I agree with this. I'm amazed that people still don't rate Rafael at all. At worst he is a decent fullback (of course in reality we know he is better than that).
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I expect it from non-United fans. I don't really care if they don't rate our players, and United players are nearly always shot down, no matter how good they are. I don't understand it from United fans though. He's clearly playing well, and seems to improve all the time (except under Moyes, when the whole squad was poor).
Then again, I suppose it speaks volumes of the type of United fans I'm talking to when one of them didn't even know Fabio existed
Then again, I suppose it speaks volumes of the type of United fans I'm talking to when one of them didn't even know Fabio existed
It's one of those things where people seem to only remember the times when he does something rash. Yes, he is overly-aggressive sometimes because he plays with his heart on his sleeve and I wouldn't want it any other way. He can attack, can defend and probably has an iron lung the way he is constantly running up and down the pitch and it's clear as day that he LOVES playing for us. I wouldn't swap him for 90% of RBs in the world... plus we share the same name 
Thought he was improved yesterday.
Erm, so when we played Arsenal in that cup match, when both Raf and Fab were playing on opposite wings, who did they think the other one was?!Then again, I suppose it speaks volumes of the type of United fans I'm talking to when one of them didn't even know Fabio existed
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I would concede this actually, a tendency to only remember the negatives - esp about defenders!! Part of the reason to come here is to get an alternative point of view even if it remains obv the case that I am still right and everyone else wrong.It's one of those things where people seem to only remember the times when he does something rash. Yes, he is overly-aggressive sometimes because he plays with his heart on his sleeve and I wouldn't want it any other way. He can attack, can defend and probably has an iron lung the way he is constantly running up and down the pitch and it's clear as day that he LOVES playing for us. I wouldn't swap him for 90% of RBs in the world... plus we share the same name
I also feel that our views often appear to divide on binary & literal lines as well (see Kagawa threads)Let's see how it pans out with Super Raf. LVGs view is probably going to outrank ours. He has to play at the moment because we don't have anybody else!! Lets hope he can stay fit.
fans are generally fickle, no nothing idiots, who get swayed by public perceptions.
We saw it with De Gea. Everyone said he was rubbish, and now everyone says he's amazing. The truth is not in the middle, as I think it's a lot nearer the amazing side of the divide, but you get my point.
Exactly that was two seasons ago. He didn't have the best of times last season.
Other than De Gea from the seniors, no one did.
These past few games looked like Rafael during his last season under Sir Alex. When fit he has always been a very consistent performer that gives his best in each and every game.
God knows. Probably Phil Neville.Erm, so when we played Arsenal in that cup match, when both Raf and Fab were playing on opposite wings, who did they think the other one was?!
Was just going through some old folders and found this image - love it!
He can be a bit rash sometimes, but wouldn't swap him for any RB (not saying he is necessarily the best RB in the world, but he fits our club very well!).
He can be a bit rash sometimes, but wouldn't swap him for any RB (not saying he is necessarily the best RB in the world, but he fits our club very well!).
Have to admit I'd almost given up on Rafael. He always seemed prone to a moment of stupidity, and he wasn't doing enough good to compensate for that at the time. However, credit where it's due, he's really standing out this season. Looks a proper full back all of a sudden, some good defensive work and lots to offer going forward.
Hope he keeps it up, he's turning me into a believer!
Hope he keeps it up, he's turning me into a believer!
Pereira said Rafael was one of five players he would bring to a five a side match. Obviously, Rafael is terrific on the ball and a brilliant short passer. His link-up play is up there with that of Evra and his pace is great also. Strong, good in the air. If he keeps this up, he should be competing for that RB spot for Brazil.
Where were you two seasons ago? I thought he was all of that in Fergie's last season and was the best RB in the league. We played against Bale and Rafael didn't give him an inch.
I love how he's just ready to take on four Liverpool players on his own. In the Sir Alex interview MUTV aired tonight, the old boss said to MUTV that the loss to Liverpool hurt him more than anything else last season. I bet he loved having Rafa in his dressing room when the big games came around.Was just going through some old folders and found this image - love it!
He can be a bit rash sometimes, but wouldn't swap him for any RB (not saying he is necessarily the best RB in the world, but he fits our club very well!).
I was still recovering from his red card against Bayern a couple of years before. But you're right, he has looked good in spells. It's just that it all comes crashing down when he does something rash.
I don't think it's in "patches" at all. The 2012/13 season was basically Rafael putting in 7(+)/10 performances for almost all of the season. He's also come back into the team and has been doing similar. Provided he stays fit, I think we will see a repeat season akin to his performances in Sir Alex's last season.
Wonder what you thought of Roy Keane then?
why the feck isnt he called up for Brazil?
They are still holding a grudge against him for the Olympics final and he hasn't been called since and in recent times Dunga wants taller fullbacks or something like that again. Bit weird as they call up makeshifts and past it Maicon and Alves ahead.
Good for us anyway, as less travel and less chances of him picking up another injury.
This.
He's a mile better than anything else they have. I echo the sentiment that it's good for us, especially with his injury record but I do feel for the little fella, you just know how much he'd want to represent his country.
I'm glad he doesn't get called up because it is better for United, I feel a bit sorry for Rafael though.
I feel sorry for Rafael not making it to Brazil as well. It's clear that his one moment at the final of the Olympics is still keeping him out of the side, and it seems as if unless he leaves Man. Utd., he will rarely make it into Brazil's first team.
Shame he has already played for Brazil, or he could be a great little right back for England. The feckers are blind if they don't rate him.
He is the best Brazilian right back now.
I don't actually think they do, it'll take them another year or two before they lose the lazy narratives when rating our lesser known players. Take De Gea, who was until only recently the "good shot stopper but physically cannot command."
I don't care that he isn't being called up, less chance of injuries.
Please explain this?
For me, if he manages to stay fit for a season. he'll soon make an international come back. Playing for United isn't the issue, playing for one of the largest clubs in the world gets a player in the spotlight & enhances his chances of getting picked.
Well not last year but the year before, he was arguably our player of the season along with Carrick. If that doesn't get him into the squad, god knows what will.
One reason I can think of is that when it comes to United players, people are chomping at the bit to tear down our players for the slightest mistake and when I say people, its not just the ABUs but, our own supporters. For some reason the so called neutrals are not as quick to focus in on players at other big clubs in this way. They may get criticism but, no where near IMO what a United player gets.
If you think about what's going on with Maicon and Alves, they are probably making similar errors if not worse than Rafael but, theirs will hardly get any pundits lambasting them. So Rafael while at United has the burden of continuously having small mistakes being blown out of proportion and the myth of him being rash, hot headed and unreliable will perpetuate - which will only continue to remind the people in charge of the mistake in the Olympics despite being brilliant throughout till that point.
Funny thing is David Luiz who was responsible for Brazil failing on a lot bigger stage will not get the same treatment. Sucks for Rafael but, overall great for the club.
Surely losing 7-0 in a World Cup semi-final on home turf is worse than making a (albeit decisive) mistake in a Olympic final?
Out of interest, how many of the team that played against Germany in the World Cup are still in the international picture, I assume most of them?
Out of interest, how many of the team that played against Germany in the World Cup are still in the international picture, I assume most of them?
Too much Politics involved in the running of the Brazil national team.
Shimo perfectly summed up my response here. I know too many opposition fans underrate Rafael and think he's not good enough for the national team when he's been one of the best Brazilian defenders currently playing. At this moment, particularly with Man. Utd. finishing 7th last season, there's no way Rafael will be rated unless we win the Champions League with him in the first team. Only then will non-Man.-Utd. fans start to rate Rafael (and many of our underrated players).
This is also another big reason. Third parties seem to have a decent influence in the players picked for the first team, and I'm sure the head coaches are also almost forced into picking players from the Brazilian league (again, due to politics).
Sadly, Rafael's frequently the odd one out of the Brazilians in Europe. I'd like to know if any of the Brazilian members here can tell us what Brazilians think of Rafael nowadays and whether they still underrate him.
That's a good point actually. Surely David Luiz has been given the feck off after his debacle?
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What a great mentality he has. Rafael's not afraid of a bit of rain.
Just watching his west ham performance and realised he had the perfect game as a full back a perfect 10. Did everything right in every opportunity.
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