De Gea Contract Situation

[Walrus]

Dont know if it has been mentioned yet but @Olly 's gif has now been stolen and put on a MEN article;
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ews/manchester-united-de-gea-reaction-9966765

Not a reference or source in sight, of course!

 

[Insanity]

I dunno. I'd probably have taken the €25m + Navas if we're just going to lose DDG next year anyway. Presumably the club felt the same way, otherwise they wouldn't have accepted the deal.

I don't think many were convinced with Navas, mate. I wasn't.

I think the club tried to make the best of an awkward situation, where our hands were a bit tied due to the player being in the last year of the contract. The was the best deal available at last minute.

Whether we should have tried to find a solutions earlier? Yes.

The more balanced / interesting poll might be whether people are happy with our handling of the transfer, rather than whether we are pleased he is staying.

Although from reading this it seems there are plenty of people who arent happy he is staying, on the basis that they dont believe he will play for us again anyway. Or wont be any good because of his disappointment. Or just think we have wasted £20m or whatever we might have got if we had encouraged them in their pursuit on their original terms.

Those are some of my concerns too. Still, looking at our current state, the best goalie in the world staying is better than the thought of a couple of 'flappies' in our goal. We need to him to come good for a 3rd season in a row to have a chance.

Also, gives us a chance to plan for a better goalkeeper next season.

I hope that both De Gea and VG see sense and get on with business; De Gea putting his career ahead and VG the needs to Manchester United football club.

 

[Red Dreams]

I think United will be talking to De Gea about extending his contract.

 

[dave2528]

While on some level I am a bit tickled to see Real and de Gea not get what they wanted, I'm actually not overall happy that this has fallen through. While the rumors that Navas wasn't exactly chomping at the bit the leave Real are no doubt true, I can't help but think that we'd have been better off trying to bed him into the team, rather than now try and somehow coax even a halfhearted attempt from de Gea.

If his mentality and focus were of concern before yesterday, I've got to think that what has transpired in the last 24 hours would certainly be the nail in the coffin as far as the player ever being of the mindset to put in 100% for the club ever again. Admittedly, that's pure speculation on my part but, I can't shake the sense that whatever spin Real puts on this, true or not, will be taken hook, line, and sinker by DdG.

As delicious as this all is on the feck RM, and feck DdG level, I think it actually leaves our squad in a weaker position because we're still stuck relying on Romero in goal. I think this was bad business for our club.

 

[Moriarty]

Dont know if it has been mentioned yet but @Olly 's gif has now been stolen and put on a MEN article;
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ews/manchester-united-de-gea-reaction-9966765

Not a reference or source in sight, of course!

That's a dirty trick. Lazy bastards can't come up with their own stuff.

 

[Guy]

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This isn't entirely unrealistic because now De Gea has to think about his career for the coming season.

If he thinks United will bench him until either January or next June, he might have to at least pay lip service to this idea of renewing at United.

 

[Smores]

8 hours is great turnaround time (coming from a law talking guy). These contracts are complicated and RM must have had that drawn up before they sent it across to us. Their lawyers probably had 2 months to prepare it - so it must have had all kinds of things that had to be looked at.

I wouldn't dispute your expertise as im not in this area only around it but my employer a large financial industry firm has turned these things around within a day when necessary. Does it really take 8 hours to confirm our legal standards to them, Real Madrid have said they were all minor after all so I imagine that's what it was.

These things can happen within the closing hours of a transfer window so there's no way it can't be done quicker.

Either way I'm over the moon we're keeping him.

 

[barros]

First Coentrao and now De Gea .......

 

[langster]

Does the Spanish League have an extended period where clubs can register loan players?

 

[barros]

This isn't entirely unrealistic because now De Gea has to think about his career for the coming season.

If he thinks United will bench him until either January or next June, he might have to at least pay lip service to this idea of renewing at United.

By January RM will offer half

 

[Berbaclass]

All the talk of computer problems I just kept picturing this in my head

 

[Ixion]

He'll probably sign a new deal if we stick a release clause in there.

 

[NinjaZombie]

I'm fine with how this has turned out. Even if De Gea never makes another appearance before running his contract down.

The fact that we got Madrid to stump up what, 25m and Navas after all the talk of them offering ridiculously low amounts speaks volumes.

Also that 10 point Madrid statement and De Gea not getting to use his suit makes it all the more special.

feck Madrid, feck Perez, feck Edurne and feck De Gea.

 

[SirAF]

This isn't entirely unrealistic because now De Gea has to think about his career for the coming season.

If he thinks United will bench him until either January or next June, he might have to at least pay lip service to this idea of renewing at United.

Absolutely. United have every right to just put him in the stands for the whole season and that will seriously damage his career. It would be best for both parties if he extends his contract. Then he'll get to play, and United can demand a proper transfer fee if Real are still interested/de Gea is still hell bent on going to Spain.

 

[Insanity]

Does the Spanish League have an extended period where clubs can register loan players?

I thought that was only for lower league clubs with in England. Don't think it works across the leagues.

 

[Earthquake]

I thought that was only for lower league clubs with in England. Don't think it works across the leagues.

Yes, only lower leagues.

 

[fatboy]

It's ridiculous how Real is trying to pin this on us. If a transfer goes tits up right at the deadline, obviously it's the buying club's fault for leaving it till the last minute. The rest are just details and excuses. Anyway, hope DDG knuckles down now.

 

[acnumber9]

I'm not happy with how this has turned out at all. Had Utd been holding true to their word and saying he's not for sale and Real can't take our players as and when they please then fair enough. As it was we've shown we were willing to bend over and do what they wanted all along and we still end up with nothing.

 

[devilish]

Pondering.

Imagine him sitting there, roaring fire in the hearth, sitting in a large leather chair, plush robe, glass of brandy on a side table, pipe in one hand, whilst he strokes his alpaca beard contemplating about his future.

I can imagine him seated and surrounded by United players, the manager, Mendes and Woodward.

Mendes: "the proper course is clear. You will sign with Barcelona and you wont look as shit with the United and Athletico Madrid fans"
DDG "Barcelona is not the team I promised my signature to"
Mendes "Surely you cant declare yourself to Real now. They have betrayed you"
DDG "That doesn't mean I will sign with Barcelona. They aren't the best club in Spain. Spurs aren't ahead of United and Barcelona aren't ahead of Real"
Mendes "Do you mean you're declaring yourself to Real"
Some player "Signing with Barcelona is not right"
Rooney "My friends, here is what I say to these two clubs" and he spits "Barcelona are nothing to me, and so are Real. Why should they decide where DDG goes from some flowering seat in the South. What do they know of Trafford centre and SAF's stand. Even their priorities are wrong. Why shouldn't you stay at United. It was their money you bowed to and we're now loaded as much as they are". He aims his finger at DDG "There sits the only goalkeeper I want as United first keeper. The Keeper of the North!"and he kneels
DDG stands up slowly
Woodward"I have peace in those terms, they can keep their money and their stars too. The Keeper of the North" and kneels
DDG wife looks as this scene like someone had just stabbed her as everyone kneels to DDG
Romero "Am I your cover, now and always?"
DDG "Now and always"
Romero "My gloves are yours, in victory and defeat from this day to my last day" and knees
Rooney " the keeper of the north"
Everyone "the keeper of the North" as they kneel

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

@Olly - your GIF made the Bleacher Report website

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...rez-in-comical-david-de-gea-ebay-transfer-gif

Although the Tweet of it they've shared is from somebody else. Does it hurt seeing other people retweet your stuff and getting hundreds of favourites?

 

[Red Dreams]

put a proper buy out clause for what we expect and play him. If he changes his mind, great. If he still wants to go, we get a good price for him.
win win.

The alternative is we do not play him for a year, which I'm sure he will not want.

 

[Eyepopper]

I think Utd's conversation with him will be pretty easy really.

'We know you wanted it, we agreed the deal, but its not happening, you now need to get your head down and not let your career fall apart on the back of this.'

I think we'll see him sign a new deal.

 

[Danillaco]

Found this on reddit, don't know if it was posted but:

 

[gza the genius]

The only reason I have hopes of DDG playing, and playing well this season is he'll need to in order to make the Euros.

 

[Ixion]

I don't think we can threaten him with not playing him for a season, we'll do nothing with Romero in goal this year and he knows it.

Found this on reddit, don't know if it was posted but:

Look at the text in the bottom right corner

 

[vodrake]

I'm not happy with how this has turned out at all. Had Utd been holding true to their word and saying he's not for sale and Real can't take our players as and when they please then fair enough. As it was we've shown we were willing to bend over and do what they wanted all along and we still end up with nothing.

United never said this. In fact they made it pretty clear he was for sale so long as they gave us what we wanted for him in return, which was either a part exchange for a player or (depending on which newspaper you read) around £30-35M in cash.

 

[Red Dreams]

I'm not happy with how this has turned out at all. Had Utd been holding true to their word and saying he's not for sale and Real can't take our players as and when they please then fair enough. As it was we've shown we were willing to bend over and do what they wanted all along and we still end up with nothing.

we did not bend over. We tried to get the best deal we could. Getting a very good keeper like Navas and money for a player who did not want to be with us.

Real lost in many ways. They look completely unprofessional. Now they have a keeper who knows he was not wanted.

Beautiful.

 

[Dante]

Found this on reddit, don't know if it was posted but:

Spoiler: It's Olly's

Check the bottom right hand corner.

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

Like I said way back in the thread, I hope we play Real Madrid this year and beat them at the
Santiago Bernabéu. Let him see firsthand how their fans treat their players when things are going badly.

 

[acnumber9]

United never said this. In fact they made it pretty clear he was for sale so long as they gave us what we wanted for him in return, which was either a part exchange for a player or (depending on which newspaper you read) around £30-35M in cash.

When did they make this clear? All the word when Ramos was linked was it was him or nothing. If we'd wanted Navas then surely we could've asked for that a long time ago.

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

Found this on reddit, don't know if it was posted but:

Spoiler

Jeez man, have you not read the past ten pages of this thread? That was made by Olly right here at RedCafe. Look at the bottom right of the GIF.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

No way De Gea stays on his paltry (in comparison) wage for the full year I say.. not when he can double/triple his wage and get a great whacking signing on fee...

 

[Woodzy]

So what happens in regards to Navas if Fifa manage to sanction this once the English window closes in three hours?

 

[acnumber9]

we did not bend over. We tried to get the best deal we could. Getting a very good keeper like Navas and money for a player who did not want to be with us.

Real lost in many ways. They look completely unprofessional. Now they have a keeper who knows he was not wanted.

Beautiful.

If that's the best deal we could do then it was shit. Real won't lose out on much. They still have a keeper who wanted to stay and they'll get De Gea eventually. Utd end up with no money and a player we've refused to play so far plus we've shown we were happy to do business with Real Madrid on their terms. I don't see how we win here.

 

[Earthquake]

Good lad Le Tiss! Saying it's embarrassing for Madrid.

 

[entropy]

I think Utd's conversation with him will be pretty easy really.

'We know you wanted it, we agreed the deal, but its not happening, you now need to get your head down and not let your career fall apart on the back of this.'

I think we'll see him sign a new deal.

Simple and straightforward. Don't feck it up Louie.

 

[Henk de Rode]

I certainly don't want to see him in our shirt, not even for the U21's. He chose to force a transfer after all Untited has done for him. So let him deal with the consequences. Let's see how good he is after a year on the bench.

In years to come his name will pop up when agents explain upcoming players why one shouldn't f*** with United.

 

[Mindhunter]

we did not bend over. We tried to get the best deal we could. Getting a very good keeper like Navas and money for a player who did not want to be with us.

Real lost in many ways. They look completely unprofessional. Now they have a keeper who knows he was not wanted.

Beautiful.

Yeah, I am sure Navas was shocked that Real went after De Gea.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

I actually feel sorry for Real here. And for Dave. And for Edurne. Especially for Edurne. To think of what that poor woman must be going through right now is positively heartbreaking.

Spoiler: Then again...

 

[Annihilate Now!]

So what happens in regards to Navas if Fifa manage to sanction this once the English window closes in three hours?

Madrid apparently didn't submit anything to FIFA/That transfer body thing precisely for this reason... its why the La Liga officials say they didn't receive the official paper work from Real