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Always belong in a higher bracket than the likes of McNair in the youth team/U21s tbh so not much of a surprise.

He needs to be trained/developed more on his attacking prowess for sure, has always been regarded as a more defensive type of fullback.
I think his attacking play looks quite good even now tbh. Seems an intelligent player and know when to pass and when to cross. A real fecking pity he's not a RB.

I wonder if we could try and see if he can play CB.
 

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I think his attacking play looks quite good even now tbh. Seems an intelligent player and know when to pass and when to cross. A real fecking pity he's not a RB.

I wonder if we could try and see if he can play CB.
Yeah I always rate his fundamental footballing skills but to be a more attacking-minded full back you need more than that, still loads of time for him to improve on.He's equally adept at CB but he seems lack of bit of aggressiveness when closing player down while playing that role in the lower levels.Of course we never know how he will fade at PL level.
 

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Yeah I always rate his fundamental footballing skills but to be a more attacking-minded full back you need more than that, still loads of time for him to improve on.He's equally adept at CB but he seems lack of bit of aggressiveness when closing player down while playing that role in the lower levels.Of course we never know how he will fade at PL level.
Think we should consider it. Shaw is gonna be impossible to replace when he comes back.

Anyway, I'm excited about him.
 

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He seem to be adapting quite well to PL football better than most of the higher rated youngsters coming through.
I think playing without the pressure of trying to prove a point is allowed for these assured performances.
 

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I think his growth will kinda be stunted by the lack of quality around him tbh.

Then he will probably get railed on this forum for not progressing (or regressing) despite it not being fully his fault as were not helping him fulfill his potential, lol.
 

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I think his growth will kinda be stunted by the lack of quality around him tbh.

Then he will probably get railed on this forum for not progressing (or regressing) despite it not being fully his fault as were not helping him fulfill his potential, lol.
Nah, he'll be fine with the players around him. If he struggles, then it won't be down to that. Plenty of players impress in far lesser teams.
 

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Nah, he'll be fine with the players around him. If he struggles, then it won't be down to that. Plenty of players impress in far lesser teams.
Yeah, big fish small pond, but then they have to make a step up, and unless the players they are with can help them improve, its a a stunted growth. That can translate to most walks of life, including and especially football.
 

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What he impresses me with his ability to pick out a pass. In situations where Darmian just smacks it long aimlessly, he finds the angle and plays an accurate pass.
 

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He has impressed me so far. He actually looks better attacking wise than Shaw looked last season when he started playing for us.

But no doubt after one bad performance lots of people here will say he is shite and nowhere near good enough and that some here like him only because he is from our academy.
 

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He has impressed me so far. He actually looks better attacking wise than Shaw looked last season when he started playing for us.

But no doubt after one bad performance lots of people here will say he is shite and nowhere near good enough and that some here like him only because he is from our academy.
He has done good job so far. He has been properly tested by the opponents ( unlike Blacket who looked class until had to some defending)?
 

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I don't think he is actually very good. He's neither exceptionally athletic nor skilled.
 

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Can you post the contents of the article if it isn't behind a paywall, won't let AdBlocked browsers view the article.
United are planning to splash the cash... to keep Cameron Borthwick-Jackson at Old Trafford.

Louis van Gaal will give the young left-back a new £10,000-a-week deal this week, according to the Daily Mirror.

That figure would represent a 500 per cent pay rise for the England Under-19 man, who reportedly earns around £2,000 a week at the moment.

Borthwick-Jackson has impressed in recent weeks, breaking into the first team and impressing in the 1-0 win over Liverpool at Anfield a week ago.

It looks like he will be given an extended run in the United side with Ashley Young ruled out for up to three months after undergoing groin surgery.

First-choice left back Luke Shaw is a long-term casualty after his double leg break in September, while Marcos Rojo is recovering from shoulder surgery.
 

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I don't think he is actually very good. He's neither exceptionally athletic nor skilled.
I second that. He's been reliable, which is good, to an extent. But Luke Shaw is far and away, head and shoulders above him. Shaw is only two years older. When Shaw was 18, he was playing a full season at Southampton.

Attacking wise, he's shown to cross the ball but he's be allowed to go up the pitch unmarked because team can exploit space behind him and he's really not that fast. His gangly arms and legs are deceiving his actual pace, which isn't all that good.

He's played only 258 minutes in the Premier League, with two starts - all United losses. He's been reliable for the most part, but his sample size and experience is way too small. He'll play because United have nobody else at the moment.
 

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Louis van Gaal will give the young left-back a new £10,000-a-week deal this week, according to the Daily Mirror.

That figure would represent a 500 per cent pay rise for the England Under-19 man, who reportedly earns around £2,000 a week at the moment.
400%
They cant even get that right.
 

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He has impressed me so far. He actually looks better attacking wise than Shaw looked last season when he started playing for us.

But no doubt after one bad performance lots of people here will say he is shite and nowhere near good enough and that some here like him only because he is from our academy.
I don't think he is actually very good. He's neither exceptionally athletic nor skilled.
Didn't even need a bad performence. Started doing it after encouraging starts now.
 

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I second that. He's been reliable, which is good, to an extent. But Luke Shaw is far and away, head and shoulders above him. Shaw is only two years older. When Shaw was 18, he was playing a full season at Southampton.
99% of 18 year olds in the world may as well stop playing then because they are no where near Luke Shaw at 18. Its as ridiculous a comment as the one in the Wilson thread about Ronaldo scoring almost a goal a game at the same age so Wilson has no future because he can't even score a goal a game in the Championship.
 

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99% of 18 year olds in the world may as well stop playing then because they are no where near Luke Shaw at 18. Its as ridiculous a comment as the one in the Wilson thread about Ronaldo scoring almost a goal a game at the same age so Wilson has no future because he can't even score a goal a game in the Championship.
A previous poster compared CBJ's attacking performances from 5 appearances that it was better than Shaw's attacking performances from his early days last year, I think that's where my point was going. Apologize for the lack of clarity/perspective.

It's not a ridiculous comment saying that Luke Shaw is better than CBJ. CBJ has time on his side, but he'll have to do a lot more to claim LB from Shaw...unless Shaw becomes a leftsided midfielder and makes a Bale type transition. If CBJ progresses and it's apparent that United have to have him in the side because he's that good, then that's a good situation to be in.

As long as CBJ is reliable and doesn't have too many glaring mistakes, then good for him and the club. But playing on the safe side of things will only get him so far. If we want enterprising stuff, he's got to show it with the time he'll be given. Defending, pass, support, repeat. It's his for the taking right now and we hope he takes it because everybody wants him to succeed. If he does good, the team should obviously benefit and do good as well.
 

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A previous poster compared CBJ's attacking performances from 5 appearances that it was better than Shaw's attacking performances from his early days last year, I think that's where my point was going. Apologize for the lack of clarity/perspective.

It's not a ridiculous comment saying that Luke Shaw is better than CBJ. CBJ has time on his side, but he'll have to do a lot more to claim LB from Shaw...unless Shaw becomes a leftsided midfielder and makes a Bale type transition. If CBJ progresses and it's apparent that United have to have him in the side because he's that good, then that's a good situation to be in.

As long as CBJ is reliable and doesn't have too many glaring mistakes, then good for him and the club. But playing on the safe side of things will only get him so far. If we want enterprising stuff, he's got to show it with the time he'll be given. Defending, pass, support, repeat. It's his for the taking right now and we hope he takes it because everybody wants him to succeed. If he does good, the team should obviously benefit and do good as well.
Or the fact that he might not come back from the injury the same player.
 

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Or the fact that he might not come back from the injury the same player.
While that is very possible, just like CBJ not being the world-beater we all want to see, that's a grim outlook on Shaw. Physically he'll cope because he's young, he was in great shape prior to getting hurt and it was thankfully a clean break. I'm more interested in his mental side and how he reacts to getting stuck in for a tackle.

But again, if CBJ takes his chance then whoever is manager will have to decide if one of them plays or if both can play together in the same side.
 

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While that is very possible, just like CBJ not being the world-beater we all want to see, that's a grim outlook on Shaw. Physically he'll cope because he's young, he was in great shape prior to getting hurt and it was thankfully a clean break. I'm more interested in his mental side and how he reacts to getting stuck in for a tackle.

But again, if CBJ takes his chance then whoever is manager will have to decide if one of them plays or if both can play together in the same side.
Having a bone heal 100% isn't an exact science. He might end up with some pain to follow him and that might affect him mentally. It's tough to say, people are very mentally different. Jones is always injured but that doesn't seem to faze him at all.
 

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Didn't even need a bad performence. Started doing it after encouraging starts now.
I'm often one to suggest we give youth players the benefit of the doubt. He has played a few performances now, and while we can't say he's been dreadful, he hasn't shown anything that promising either. People hate blackett here but you can't fault him for his size and athleticism. CBJ doesn't have either, from these games we've seen. I'm entitled to hold that opinion :confused:
 

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I'm often one to suggest we give youth players the benefit of the doubt. He has played a few performances now, and while we can't say he's been dreadful, he hasn't shown anything that promising either. People hate blackett here but you can't fault him for his size and athleticism. CBJ doesn't have either, from these games we've seen. I'm entitled to hold that opinion :confused:
He's 18 and is maybe an inch shorter than Blackett, he has yet to fill out, that is obvious, he is also not slow. For someone who is a natural centre back he is about where you'd want him. He also has a good eye for a pass and is extremely calm on the ball, arguably at 18, two things infinitely more important than his "size and athleticism"
 

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He's 18 and is maybe an inch shorter than Blackett, he has yet to fill out, that is obvious, he is also not slow. For someone who is a natural centre back he is about where you'd want him. He also has a good eye for a pass and is extremely calm on the ball, arguably at 18, two things infinitely more important than his "size and athleticism"
Thats where we disagree, because at senior level I have seen nothing that indicates he is calm on the ball or has a good eye for a pass.
 

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Impressing me more and more. Would love to see him get chances even when all our fullbacks are fit again.
 

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he looks very mature with his performances so far, great on the ball and that extra bit of height is quite a plus for a wide player, will be interesting to see if he becomes CB or LB, as it wont take long and Luke is back and we might be in the market for a CB again.. lets see, but hes on of the upsides of recent weeks for me, really like to see promising lads from the academy doing well, wasnt actually expecting particularly him to be given chance but fair paly to him he took his chances well so far..
 

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I really like the cut of his jib, shame he's not a RB as when Shaw comes back it's going to be harder for him to get games.
 

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This kid so far is not bad at all. Surprises me how calm he seems. I hope he continues to improve.

Love his nickname 'BJ':lol: What you lot like on the Caf?:lol:
 
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