[Cina]

Well here's your idiot post from this thread. You can ban me or change my slogan again or whatever. Doesn't bother me. But you can't deny the hyperbole of some of the opinions on here, which is exactly what the post I was replying to was about. If I said, or the post I was replying to said, that it was the opinion of every poster that was over the top, then you'll need to point that out that to me.

Have you read the other posts from that guy? He regularly gets taken the piss out of on here by just about everyone else. If someone like that making a post like that is your excuse to try and rile people up with such claims then it's a really, really poor one. You keep saying these statements as if it's common amongst fans of Herrera that he would get into any team in the world, or he is as good as Fabregas, in reality it's just one person saying it and then getting laughed at for saying it, just look at the other reactions to his post!

Anyone with half a brain can see you're on an agenda in here to rile up people who like Herrera, if you need to use posts like that to do so, then, well ... you know.

 

[Wowi]

We should dominate Cambridge and have them sitting back on the edge of their own box. Who do you want in midfield to unlock that? Fellaini or Herrera? feck me.

 

[Speak]

Does naybody else think he might not be a Van Gaal signing? He was wanted by both Fergie and Moyes, maybe the board just felt that this meant he was a good player and worth buying.

I've thought this for a while. I think he had much less say in the signing than people think/thought.
Edit: He'll probably play half tonight anyway.

 

[Borys]

He's not playing for the exact same reason as the time we last played this team.

Or is a 10 days too long to remember that they're all 6ft+ and will be playing for corners and free kicks?

I get you but we're playing 4 CBs and Fellaini. IMO 3 strikers on the pitch are the problem, not the rest.

 

[Kag]

I'm sure all his medals would argue otherwise.

His whole career argues otherwise. But as manager at this club so far you wouldn't be blamed for believing that he's just as cowardly as his wretched predecessor and uses Van Persie as his mount in the same way the last one did Rooney. Two or three strikers no matter what, strikers in midfield and painfully one-paced midfield's is all about balance, though, so great.

Off topic, this, I just had to comment on balance, or lack of. As for Herrera, the exclusion is getting silly now. He's done well when on the pitch recently. The whole thing stinks of an up yours to those calling for him to get on the field. Arguably the opposite of cowardice, but generally moronic.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

So I'm alone in seeing the reasoning for playing Fellaini ahead of him and generally not being outraged he's not being selected tonight? I can't be...

 

[ottosec]

Fellaini was picked ahead of him because of his height. People need to calm the feck down.

 

[SonnyTheHaloPro]

Fellaini was picked ahead of him because of his height. People need to calm the feck down.

Fellaini was shocking against Cambridge last week and tbf to Herrera, he came on and made a positive impact. Old Trafford is a massive pitch, Herrera is one of those players that can help us stretch the feck out of teams like Cambridge.

 

[ottosec]

Fellaini was shocking against Cambridge last week and tbf to Herrera, he came on and made a positive impact. Old Trafford is a massive pitch, Herrera is one of those players that can help us stretch the feck out of teams like Cambridge.

Maybe he was, but Cambridge's only threat comes form their height and we must take measures against it.

 

[Roman Bellic]

So I'm alone in seeing the reasoning for playing Fellaini ahead of him and generally not being outraged he's not being selected tonight? I can't be...

you're not

 

[DWelbz19]

Fellaini was shocking against Cambridge last week and tbf to Herrera, he came on and made a positive impact. Old Trafford is a massive pitch, Herrera is one of those players that can help us stretch the feck out of teams like Cambridge.

And it's not even the omission of Ander for Fellaini. We're probably playing Rooney in CM again, or we could replace him with RvP who has been poor recently.

 

[Cina]

@charleysurf shame you deleted that. I like Fellaini, if anyone in his thread looks like they're trying to rile people up like you're doing in here, I'll happily do that.

 

[charleysurf]

Fellaini was picked ahead of him because of his height. People need to calm the feck down.

The problem is that Fellaini is always seen as the player keeping him out. It's really Mata and Rooney he's competing with ( in LVGs view anyway at least).

 

[iammemphis]

Yeh i don't understand the over exaggeration of not playing him. If the media had not hounded him so much past few weeks about him not starting then i reckon he would have started him tonight.. My only guess is that he's not impressing in training. Maybe another £30m wasted

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Or, you know, a good young Spanish midfielder whilst we instead play strikers in midfield and idiotic formations.

But sure, Zidane, whatever you think works.

He's 25 already, hardly a youngster...

Agree with the overall point though.

 

[Borys]

And it's not even the omission of Ander for Fellaini. We're probably playing Rooney in CM again, or we could replace him with RvP who has been poor recently.

Yeah that's what I think too. I'm okay with Fellaini. But IMO we should play Herrera instead of RVP. Rooney hasn't played up top for a long time though, that says something about LvG's view on him.

 

[charleysurf]

@charleysurf shame you deleted that. I like Fellaini, if anyone in his thread looks like they're trying to rile people up like you're doing in here, I'll happily do that.

Ah, I had a brief flash of maturity and thought it better to let the issue go. But too late

 

[VP]

Fellaini was picked ahead of him because of his height. People need to calm the feck down.

Am I the only one disgusted that we're selecting players based on height, rather than ability to play football, and against Cambridge United? If that is his rationale, it's as bad as anything Moyes ever did.

 

[SonnyTheHaloPro]

Yeh i don't understand the over exaggeration of not playing him. If the media had not hounded him so much past few weeks about him not starting then i reckon he would have started him tonight.. My only guess is that he's not impressing in training. Maybe another £30m wasted

It certainly seems that way now.

 

[Kag]

Am I the only one disgusted that we're selecting players based on height, rather than ability to play football, and against Cambridge United? If that is his rationale, it's as bad as anything Moyes ever did.

Fellaini isn't playing because of his height. People should stop doing him a disservice.

 

[milemuncher777]

Lvg is a tool. I'm starting to dislike him more with each passing day.

 

[Steven Seagull]

Maybe he was, but Cambridge's only threat comes form their height and we must take measures against it.

We've got 4 centre halves on the pitch

 

[Kostur]

Fellaini was shocking against Cambridge last week and tbf to Herrera, he came on and made a positive impact. Old Trafford is a massive pitch, Herrera is one of those players that can help us stretch the feck out of teams like Cambridge.

Wasn't really shocking and Herrera did so much positive impact that we still failed to score against the lot (that, on top of that, was losing their stamina as the game went on).

I actually thought that people would drop the idea of him being dropped in favour of Fellaini when both of them were benched last match but obviously not, how about he's dropped in favour of Rooney who'll, inevitably, play in the middle again?

There's no reason why Herrera would be frozen so often. Maybe he's a shit trainer and he's being a lazy git during training sessions? Doesn't look like one, he's always full of energy on field but he must be doing something really wrong the same way some players that looked horribly shit during matches must've been doing something really, really well during training.

 

[Cina]

He's 25 already, hardly a youngster...

Agree with the overall point though.

I think 25 is pretty young for a midfielder, no? I think of 'young' differently to 'youngster' though.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Yeh i don't understand the over exaggeration of not playing him. If the media had not hounded him so much past few weeks about him not starting then i reckon he would have started him tonight.. My only guess is that he's not impressing in training. Maybe another £30m wasted

It shouldn't be wasted, he is a good player. Anderson has been a waste, tbh Shaw has been as big a waste, he hardly ever plays.

 

[charleysurf]

It certainly seems that way now.

If Herrera was all Woodwards thing, as appears likely, then LVG must feel in a strong position to basically piss all over that 30m. It can't be pleasing his bosses.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I think 25 is pretty young for a midfielder, no? I think of 'young' differently to 'youngster' though.

I wouldn't call someone 25 a young player, but it doesn't really matter, I was nitpicking.

 

[SonnyTheHaloPro]

Wasn't really shocking and Herrera did so much positive impact that we still failed to score against the lot (that, on top of that, was losing their stamina as the game went on).

I actually thought that people would drop the idea of him being dropped in favour of Fellaini when both of them were benched last match but obviously not, how about he's dropped in favour of Rooney who'll, inevitably, play in the middle again?

There's no reason why Herrera would be frozen so often. Maybe he's a shit trainer and he's being a lazy git during training sessions? Doesn't look like one, he's always full of energy on field but he must be doing something really wrong the same way some players that looked horribly shit during matches must've been doing something really, really well during training.

I never even said he got dropped for Fellaini. The person I was replying to implied that.

 

[ottosec]

Fellaini isn't playing because of his height. People should stop doing him a disservice.

Being tall doesn't equal to being shit at football, you know...

 

[mufcwarm92]

In fairness I think this makes sense if we are playing a 442 diamond.

Fellaini offers the bite and physical presence that we lack with Herrera and Di Maria on the edges of the diamond.

People sometimes think the team needs to be simmetrical but in reality, with Di Maria bombing forward and drifting wide, Fellaini is probably a pretty good option to drop back with Blind.

 

[Kostur]

I never even said he got dropped for Fellaini. The person I was replying to implied that.

Wasn't directed at you obviously, sorry if you felt other way around.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

If Herrera was all Woodwards thing, as appears likely, then LVG must feel in a strong position to basically piss all over that 30m. It can't be pleasing his bosses.

LvG might be dicing with death if he is trying to take the board on.

 

[Amar__]

The same van Gaal who constantly bemuses me with his decision making, yes.

I don't overrate him, I don't think he's a Fabregas or an undroppable player or anything, I do think he at least deserves to start a game against a league two side at home, though. He's a very good player who primarily faded in form because of a bad injury and then just not playing games.

Yep, if he can't get a start against fecking Cambridge then obviously something is wrong between van Gaal and Herrera, not Herrera himself. We are starting youngsters in premierleague in important games yet we don't trust Herrera to play against Cambridge, midfielder who was paid over 30m pounds, I just don't buy it that he is not good enough or whatever the bullshit excuse is.

 

[SalfordRed1960]

So I'm alone in seeing the reasoning for playing Fellaini ahead of him and generally not being outraged he's not being selected tonight? I can't be...

In that case why Mata? I would argue Herrera is slightly more physical than Mata.

I can understand Fellani, because of height, but I would of expected us to be camped in their half so that shouldn't really be a reason to introduce him.

Saying that Fellani will now score a hatrick.

 

[charleysurf]

LvG might be dicing with death if he is trying to take the board on.

Well,it certainly won't help his case if we don't make top 4. If Woodward was the one who pushed for Herrera, then there's got to be an undercurrent of embarrassment if it doesn't work, or rather VG does not allow it to work.

 

[Devil may care]

Fellaini isn't ideal for the diamond because he lacks the mobility for wide midfield role, but Herrera should be playing instead of Mata in this set up.

 

[Kostur]

In that case why Mata? I would argue Herrera is slightly more physical than Mata.

I can understand Fellani, because of height, but I would of expected us to be camped in their half so that shouldn't really be a reason to introduce him.

Saying that Fellani will now score a hatrick.

Not really about that I imagine, more like they'll have their chances, one or two, corner, free kick, whatever and then we'll simply need the height but that's not the sole reason, mind.

I can see Herrera being a great impact sub when they're tired again by the way but yea, it's a bit mind-boggling that he can't get game time but then again, most of LVG's decisions are mind-boggling.

 

[ottosec]

In that case why Mata? I would argue Herrera is slightly more physical than Mata.

I can understand Fellani, because of height, but I would of expected us to be camped in their half so that shouldn't really be a reason to introduce him.

Saying that Fellani will now score a hatrick.

I think Mata will play LCM in the diamond and it looks like LVG always wants a left footed player there(and right footed at RCM).

 

[JPRouve]

LVG probably has a specific role for Herrera, and Herrera isn't exactly reproducing it on the field, therefore he is not a first choice.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Not really about that I imagine, more like they'll have their chances, one or two, corner, free kick, whatever and then we'll simply need the height but that's not the sole reason, mind.

I can see Herrera being a great impact sub when they're tired again by the way but yea, it's a bit mind-boggling that he can't get game time but then again, most of LVG's decisions are mind-boggling.

This is a big pitch, if we can get them running around it would make sense to bring Ander on when they tire. Knowing us he will change to goalie, bring bloody Young and Valencia on and go to 5 at the back.