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Chesterlestreet

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Just for the sake of clarity, @Aldo - what's the policy on no-shows? Next guy picks, then the no-show gets to pick...when? End of the round - or whenever he shows?

For my money it should be brutal in terms of deadlines. If you don't pick before the 8 are up, you're at the very least at the mercy of whoever follows you in the order. This isn't child's play, after all. It's business. I have stock owners to answer to.
 

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A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs.
I'm sure he'll give it a good ol college try. He did him well last time.

Also, apologies for all the PMs for you to sift through :lol:
Aye, no better man than Joga to do justice to Law. And no worries on the PMs. I'm just glad that we may be able to field something bigger than a 5 a side team now :D
 

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Just for the sake of clarity, @Aldo - what's the policy on no-shows? Next guy picks, then the no-show gets to pick...when? End of the round - or whenever he shows?

For my money it should be brutal in terms of deadlines. If you don't pick before the 8 are up, you're at the very least at the mercy of whoever follows you in the order. This isn't child's play, after all. It's business. I have stock owners to answer to.
Typical practice has been to carry on after 8 hours and the returning manager gets their pick in whenever they're next online, however many picks down the line that may be. I'd give a bit of leeway for the start of reinforcement rounds so a gaffer isn't caught unaware while their marquee pick isn't snapped up 8 hours and 1 minute after the round starts. ;)
 

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Typical practice has been to carry on after 8 hours and the returning manager gets their pick in whenever they're next online, however many picks down the line that may be. I'd give a bit of leeway for the start of reinforcement rounds so a gaffer isn't caught unaware while their marquee pick isn't snapped up 8 hours and 1 minute after the round starts. ;)
Yeah, that's fair - I wasn't being serious. Leeway is definitely the way to go if we want to avoid meltdowns - and it's probably a good thing to avoid them early on.

That said, I'd like to see a draft where there's no leeway whatsoever - precisely in order to enjoy the meltdowns. But it has to be stated explicitly that no dallying will be tolerated - you can't start enforcing draconian rules when the precedent is either a bit woolen, or non-existent.

In this particular case, it's the manager's first pick we're talking about - so he should be cut considerable slack. Especially since he's out drinking - can't fault a man for that.
 

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It's no big deal, he's entitled to his 8 hrs. It was just funny because people responded 3 minutes after his request to send his picks to someone but then he disappeared. What happened in the minutes after he posted here is what i'd like to know :lol:. Obducted by aliens? Spontaneous diarrhea? Impatient missus?
 

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Certainly I'd be happy to get things moving after 8 hours and tough titty if you haven't responded. The only leeway I'd build in is at the start of a new round if whichever manager isn't aware that there is new round away. Once everyone's checked in, then let's take no prisoners.
 

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It's no big deal, he's entitled to his 8 hrs. It was just funny because people responded 3 minutes after his request to send his picks to someone but then he disappeared. What happened in the minutes after he posted here is what i'd like to know :lol:. Obducted by aliens? Spontaneous diarrhea? Impatient missus?
 

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Sorry didn't get a chance to let anyone know picks...

I choose Gerson and Carlos Alberto. Two of the best players of the best national team ever!
 

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Aldo 1. Best
Chesterlestreet 1. Pelé
RedTiger 1. Beckenbauer
Skizzo/Pat_Mustard 1. Cruyff
Gol123 1. Van Hanegem
Invictus 1. Eusébio
Balu 1. G. Müller
ctp 1. Rivelino
crappycraperson 1. Moore
Gio 1. Figueroa
NM/EAP 1. Facchetti
sallycinnamin 1. Jairzinho
harms 1. Krol
Tuppet 1. Rivera
Joga Bonito 1. Law
Marty1968 1. Gerson 2. Carlos Alberto

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Joga Bonito

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Finally, the player that I've always wanted to get my hands on.

From the Depths of space comes Karajan







How do you explain a man that owned a bar but never drank alcohol?

The son of a humble greengrocer who ended up running a notorious nightclub?

Who kept fast cars but never raced them? Who wore his blonde hair long like an Edwardian poet but insisted it was to hide his ugliness? A man who was nicknamed after a musical legend with a questionable past? An astute businessman who hated commercialism? A sex symbol who married an enigmatic goldsmith? A man who intellectuals salivated over but was apolitical?

And that was off the pitch.


Netzer's masterpiece in Germany’s ground-breaking 3-1 victory at Wembley in the Euro 1972 - a performance that caused the cultural critic of the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Karl Heinz Bohrer, to write in an essay the immortal words, “Netzer came from the depths of space”.

Günter Netzer had overwhelmed Alf Ramsey's side in such exhilarating fashion that there were no German words to describe it. Literary scholar Karl Heinze Bohrer used the English word 'thrill', writing about Netzer's charging forward from the 'depth of space' in FAZ: "Thrill is is the transformation of geometry into energy, an explosion in the box that makes you mad with happiness". 'Dream football from the year 2000' - exclaimed L'Equipe.

Paul Breitner said:
Günter Netzer was at the height of his potential. In my first year at Real, he played like I’ve never seen anybody else, except Franz Beckenbauer perhaps. Günter’s leadership on the pitch was absolutely gigantic, superior even to what he did for Germany in 1972 and 1973
German manager Helmut Schon said:
He was a master at changing the pace of the game. He would spray long passes over 40 metres, play direct, hit short or long balls and show a phenomenal awareness of distance.
Matt Busby said:
A watching Matt Busby, in attendance that fateful night - where a Netzer inspired Gladbach side ripped La Grande's Inter to shreds - shook his head and simply declared, “There is no cure against this Mönchengladbach side”.
Detailed write-up to follow...
 

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Aldo 1. Best 2.
Chesterlestreet 1. Pelé 2.
RedTiger 1. Beckenbauer 2.
Skizzo/Pat_Mustard 1. Cruyff 2.
Gol123 1. Van Hanegem 2.
Invictus 1. Eusébio 2.
Balu 1. G. Müller 2.
ctp 1. Rivelino 2.
crappycraperson 1. Moore 2.
Gio 1. Figueroa 2.
NM/EAP 1. Facchetti 2.
sallycinnamin 1. Jairzinho 2.
harms 1. Krol 2.
Tuppet 1. Rivera 2.
Joga Bonito 1. Law 2. Netzer
Marty1968 1. Gerson 2. Carlos Alberto

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You know more about my predictions than I do :D.
 

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Why? I don't hate him, didn't ruin my day at all. I didn't know the first was eligible and didn't expect the 2nd to last to me anyway.
I would've taken him if not for Joga, that's for sure. It was obvious that he is getting him though
 

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@Tuppet are you picking soon mate? Because if not I'm going to sleep in 20-30 minutes
 

Joga Bonito

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It was on your prediction that Joga will go for him. Turned out correct.
Couldn't have made it any more obvious as harms said :lol:.

There were a few Germans that I had my eyes on. They will probably get picked already as the pool is pretty shallow, but with you in this, the chances of getting them are considerably lower :(.
Really hope I can get that player whom I've always wanted. Watching one of his matches right now in fact :nervous:.
 

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The Balkan Miracle -


Aldo 1. Best 2.
Chesterlestreet 1. Pelé 2.
RedTiger 1. Beckenbauer 2.
Skizzo/Pat_Mustard 1. Cruyff 2.
Gol123 1. Van Hanegem 2.
Invictus 1. Eusébio 2.
Balu 1. G. Müller 2.
ctp 1. Rivelino 2.
crappycraperson 1. Moore 2.
Gio 1. Figueroa 2.
NM/EAP 1. Facchetti 2.
sallycinnamin 1. Jairzinho 2.
harms 1. Krol 2.
Tuppet 1. Rivera 2. Dragan Džajić
Joga Bonito 1. Law 2. Netzer
Marty1968 1. Gerson 2. Carlos Alberto

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You said he is shite when I picked him in auction draft :lol:

Well, not shite, but he needs to be in right system, else he will be deemed as liability
It's true, in fairness. You can't get away from the fact he was a chain smoker who didn't run much and relied on his parter to carry the defensive burden. If you so, however, his passing range can be devastating. I don't think that's really up for debate. There's few players that are as dangerous from the halfway line as he is.
 

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It's true, in fairness. You can't get away from the fact he was a chain smoker who didn't run much and relied on his parter to carry the defensive burden. If you so, however, his passing range can be devastating. I don't think that's really up for debate. There's few players that are as dangerous from the halfway line as he is.
Yes, I suppose the main problem with him is that he requires more protection/lifting from others than most players who are comparable in this context (drafts, I mean). You can't play him in a conventional/modern set-up when facing another conventional/modern set-up and realistically claim that he'll pull his weight.

It's like having a so-called luxury player of the sort you usually associate with a purely attacking role - only you have him significantly deeper on the pitch, in an area where you'd normally want someone who will at least chip in a little bit with off-the-ball stuff.

That said, it would be completely unfair to simply write him off as liability per default - as he can easily shine if you're willing to give him the right protection. Will be very interesting to see how he fares here.
 

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I'll take Florian Albert, the best thing that happened to Hungary since Aranycsapat and a Ballon D'Or winner in 1967.

He is often being underrated, like a lot of footballers who were born on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain, but take a look at the company he is in, tucked between Sir Bobby Charlton and George Best, the players whose level we all know and admire. Tragically, there are very little footage of him, but the personal highlights from, probably, the most important game of his life are available on youtube.

1966, Hungary meets Brazil, current world champions and a side that hasn't lost in the World Cup finals for 12 years (funny enough, their last loss was also to Hungary, in 1954). And Florian Albert, an outstanding talent that he is, produces one of the best individual performances in the history of the World Cup, tearing Brazilians a new one in his unique effortless and graceful style. Why bother with words when you can check it out for yourself:



Aldo 1. Best 2.
Chesterlestreet 1. Pelé 2.
RedTiger 1. Beckenbauer 2.
Skizzo/Pat_Mustard 1. Cruyff 2.
Gol123 1. Van Hanegem 2.
Invictus 1. Eusébio 2.
Balu 1. G. Müller 2.
ctp 1. Rivelino 2.
crappycraperson 1. Moore 2.
Gio 1. Figueroa 2.
NM/EAP 1. Facchetti 2.
sallycinnamin 1. Jairzinho 2.
harms 1. Krol 2. Florian Albert
Tuppet 1. Rivera 2. Dragan Džajić
Joga Bonito 1. Law 2. Netzer
Marty1968 1. Gerson 2. Carlos Alberto

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:eek: That would have been a ridiculous left side.
I had Facchetti - Dzajic myself in the semi's of Euro draft. The people were not impressed, though maybe Brehme - Dzajic was a more complimentary partnership, a shame that there were no right-backs available.
 

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I had Facchetti - Dzajic myself in the semi's of Euro draft. The people were not impressed, though maybe Brehme - Dzajic was a more complimentary partnership, a shame that there were no right-backs available.
We had Nilton Santos and Rivelino and it was the same story too. :D