rotation.
Daisuke Matsuzaka, with one win in his past seven outings, will pitch Saturday on seven days' rest. Curt Schilling's next start will come eight days after his most recent outing.
That sets up 19-game winner Josh Beckett as the playoff opener, to be followed by either Matsuzaka or Schilling, depending on the final week and the opponent.
"We have to prove what kind of team we are. ... Everyone's got to take a reliever's mentality -- shake it off. It's over with. We lost; we can't change it."
--Red Sox reliever Mike Timlin
The Sox learned the hard way about the importance of setting up the rotation for October. In 2005, they didn't clinch a playoff berth until the last day of the season and had to open the AL Division Series with Matt Clement, arguably their fifth-best starter. Clement withered in Game 1 and the Sox never recovered; they were steamrolled by the Chicago White Sox in three straight games
The rotation machinations have led to the suggestion that the Sox are getting ahead of themselves, since they haven't clinched a playoff spot, much less the division.
But that's not how manager Terry Francona sees it.
"First place means a lot," Francona said this week, "because that's what we set as our goal at the beginning of the season. But it doesn't mean much [when it comes to winning] a World Series."
That's tough to argue, since home-field advantage hasn't translated into much of a postseason advantage in recent years. As for the wild card, baseball had a stretch in 2002-04 in which the World Series champions didn't win their own division.
A new perk this postseason for the team with the league's best record is being able to choose which division series playoff schedule it wants (either Game 1, off day, Game 2 or Game 1, Game 2 and then the off day). What of this advantage for the team with the most wins?
"I'm more concerned with how we play rather [than] where and when," Francona said succinctly.
Still, there's work to be done and a turnaround to be executed for a team that has held onto first place every day since April 18.
"This is when a team has to pull together," said shortstop Julio Lugo after the Sox were swept by Toronto. "From now on, you're going to see who's who. That's it."
"We have to prove what kind of team we are," added veteran reliever Mike Timlin. "We need to have momentum going into the playoffs. Every team does. Everyone's got to take a reliever's mentality -- shake it off. It's over with. We lost; we can't change it. We'll regroup and play the best we can against Tampa. That's all we can do."
Sean McAdam of The Providence (R.I.) Journal covers baseball for ESPN.com.
By Sean McAdam
Special to ESPN.com
Updated: September 20, 2007
Not long ago, their lead was oversized, roomy, comfortable.
Now, with just over a week remaining in the regular season, it's suddenly snug, tight, constricting.
The talk that they are creating an unwanted sequel to 1978 has grown from background chatter to white noise they can't completely tune out.
The Red Sox, of course, aren't concerned with history. There are plenty of players on their roster who weren't yet born when the Yankees overtook Boston 29 years ago this fall and many more still who don't care about the past.
These Sox are interested only in the present, which admittedly doesn't look good. Not after being swept in Toronto, extending their skid to four straight losses and five defeats in the past six games.
Most of all, there's the matter of what fictional Yankees employee George Costanza of "Seinfeld" fame would call "shrinkage." The Boston lead in the AL East over the second-place Yanks was seven games less than three weeks ago, but has shriveled to a mere game and a half -- and only one in the loss column.
How did the Red Sox get themselves in this predicament?
Start at the end and work backward. The bullpen, so airtight for the first four months of the season, has imploded. Through their first 116 games, the Sox lost just twice in games they led after seven innings, but they've done that twice in the past six games.
Over the past eight games, the bullpen's ERA is 6.20. Over the past 19 games, the bullpen's ERA is 4.98.
Eric Gagne, obtained at the July 31 trade deadline to augment the setup crew, has been a spectacular failure, compiling a 9.00 ERA in 15 appearances. Hideki Okajima, a revelation through the middle of August, has been shut down because of fatigue and has allowed multiple runs in three of his past seven outings -- something he didn't do once in his first 57 major league appearances.
Even nonpareil closer Jonathan Papelbon has dipped. Papelbon didn't allow an inherited run until last Friday, but he has given up five in his past two outings.
Wednesday night, Papelbon labeled the bullpen downturn "hard to believe because we have been so good. We've got to keep grinding it out. Unfortunately for us, the bullpen is going through a tough time at a tough time in the season."
The offense hasn't been much better. Six times in the past nine games, the Sox have been limited to three runs or fewer. Rookie Jacoby Ellsbury has been a late-season spark, hitting safely in 16 of his past 17 games, but he can't replace Manny Ramirez (oblique strain), whose absence this month has thinned out the lineup.
David Ortiz is just 1-for-14 with seven strikeouts in the past four games in part because his balky right knee is killing him and restricting him at the plate. He needs a day off, but with the offense sputtering, the Sox haven't been able to give him one.
Through it all, the Red Sox, who for all their fumbling need to win only three games out of their final nine to clinch a postseason spot, have been trying to rest their starting pitchers and set up a semblance of a playoff rotation.
Daisuke Matsuzaka, with one win in his past seven outings, will pitch Saturday on seven days' rest. Curt Schilling's next start will come eight days after his most recent outing.
That sets up 19-game winner Josh Beckett as the playoff opener, to be followed by either Matsuzaka or Schilling, depending on the final week and the opponent.
"We have to prove what kind of team we are. ... Everyone's got to take a reliever's mentality -- shake it off. It's over with. We lost; we can't change it."
--Red Sox reliever Mike Timlin
The Sox learned the hard way about the importance of setting up the rotation for October. In 2005, they didn't clinch a playoff berth until the last day of the season and had to open the AL Division Series with Matt Clement, arguably their fifth-best starter. Clement withered in Game 1 and the Sox never recovered; they were steamrolled by the Chicago White Sox in three straight games
The rotation machinations have led to the suggestion that the Sox are getting ahead of themselves, since they haven't clinched a playoff spot, much less the division.
But that's not how manager Terry Francona sees it.
"First place means a lot," Francona said this week, "because that's what we set as our goal at the beginning of the season. But it doesn't mean much [when it comes to winning] a World Series."
That's tough to argue, since home-field advantage hasn't translated into much of a postseason advantage in recent years. As for the wild card, baseball had a stretch in 2002-04 in which the World Series champions didn't win their own division.
A new perk this postseason for the team with the league's best record is being able to choose which division series playoff schedule it wants (either Game 1, off day, Game 2 or Game 1, Game 2 and then the off day). What of this advantage for the team with the most wins?
"I'm more concerned with how we play rather [than] where and when," Francona said succinctly.
Still, there's work to be done and a turnaround to be executed for a team that has held onto first place every day since April 18.
"This is when a team has to pull together," said shortstop Julio Lugo after the Sox were swept by Toronto. "From now on, you're going to see who's who. That's it."
"We have to prove what kind of team we are," added veteran reliever Mike Timlin. "We need to have momentum going into the playoffs. Every team does. Everyone's got to take a reliever's mentality -- shake it off. It's over with. We lost; we can't change it. We'll regroup and play the best we can against Tampa. That's all we can do."
Sean McAdam of The Providence (R.I.) Journal covers baseball for ESPN.com.
It's very similar to how Detroit dominated the first 100 games last season and faded in September allowing Minnesota to steal the division in the last week. They found that extra gear in October only to slump when it mattered most - against St Louis.
The Red Sox recent travails reminds me of this quote by Lucretius:
"It is pleasant, when the sea is high and the winds are dashing the waves about, to watch from the shores the struggles of another."
"It is pleasant, when the sea is high and the winds are dashing the waves about, to watch from the shores the struggles of another."
Down 4-0 we score four runs in the bottom of the ninth to tie it up. game is now in the 12th inning. Boston already won their game.
Came close but not close enough. Boston and Detroit both won so it was a bad day.
Another marathon game, this time with us winning. Hopefully Boston lose and the lead is down to 1.5.
Sorry to disappoint you: Sox 8, Rays 6.