He was top scorer last year.Or when played as the lone striker, or when asked to play very deep, or when played with Rooney, or when played away from fecking home.
When is he effective?
He was top scorer last year.Or when played as the lone striker, or when asked to play very deep, or when played with Rooney, or when played away from fecking home.
When is he effective?
When he is finishes a season as United's EPL top scorer. That's when....Or when played as the lone striker, or when asked to play very deep, or when played with Rooney, or when played away from fecking home.
When is he effective?
I think it has become clear by now that he won't play an important part in this team regardless of his goalscoring form and overall performances. He was dropped and pushed back to 4th striker halfway through last season after scoring 20 goals in just over 20 games, he's not going to suddenly fit in Ferguson's plans. That's why I am a bit surprised we didn't let him go in the Summer, it would have been a good move for all parts involved.He is a player who doesnt know if he is coming or going. And he looks it - and thats what he is!
He has been beyond shocking in his bit part performances this season (except for his outing against Aldershot) But I can understand why due to his current squad status, not just now but basically since last January and especially for him the biggest kick in the nuts the Champions League Final.
Will he get a proper chance again this season? There are 2 CL games and one League Cup game this side of xmas - If he is given the opportunity he has to take them because that will surely lead to chances in the PL. And with 5 handy-ish league games in the league this December he actually could shock us all (well me anyway) and go on a bit of a run.
There is no question he is out of favour with Fergie. And now those who believed it was only because he is Rooney's replacement can forget that, because Welbeck started today with Hernandez.
But it is up to Berbatov. Believe it or not coming from me I really hope he takes his chance because it infuriates me looking at him sitting on the bench and when actually played sulks, pisses and moans at everyone in earshot...
Berbatov. We paid £30 million for half a season. fecking do something and show us you want to be a Manchester Utd player.
Well, not to be nitpicking but he was effective for a month at the start of the season then for another month from December 26. And there was the Blackburn game on its own in the wilderness on November 27.He was effective for half a season, you can't take that away from him.
The second paragraph is absolutely bullshit. Amazing revisionism from some here, he has been average this season in the rare chances he has got, but let's not take away the fact that he was very good last season(well in the first half). We wouldn't have won the title without Berba last season.Well, not to be nitpicking but he was effective for a month at the start of the season then for another month from December 26. And there was the Blackburn game on its own in the wilderness on November 27.
Basically, he wasn't much better last season than in any of his previous campaigns at United. He scored in 11 league games, the same amount as in 2009/10... Three exceptional games seems to have led to the perception that he was brilliant. He was his usual self for most of the season.
o lawdWell, not to be nitpicking but he was effective for a month at the start of the season then for another month from December 26. And there was the Blackburn game on its own in the wilderness on November 27.
Basically, he wasn't much better last season than in any of his previous campaigns at United. He scored in 11 league games, the same amount as in 2009/10... Three exceptional games seems to have led to the perception that he was brilliant. He was his usual self for most of the season.
The fact that he had more winning goals than anyone else in the league probably contributed to this perception too. He was pretty handy in helping us win the league, when you think about it.Well, not to be nitpicking but he was effective for a month at the start of the season then for another month from December 26. And there was the Blackburn game on its own in the wilderness on November 27.
Basically, he wasn't much better last season than in any of his previous campaigns at United. He scored in 11 league games, the same amount as in 2009/10... Three exceptional games seems to have led to the perception that he was brilliant. He was his usual self for most of the season.
The last sentence is certainly true, I never disputed that.The second paragraph is absolutely bullshit. Amazing revisionism from some here, he has been average this season in the rare chances he has got, but let's not take away the fact that he was very good last season(well in the first half). We wouldn't have won the title without Berba last season.
Not to be nitpicking but if Berba hadn't played for us last season, we wouldn't have won our 19th titleWell, not to be nitpicking but he was effective for a month at the start of the season then for another month from December 26. And there was the Blackburn game on its own in the wilderness on November 27.
Basically, he wasn't much better last season than in any of his previous campaigns at United. He scored in 11 league games, the same amount as in 2009/10... Three exceptional games seems to have led to the perception that he was brilliant. He was his usual self for most of the season.
It's true. People can laugh at you all they want but the fact of the matter is that Berbatov is right down the pecking order even after this supposed great season. The people that have levelled criticism at Berbatov, or his haters, as they are called, get proven right time and time again.Well, not to be nitpicking but he was effective for a month at the start of the season then for another month from December 26. And there was the Blackburn game on its own in the wilderness on November 27.
Basically, he wasn't much better last season than in any of his previous campaigns at United. He scored in 11 league games, the same amount as in 2009/10... Three exceptional games seems to have led to the perception that he was brilliant. He was his usual self for most of the season.
Assuming, of course, that we wouldn't have had another striker in the squad instead of him.Not to be nitpicking but if Berba hadn't played for us last season, we wouldn't have won our 19th title
Proven right in what way exactly ?It's true. People can laugh at you all they want but the fact of the matter is that Berbatov is right down the pecking order even after this supposed great season. The people that have levelled criticism at Berbatov, or his haters, as they are called, get proven right time and time again.
But we didn't though did we? Do you hate so much that you can't even praise him for his efforts in helping us get no.19?Assuming, of course, that we wouldn't have had another striker in the squad instead of him.
That's quite a big assumption to make.Assuming, of course, that we wouldn't have had another striker in the squad instead of him.
That he doesn't fit our style, he's inconsistent, can't be trusted in big games etc. I'd say that most of them have been proven to be true now. I said that once Welbeck returned, Berbatov would be 4th choice. People took the piss, but now look.Proven right in what way exactly ?
God he hardly plays for us now yet everyone still has time to have a go at him
Why do you assume I hate him? Jesus, why people are so sensitive over Berbatov?But we didn't though did we? Do you hate so much that you can't even praise him for his efforts in helping us get no.19?
And the sometimes unjust criticism made people overly sensitive. Which is understandable to an extent.There's nobody sensitive over Berbatov, it's just that some here are too quick to criticize him for no reason.
You forgot how he is mean to his teammates because he shouts at them.Berbatov can never win on this forum.
Win the golden boot- So what, You got your goal in bunches.
Have the most winners- So what, he was just going through a purple patch.
Led our attack with nani when rooney was having a howler- so what, we could have had another striker in the squad who'd have done the same.
Show great attitude and not make a fuss about being benched- Huh. this player lacks ambition.
Do the opposite- Has a poor mentality. not willing to play his role in the squad.
There is amazing hypocrisy by some here regarding Berbatov. Many people criticized last season for saying that he didn't distributed his goals well enough but yet same criticism isn't applied to Rooney this season who has(if we take away the 2 hat-tricks) scored 3 goals in 8 matches.And the sometimes unjust criticism made people overly sensitive. Which is understandable to an extent.
See, this is another myth that keeps popping up for some reason. Berbatov's worst run of form came when Rooney was out injured and his best performances were all with Rooney in the team, apart from the turnaround at Blackpool where he was brilliant and Rooney did have a howler and got taken off.Led our attack with nani when rooney was having a howler- so what, we could have had another striker in the squad who'd have done the same.
lolPlaying the victim card. Lol
Rooney played three of those games in central midfield but I take your point.There is amazing hypocrisy by some here regarding Berbatov. Many people criticized last season for saying that he didn't distributed his goals well enough but yet same criticism isn't applied to Rooney this season who has(if we take away the 2 hat-tricks) scored 3 goals in 8 matches.
I know this logic sounds retarded, but that's what being said last season.
Then again, there's someone like Randall Fagg who hates Berbatov just because he thinks Tevez was forced out of the club because of him and sadly he wasn't the only the one in this retarded thinking their were many more.
I was referring to our start to the season and the 1st half of it when berba did the bulk of scoring. Not any single game. Rooney came to life around january when he regained his form. before that, he was hardly performing to great levels. thats the time berba was scoring goals and winning us matches. it aint a myth. had berba been off form till dec-jan, we'd have no chance of winning the league.See, this is another myth that keeps popping up for some reason. Berbatov's worst run of form came when Rooney was out injured and his best performances were all with Rooney in the team, apart from the turnaround at Blackpool where he was brilliant and Rooney did have a howler and got taken off.
2 of those games, I was talking about league only.Rooney played three of those games in central midfield but I take your point.
The thing is, nobody says Rooney had a brilliant season in 2010/11, most people will agree that he produced consistently good performances from about February onwards but he was, at best, hit and miss before. At worst, he was downright awful. Why can't the same thing apply to Berbatov? Why people insist he had a brilliant SEASON?
Swap Chicharito for Welbeck and I agree. Berbs and Chicharito have already demonstrated they are an effective partnership. And I would anticipate Welbeck would offer more than Berbs coming off the bench. I still think Chicharito has to be ahead of Welbeck in the pecking order.I'd like to see Berbatov starting some games instead of Chicharito going forward.
With Rooney in midfield I think our striking partnership of Welbeck/Chicharito lack something. I think Welbeck -Berba could be a decent partnership, and Chicharito offers a lot more from the bench than Berba does.