Was that some sort of moral victory somwhere because Gotze had the official vote while Boateng had the unofficial? First I hear of this so naturally baffled.
Bastian Schweinsteiger | Signed for MUFC - confirmed.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Look at this way, your soulmate could be someone else's leftover so could be the job you get after your predecessor has moved on. How things come you should have no bearing on how you get satisfaction off them.
Hope this actuallly happens. Don't think it's guaranteed he'll be a hit with his age and fact he has nothing left to achieve that he hasn't already, but if we can get him in and for a reasonable fee it's still a no brainer. He's exactly the type of player we're missing.
What's that?
Falcao was a national treasure also and still is.
Just wait an see what happens with him in the season ahead, he could be a revelation and command the midfield like Keane did back in the day or we could be looking at another Hargreaves. Only time will tell.
Munich is fecking amazing. No offense to Mancs but Manchester is worse than a shithole for comparison!
@Pogue Mahone gets it.
My main concern is that at best Schweinsteiger is a short term solution - he is 31 in August. Lets assume he gives us two or three fantastic years, then what? We are in the market again.
At worst we have another Falcao sitaution, and as a club we look rather silly to boot. The blind optimism in this thread just goes to show that some folk clearly didnt learn anything from last season, that signing big name galacticos is not a guarantee of success.
I would rather we go after a younger player who can compete with Carrick, and take over from him in a couple of years time. It is part of a bigger trend we are seeing in the post-Fergie Era and I dont like the short term attitude to transfers that LVG and Woody appear to be taking. In some instances, it reminds me of Mourinho at his previous clubs, buying up all the top talent, neglecting youth, winning some trophies but then leaving the team a bit fecked when he buggers off after a few yeras. I hope LVG isnt prioritising his short term success for the sake of his ego, rather than trying to build a team which will be able to compete for years to come.
My main concern is that at best Schweinsteiger is a short term solution - he is 31 in August. Lets assume he gives us two or three fantastic years, then what? We are in the market again.
At worst we have another Falcao sitaution, and as a club we look rather silly to boot. The blind optimism in this thread just goes to show that some folk clearly didnt learn anything from last season, that signing big name galacticos is not a guarantee of success.
I would rather we go after a younger player who can compete with Carrick, and take over from him in a couple of years time. It is part of a bigger trend we are seeing in the post-Fergie Era and I dont like the short term attitude to transfers that LVG and Woody appear to be taking. In some instances, it reminds me of Mourinho at his previous clubs, buying up all the top talent, neglecting youth, winning some trophies but then leaving the team a bit fecked when he buggers off after a few yeras. I hope LVG isnt prioritising his short term success for the sake of his ego, rather than trying to build a team which will be able to compete for years to come.
As I am from Austria I am able to watch Bundesliga games for free. Beside United Bayern is certainly the Team I have watched the most the last few years.
That being said different to the sale of Kroos Guardiola is right to let Schweinsteiger go. In a System based on quick short passing and permanent movement by the whole Team I often had the Impression that Schweinsteiger has been slowing down the game. You could argue that he calms down the game which might be positive in certain situations.
Guardiola seems to be sure that Alonso is the better Option. Both together did not really work.
He is a big fighter but due to his Age and growing injury Problems his game had to become less physical. He still has a good passing range but not as great as Scholes or Pirlo. He reads the game very well but Carrick might be better at this.
Some here might think that he is the Kind of Player where Age is not such an important factor but I am afraid they are wrong. The great Thing about him has been the combination of his physical attributes and technical abilities. There have always been Players being better in single Areas but only a few being as near to being a "complete" midfielder. I always thought of him as a good hybrid between a 6 and an 8.
Most of the Bayern supporters moaning about his departure are more referring to his Status as leader and being one of the last "real" Bayer in the Team.
Based on his interviews he also seems to be one of the most intelligent Footballers. I have never heard him talking rubbish or making dirty laundry public.
He seems to be a very correct Person and you can clearly see why he is called a leader.
So the question is where to fit him into our Team? Some might think he will follow in the footsteps of Carrick but those 2 have quite a different playing style. However, I think that we should Play either him or Carrick on the 6. If Schweinsteiger can stay fit it might be an Option to Play him in front of Carrick behind Herrera in some games.
Overall I am not too hyped about this Transfer but Bastian deserves our full respect and Support. Let`s hope he stays fit and can Show what he is worth.
That being said different to the sale of Kroos Guardiola is right to let Schweinsteiger go. In a System based on quick short passing and permanent movement by the whole Team I often had the Impression that Schweinsteiger has been slowing down the game. You could argue that he calms down the game which might be positive in certain situations.
Guardiola seems to be sure that Alonso is the better Option. Both together did not really work.
He is a big fighter but due to his Age and growing injury Problems his game had to become less physical. He still has a good passing range but not as great as Scholes or Pirlo. He reads the game very well but Carrick might be better at this.
Some here might think that he is the Kind of Player where Age is not such an important factor but I am afraid they are wrong. The great Thing about him has been the combination of his physical attributes and technical abilities. There have always been Players being better in single Areas but only a few being as near to being a "complete" midfielder. I always thought of him as a good hybrid between a 6 and an 8.
Most of the Bayern supporters moaning about his departure are more referring to his Status as leader and being one of the last "real" Bayer in the Team.
Based on his interviews he also seems to be one of the most intelligent Footballers. I have never heard him talking rubbish or making dirty laundry public.
He seems to be a very correct Person and you can clearly see why he is called a leader.
So the question is where to fit him into our Team? Some might think he will follow in the footsteps of Carrick but those 2 have quite a different playing style. However, I think that we should Play either him or Carrick on the 6. If Schweinsteiger can stay fit it might be an Option to Play him in front of Carrick behind Herrera in some games.
Overall I am not too hyped about this Transfer but Bastian deserves our full respect and Support. Let`s hope he stays fit and can Show what he is worth.
apparently @Blackwidow has addressed all your demands
what is Carrick money? you mean Carrick is of little value or something else?
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Jesus.
Shall we buy George Boyd as well? He covers shitloads of distance. The rest of the world disagrees with you, the most heroic performance was that of Boateng.
Yes, he might end up winning the treble with us or he might just be another sick note, but my point is - he is Bastian Schweinsteiger,he is going to earn a lot of money regardless, people shouldn't expect us to pay him like Carrick.What's that?
Falcao was a national treasure also and still is.
Just wait an see what happens with him in the season ahead, he could be a revelation and command the midfield like Keane did back in the day or we could be looking at another Hargreaves. Only time will tell.
So is Pep now dreaming of a midfieldless team or something? Thiago, Javi, Lahm, Xabi all have concerns bigger than Basty being injuries, age and not actually being a midfield but good anyway.
Big pressure on Holjberg?
A massive u-turn from midfield heaven team at one point at Barca with Busquets-Masch in defence and Cesc false 9 or wining it up while trying to find a place for Thiago
Big pressure on Holjberg?
A massive u-turn from midfield heaven team at one point at Barca with Busquets-Masch in defence and Cesc false 9 or wining it up while trying to find a place for Thiago
Yes, but, he's 65 years old.
Compared to Schweinsteiger, yes... Now this has absolutely nothing to do with his footballing abilities, just his brand as a whole.
We signed a 20 year old goalkeeper and will have got at most 4 great seasons from him and that's if he leaves on a free next year. We got 6 years out of a 35 year old Edwin Van Der Sar.
This obsession having the same 11 for 10 years is a bit stupid IMO. Nobody ever has that, change is good - your team needs to evolve every 3-4 years with a regular turnover of players. Getting 3 years of excellent service is perfect.
I don't see why some people always want to look on the negative side.Talking about his age,fitness concerns etc.Not that they arn't valid concerns but it's Bastian Schweinsteiger ffs.The risk is the well worth the reward.
It's the same case with Falcao really.We took a risk on a formerly great player and unfortunately it didn't work out.As a club we are big enough to absorb these losses, so there is no reason to moan and worry about it.
It's the same case with Falcao really.We took a risk on a formerly great player and unfortunately it didn't work out.As a club we are big enough to absorb these losses, so there is no reason to moan and worry about it.
What short term attitude?
Only Falcao was a bit older and that was a loan. All the other players bought are young or in their prime.
Neglecting youth?
We have a young squad all in all and LVG has given youth a chance last year and I'm sure he'll give it in this season too.
He can give us 2 or 3 years but if all goes well he could be with us 5 more who knows.
Its not that we're Milan and buying just old players.
Herrera, Blind, Rojo, Darmian - all young players .
ADM is not old too.
Plus if we buy Otamendi and Morgan that wont be some short time solutions..
There's no blind optimism here, people are just glad we bought a player of that calibre. Sure its a risk but a risk worth taking.
Slower of foot perhaps, but so much quicker of mind. I'd be shocked if he fell on his arse to hand away the title or got sent off 27 seconds into a crucial derby either.
Won't we run into the same problem that Pep had pairing him with Alonso? I think it should be an 'either or' between the two, and if we bring Schneidi in then he partners one if them.
Ho Lee Fuk 
Just seen the reports that he's close to signing. Never thought this would happen, but it looks like it actually will.
Brilliant player & an excellent addition - just hope we get Schneiderlin too & that's us set in CM for years to come. Feckin delighted
Just seen the reports that he's close to signing. Never thought this would happen, but it looks like it actually will.
Brilliant player & an excellent addition - just hope we get Schneiderlin too & that's us set in CM for years to come. Feckin delighted
Oh yeah, because Michael 'Lightning' Carrick has really struggled with that.
We are signing both Bastian and Morgan according to reports. Would getting both of them not appease your worries?
Carrick is more flexible and adaptable than Alonso, but yeah it's a risk.
For me 3 years in football is a lifetime, for £13m if we get 3 decent years from Bastian its money well spent. His experience and leadership will also be vital I feel our squad lack balls to be honest since losing Vidic and Evra.
now understand that, but I still feel it quite disrespectful
Oh, and do you know how much Carrick is paid by the way?
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Very surprised by the negativity around this signing. Carrick missed a lot of games last season and when he was out there was nobody who could control the midfield. When United lost control of games and were hanging on against West Ham and Everton at home, they were crying out for someone like Schweinsteiger to manage the game.
Maybe he's not as good as he was but he can add a lot to that midfield and should have no issues adapting to the philosophy.
Maybe he's not as good as he was but he can add a lot to that midfield and should have no issues adapting to the philosophy.
Surprisingly, the majority of them things that it is a very god transfer.
Again, this signing shows the advantage of having a big name manager. Would Moyes have a chance of signing Schweinsteiger? I don't think so.
Ronaldo is fit as a bird and knows the EPL inside out. Some of the finest EPL defenders are still in his pockets till this very day
This.
Scholes didn't have to be the quickest of all in his thirties, but, man, he was always anticipating the play ahead. It's almost an insult to put Gerrard's name in the sentence; he never had the kind of sharpness of mind Schweinsteiger, Scholes or even Carrick have.
It's Fergie's legacy I think, for better or for worse. There's a tradition at this club that we get players young, can develop them and keep them for ages. It's great, but it's less and less the reality of modern football and in a sense we were isolated from this evolution for a while. But the truth is that 3-4 years of service from a player, if he's successful, is great and we should embrace it.
I'd also like Schneiderlin to sign, of course, but I think people are being way too negative about the Schweiny signing, mainly for the wrong reasons.
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I don't get this notion that you have to get 5-6 years out of a player for it to be considered a success, if we get 2-3 "fantastic" years out of him then how exactly is it a bad thing? So we have to buy another midfielder 3 years from now........I just don't see that as a problem for Man Utd and football changes a lot in that timespan. Success breeds success, Schweinsteiger adds a huge leader and an excellent footballer to what is a relatively young squad (we have a ton of talents around the breakout ages of 25-26).
And we might still be in for Schneiderlin anyway.
As a few others have pointed out, not overly enthused by this, 31 by the time the season starts and attracted through mega-wages, I don't think this is a signing we'd of made under Sir Alex, but got to roll with the times I suppose.
Very true, Scholes and Sheringham come to mind.
Sky tells that Rummenigge will join the press conference at 1 pm that was prior announced to be only with Sammer to introduce Kimmich and Douglas Costa.
The team presentation is shown on youtube with English comment... if you want to see fan reactions...
The team presentation is shown on youtube with English comment... if you want to see fan reactions...
People actually moaning about signing Schweinsteiger Proven-winner, experience, leadership and can offer so much more when it comes to the football too.
There is no downside to this. I'm close to actually getting angry/annoyed at those who are putting this one down. Sure I understand why some might be annoyed if we don't sign Schneiderlin, but that may not be the case. It's 11th of July for feck sake.
Experienced heads is what we need after losing such a plethora of it over the last couple of seasons in Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra etc.
We're signing Schweinsteiger for goodness sake.
Proven-winner, experience, leadership and can offer so much more when it comes to the football too.There is no downside to this. I'm close to actually getting angry/annoyed at those who are putting this one down. Sure I understand why some might be annoyed if we don't sign Schneiderlin, but that may not be the case. It's 11th of July for feck sake.
Experienced heads is what we need after losing such a plethora of it over the last couple of seasons in Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra etc.
We're signing Schweinsteiger for goodness sake.
So what? If we felt there was a younger player who was available and could be as good as Schweinsteiger and understood the system, we'd sign him up and pay 50 million for him. There isn't so we're signing this guy for a small fee and we'll do the former when the opportunity arises.
2 or 3 fantastic years would be great. For 10 million? feck yeah I'd take that. Heck id take a couple of good years let alone 3 fantastic ones.
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