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SteveJ

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All they have to do is put a man on Rooney, and he'll probably get sent off because of frustration.
 

CG1010

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He will be left completely alone to do as he pleases by West Ham and use the spare player to double up on Martial.
 

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Saw some of the u21's game and he looked much more comfortable playing free in Warren Joyce's faster system that he uses.
 

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All they have to do is put a man on Rooney, and he'll probably get sent off because of frustration.
Imagine a player with his first touch getting pressed by faster and younger players. I would consider him doing well as a midfielder if he would have the technical ability and positional awareness needed to compensate for declining physical attributes but I just don't think he has that.
 

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fecking hell, he's still our top scorer...

How bad can a team be where the top scorer has played 75% of the games and has been woeful in 90% of them?
 

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Probably Rooney. Not the point, though.

I'm surprised that he's still our top scorer.
It is the point if he has been playing the most in the scoring position. If Martial had been playing there I'd bet he would be our top scorer.
 

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so what makes him a better player, his atrocious first touch, or his amazing speed? total lack of agility? his fantastic dribbling ability, how he goes past players? or just the fact how he argues with referee everytime he fecks up, workrate? Hold up play? Counterattacking ability? He is fecking useless in all of this, he might have a better vision and shot from distance but all his abilities mentioned let him down so doesnt have time to execute it, experience is so overrated, he fecked up so many times this season it's unbelievable... What makes him more useful player than Rashford for us?

He is still extremely overrated here, his reputation just give some of you hope that he is capable of what he used to be but he's absolutely done and unusable for top football. Rashford on the other hand even very raw player never looked out of place and scored some nice goals against top opponents and created other chances. Ask how many people would start Rooney over Rashford.

Would rather play Depay/Januzaj up front than that dross
Because Messi says so and they have mutual respect for each other. If Messi says he is a top player then both in a logical and emotional sense it must be true, and recent performances and seasons gone count for nothing
There, I said it!
 

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Rooney won't feature tomorrow night, but is nailed on for a start on Saturday.

In his 60 minutes lastnite, he settled further into his Gerrard-role. The role of a has-been that we laughed at in the autumn of Gerrard's career. Trying speculative, outlandish crossfield balls until one eventually comes off. He done this lastnite for the U21's, time after time. It came off once, at the expense of Borthwick-Jackson bursting a lung to keep the ball in play. His free-kick that allegedly just missed the crossbar, was well over and well wide.

Our talismanic leader and captain looked off-pace against a bunch of kids. Yes he's just back from injury, but his first touch is still brutal & his lack of running was as evident as ever. He'll never change now, ship him out to anyone that will take him off our hands. Work on the future, the youth. Get rid of the rot... Rooney, LVG & his backroom cronies all need to go sooner rather than later.
 

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Because Messi says so and they have mutual respect for each other. If Messi says he is a top player then both in a logical and emotional sense it must be true, and recent performances and seasons gone count for nothing
There, I said it!
best argument ever, I bet he has seen like 5 United games past 5 years
 

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We need the thuggish Rooney back - this tame, friend-to-all Rooney is shite.
You guys just don't get it do you? Whatever the hell attitude Rooney doesn't change the fact that he's so far in decline he will never go back to where he was. All these "i want that Rooney back" bullshit really grinds on me because it's so ignorant. The Rooney of 09/10 is where he is. In bloody 09/10. Stop living in the past.
 

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You guys just don't get it do you? Whatever the hell attitude Rooney doesn't change the fact that he's so far in decline he will never go back to where he was. All these "i want that Rooney back" bullshit really grinds on me because it's so ignorant. The Rooney of 09/10 is where he is. In bloody 09/10. Stop living in the past.
Yeesh, chill.
 

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Rooney won't feature tomorrow night, but is nailed on for a start on Saturday.

In his 60 minutes lastnite, he settled further into his Gerrard-role. The role of a has-been that we laughed at in the autumn of Gerrard's career. Trying speculative, outlandish crossfield balls until one eventually comes off. He done this lastnite for the U21's, time after time. It came off once, at the expense of Borthwick-Jackson bursting a lung to keep the ball in play. His free-kick that allegedly just missed the crossbar, was well over and well wide.

Our talismanic leader and captain looked off-pace against a bunch of kids. Yes he's just back from injury, but his first touch is still brutal & his lack of running was as evident as ever. He'll never change now, ship him out to anyone that will take him off our hands. Work on the future, the youth. Get rid of the rot... Rooney, LVG & his backroom cronies all need to go sooner rather than later.
Contrast iKeano's report with the Guardian's fawning account:

Jamie Jackson said:
During the 12 matches the United and England captain has missed he has seen himself become the victim of a reversal of the adage that a player becomes better during his absence. With each Harry Kane or Jamie Vardy goal for club or country, Rooney’s glittering track record seems to have receded in the national consciousness.

To recap, this is the season in which Rooney overtook Sir Bobby Charlton to become England’s record goalscorer with 51 strikes. And the finish he registered on 2 February in United’s 3-0 win against Stoke City at this ground took him to 244 for United, just five behind Charlton’s all-time mark of 249.

These are impressive statistics but do not tell of Rooney’s creative and totemic abilities. An illustration of the former came when a simple but crafty pass played in James Weir in the Middlesbrough area – he should have scored – and the latter was on show in the way Rooney continually encouraged an XI in which only Phil Jones is a genuine first-team player.
 

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Rooney won't feature tomorrow night, but is nailed on for a start on Saturday.

In his 60 minutes lastnite, he settled further into his Gerrard-role. The role of a has-been that we laughed at in the autumn of Gerrard's career. Trying speculative, outlandish crossfield balls until one eventually comes off. He done this lastnite for the U21's, time after time. It came off once, at the expense of Borthwick-Jackson bursting a lung to keep the ball in play. His free-kick that allegedly just missed the crossbar, was well over and well wide.

Our talismanic leader and captain looked off-pace against a bunch of kids. Yes he's just back from injury, but his first touch is still brutal & his lack of running was as evident as ever. He'll never change now, ship him out to anyone that will take him off our hands. Work on the future, the youth. Get rid of the rot... Rooney, LVG & his backroom cronies all need to go sooner rather than later.
What I came to post but worded better than I would have done. He was as shite as ever, he's done.
 

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Trying speculative, outlandish crossfield balls until one eventually comes off.
Same with his constant attempts at chipped goals. Is he that bored of playing for us that he has to amuse himself with these efforts instead of doing something truly proactive?
 

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Was Rothwell having a go at Rooney for his lack of running in support of him at 29:25? :lol:
 

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After this length of time off and only a few mins on tonight, I can't see him starting this weekend. Probably get a good 30min run out as a sub though.
 

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We didn't play with a 10 today. We played with a 433/4141, and there was a big difference to our play. Our best bit of form last season come with us playing that system. I don't know why we don't play it more often.
 

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Herrera maybe?

Hmm. When we play a 433, Herrera is normally deeper out of the two centre mids above the defensive midfielder. If Rooney does come into the team, it'll probably be for Fellaini, as the more advanced 8.

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Lingard Rashford Martial


Be a shame for Fellaini, though. I felt he was really good today, and gives us something to the rest of our players.
 

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Hmm. When we play a 433, Herrera is normally deeper out of the two centre mids above the defensive midfielder. If Rooney does come into the team, it'll probably be for Fellaini, as the more advanced 8.

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Be a shame for Fellaini, though. I felt he was really good today, and gives us something to the rest of our players.
I think this would be a nice compromise and if Rooney were to up his work rate it work. He has it in him to do well there because in a 4-3-3 the technique requirements are reduced because the two 8s can share the creative burden.
 
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