I never thought he would be sold. If welbeck and Hernandez failed to shine who else would be left apart from Rooney. Also don't discount Berba insistence he wanted to see out his contract.
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Not unless Fergie said he was considering selling Berbatov, who replied "there is no way I'm leaving Man Utd and moving to PSG". If he said he'd prefer to be a bit part player at United than a first teamer at PSG then I'm sure Fergie would accept it. At the end of the day he is probably our best striker technically, but because of his attitude or style or laziness or whatever you want to call it, he's 5th choice.
I'm still convinced that we'll get rid in January and if not he'll leave for nothing in the Summer.
Dwight Yorke stuck at Utd for 2 seasons even though Fergie wanted him out. Simply because he did not want to sign for another club. Eventually he took the hint though.
I see quite a few similarities in the way Berbatov has been used this calander year to Yorke towards the end of his Utd career. Oh and in the press Fergie continued to say good things about Yorke too whilst he was a Utd player.
It was not until after he left and a few players revealed that Yorke was very much out of favour
I see quite a few similarities in the way Berbatov has been used this calander year to Yorke towards the end of his Utd career. Oh and in the press Fergie continued to say good things about Yorke too whilst he was a Utd player.
It was not until after he left and a few players revealed that Yorke was very much out of favour
Is correct, Evra is just talking shite.
So basically you think that Berba refused to leave in the Summer and SAF is just lying when he says that he has no intention of selling him? Because that sounds to me like the view of someone who believes what they want to believe.
Same can be said of you
But from the outside looking in I know what sound more realistic
We will find out within the next 9 months though.
Your view sounds the same.
The fact is, non of us know and obviously we have to draw our own conclusions.
One thing is certain, there is something, or a combination of things about SAF's record signing that SAF doesn't like right now. That's doesn't mean he wants him to leave or that he wants to sell him asap, it just puts him down Fergie's list of importance in the squad.
Randall you have been predicting his imminent departure for at least the last two (perhaps three or four) transfer windows so you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Contrast that to my own predictions on the matter.
Although there are reasons for why some people think Berba struggles here (style of play, needs to be focal point, not enough game time, etc.), I think Berbatov has fell down Fergie's pecking order because in all honesty the man has let himself down.
We all know that Fergie's willing to give you a chance if you've proven yourself ready to play and play consistently. However, with Berba, it must be a nightmare because you're just never sure which Berba you're going to get. One thing is for sure is that if he scores he most likely will play well. I've noticed in every game that he has scored and scored relatively early, Berba comes out looking pretty good.
When that doesn't happen, that's where the enigma sets in. You have to sit there and wonder what's going to happen next. You know what he brings to the table. You know what he can do day in and day out but when he doesn't show it, you just wonder when is the next time he ever will.
Ultimately, I feel the man has let himself down. It's been rough because he didn't get much of a shout when Hernandez popped onto the scene but then again, he didn't really show much to stake his claim as a starter. He definitely has high standards for himself and regards himself as a perfectionist. Maybe that's why some people feel he should go elsewhere and be given a fresh chance in which he feel he can display his art.
It's not like him to lose the ball or give him up on shoulder to shoulder situations. It just seems he has a short fuse now as if he's the frustrated artist that no one seems to pay attention to even though the art itself is lovely. Better yet, in the case in which one blot seems to drive him mad.
If he's going to be make any sort of difference this season then I think he needs to come to terms with himself and sort out his behavior before he can expect to be adored again. Never one to bask in the limelight but then it seems he needs it for his vindication.
With Berba, you can come up with infinite amounts of conclusions and I guess that's why no one will ever be settled on this issue.
Footylatest.com 
No quotes and no specific source therefore utter tripe.
No quotes and no specific source therefore utter tripe.
Besides, £10m for a 30-year-old player with six months left on his contract? No club in their right mind would pay that.
For the billionth time, we have an option to extend the contract if we want. So it's not really the same as having six months to run.
Yeah, it's nowhere near as reliable a source as Sockybootkick.co.uk.Footylatest.com
Those guys are principled journalists.Yeah, it's nowhere near as reliable a source as Sockybootkick.co.uk.
Except if Berbatov does not want to extend his contract.
He doesn't have a choice.
I'm fairly certain that's not how it works, it's our option therefore another year gets added at the same terms as his current contract.
A good offer and i'd be surprised if he's here after Jan.
Clear?
What's the betting that's not the last time this needs to be clarified?
I've posted it before. Give it a day.
So, you think if he tells Gill and Fergie he does not want to extend his contract, we'll force that one additional season on him?
Yeah, right, that's how football works.
Yeah, right, that's how football works.
Of course we will. You really think we'd let him leave on a free when we can extend for a year?
Yeah, right, that's how football works.
Or, you know, maybe we can sell him in January? Just not for 10m. Nobody would pay that amount next summer either.Of course we will. You really think we'd let him leave on a free when we can extend for a year?
Yeah, right, that's how football works.
Why do you want to sell him?
are you in the right thread, this is about berbatov.
This thread enrages me
It's not about what I want, we're discussing the hypothetical scenario that Berbatov might not want to extend his contract and that potential suitors might be aware of that fact which would reduce his value, regardless of our option to extend it.
But if we don't play him anyway, we could free up some wages by letting him go. It's not like we don't have enough strikers to play in Carling Cup games.
Dont worry this time next year we will have no need to be discussing the matter.
That's what you said last year.
Anzhi probably would.
As has been established, it is not up to him.
See above.
Why do you give a shit about freeing up some wages? Are we skint and I am not aware of it?
You just keep ignoring reality, Lance.
Fact is, if he wants to leave because of not getting enough games, then clubs interested in signing him will be aware of it. They will know that even if we extend that contract, we'll be stuck with an unhappy player who we don't really need; hence we won't get huge money (huge in this case equals anything above 8m I'd say) for him. That's it. That's why it's relevant that his contract is expiring, even if we have the option to extend it.
And wages are expenses, cutting down on unnecessary expenses are crucial in any business. I guess he earns about 4m a year, that might be better spent on a player who actually plays.
Fact is, if he wants to leave because of not getting enough games, then clubs interested in signing him will be aware of it. They will know that even if we extend that contract, we'll be stuck with an unhappy player who we don't really need; hence we won't get huge money (huge in this case equals anything above 8m I'd say) for him. That's it. That's why it's relevant that his contract is expiring, even if we have the option to extend it.
And wages are expenses, cutting down on unnecessary expenses are crucial in any business. I guess he earns about 4m a year, that might be better spent on a player who actually plays.
Reality? You are the one dealing in hypotheticals, not me.
Well, if Berbatov wants to stay and we want him to stay, then his sell-on value isn't really an issue. It only is if he wants to go or United want to sell. In that case, all I posted above applies.
Diouf would have done better today, I'm sorry.
Absolutely terrible from Berbatov today. He was brought on to keep the ball and did the complete opposite.
Saying that, I'd like to see Berbatov start alongside Rooney again.
Absolutely terrible from Berbatov today. He was brought on to keep the ball and did the complete opposite.
Saying that, I'd like to see Berbatov start alongside Rooney again.
It's rare for Berbatov to be ever effective when coming off the bench.
He is a player who doesnt know if he is coming or going. And he looks it - and thats what he is!
He has been beyond shocking in his bit part performances this season (except for his outing against Aldershot) But I can understand why due to his current squad status, not just now but basically since last January and especially for him the biggest kick in the nuts the Champions League Final.
Will he get a proper chance again this season? There are 2 CL games and one League Cup game this side of xmas - If he is given the opportunity he has to take them because that will surely lead to chances in the PL. And with 5 handy-ish league games in the league this December he actually could shock us all (well me anyway) and go on a bit of a run.
There is no question he is out of favour with Fergie. And now those who believed it was only because he is Rooney's replacement can forget that, because Welbeck started today with Hernandez.
But it is up to Berbatov. Believe it or not coming from me I really hope he takes his chance because it infuriates me looking at him sitting on the bench and when actually played sulks, pisses and moans at everyone in earshot...
Berbatov. We paid £30 million for half a season. fecking do something and show us you want to be a Manchester Utd player.
He has been beyond shocking in his bit part performances this season (except for his outing against Aldershot) But I can understand why due to his current squad status, not just now but basically since last January and especially for him the biggest kick in the nuts the Champions League Final.
Will he get a proper chance again this season? There are 2 CL games and one League Cup game this side of xmas - If he is given the opportunity he has to take them because that will surely lead to chances in the PL. And with 5 handy-ish league games in the league this December he actually could shock us all (well me anyway) and go on a bit of a run.
There is no question he is out of favour with Fergie. And now those who believed it was only because he is Rooney's replacement can forget that, because Welbeck started today with Hernandez.
But it is up to Berbatov. Believe it or not coming from me I really hope he takes his chance because it infuriates me looking at him sitting on the bench and when actually played sulks, pisses and moans at everyone in earshot...
Berbatov. We paid £30 million for half a season. fecking do something and show us you want to be a Manchester Utd player.
Or when played as the lone striker, or when asked to play very deep, or when played with Rooney, or when played away from fecking home.
When is he effective?