[Gandalf Greyhame]

Looks like something special, this young man. We should continue to give him chances up front as long as possible.
I hope that all the young talents who have been unearthed this season continue to develop into the next.

We don't really need to buy a lot of new players. A top class right winger, a star signing to phase out Rooney, a central midfielder. That's all. Maybe another centre back.

We have Rashford, Martial and Lingard showing promise in attack. BoJack, TFM, Varela looking good in defence.
And this is while some of our promising stars - Pereira, WIlsone and Januzaj - are yet to get their chances, and Memphis still taking his time.
All of these players should be afforded chances next season, too, no matter who the manager is.

 

[Norris]

Again, I don't buy this. It would have been perfectly fine, and even expected, if Rashford had performed like Wilson did over the last year, instead of how he has actually played. Nobody would have criticised him for not performing despite seemingly having some sort of ideal conditions to do so. Likewise, no reason why Wilson could not have turned in Rashford like performances. If he had done, the conversation old be different.

Also, I still also disagree with these assertions of their respective abilities. Players are to be judged on what they show, not hypotheticals. And Wilson is not faster than Rashford in my opinion either. From your description, Wilson is basically the better player, where's in reality, he isn't. They are both young players, so no absolutes, it isn't like he's proven it already and is just off form. He's yet to prove it at any real level. It's like insisting Quaresma is 'better than Ronaldo', or 'Fabio is the better twin'. If they were, then they would be.

But you are basically comparing the success/failure of two youngsters in two very different set-ups, which is very unfair imo. Not to forget they are two very different types of players as well, so it's virtually impossible to suggest how Rashford would have performed in the conditions which were provided to Willo or vice versa. That said, you are right in that one has delivered on this stage and the other has been stuttering.

What I have said are not hypotheticals. Like I said I am a huge Rashford fanboy, but I still think Willo is the more naturally talented. It's been backed up by how quickly he progressed through each age group. He was always playing at a level which was 2-3 years greater than his age group. He's also won the Jimmy Murphy young player of the year (which Rashford might win this year, though I don't know the rules for it). All these are accolades which indicate how highly Willo was rated. On the other hand, Rashford only started playing for the U21s this year and that too most of his appearances have been as subs. If you compare him to someone in his same age group, Alex Tuanzebe actually was a bedrock for U21s this year if I am not mistaken and played a lot of games for them, until his injury. He also won the same award Willo won two years ago. None of these are hypotheticals. These are all accolades bestowed upon these youngsters by the coaching staff and players. They get to see these players everyday, so I wouldn't doubt them really. And you can't really judge something like "Player A is better than Player B" and suggest that if it is true than he has to prove it so early. That's something which should be discussed after their respective careers are over. Everyone develops in different ways and injuries also play a huge part. So there is no saying how their careers will progress. But in terms of natural ability, I still rate Wilson as the better talent.

 

[Perrick Dubois]

Absolutely sensational finish.

 

[Mockney]

But you are basically comparing the success/failure of two youngsters in two very different set-ups, which is very unfair imo. Not to forget they are two very different types of players as well, so it's virtually impossible to suggest how Rashford would have performed in the conditions which were provided to Willo or vice versa. That said, you are right in that one has delivered on this stage and the other has been stuttering.

What I have said are not hypotheticals. Like I said I am a huge Rashford fanboy, but I still think Willo is the more naturally talented. It's been backed up by how quickly he progressed through each age group. He was always playing at a level which was 2-3 years greater than his age group. He's also won the Jimmy Murphy young player of the year (which Rashford might win this year, though I don't know the rules for it). All these are accolades which indicate how highly Willo was rated. On the other hand, Rashford only started playing for the U21s this year and that too most of his appearances have been as subs. If you compare him to someone in his same age group, Alex Tuanzebe actually was a bedrock for U21s this year if I am not mistaken and played a lot of games for them, until his injury. He also won the same award Willo won two years ago. None of these are hypotheticals. These are all accolades bestowed upon these youngsters by the coaching staff and players. They get to see these players everyday, so I wouldn't doubt them really. And you can't really judge something like "Player A is better than Player B" and suggest that if it is true than he has to prove it so early. That's something which should be discussed after their respective careers are over. Everyone develops in different ways and injuries also play a huge part. So there is no saying how their careers will progress. But in terms of natural ability, I still rate Wilson as the better talent.

 

[Charlie Foley]

It isn't really lobbying. Whilst you have a point about Rashford's goals, I think he have found it easier playing in a team like he has compared to what Willo had to contend with. There was little pressure on him, compared to how much there was on Willo.
Even though I have been a Rashford fan boy for over a year now, I still think Willo is the more naturally gifted of the two. He's faster, excellent close control, very good technique and a usually ruthless and calm finisher. He just needs to sort himself out mentally.

That's terrifying

 

[Norris]

That's terrifying

To be honest, I've read a lot contrasting reviews about the pace. Some say Rashford has better change of direction, but Willo is quicker laterally. But I think Willo has better ability to run with the ball at speed. He's probably not as skillful as Rashford though.

 

[Kaos]

What I love is how much of a big game player he is.

It's common to have talented youngsters who run riot against cannon fodder teams only to disappear in the big games. Rashford however has essentially won us the the games against Arsenal, City and a very good West Ham side. And he's still 18!

 

[spenzo]

To be honest, I've read a lot contrasting reviews about the pace. Some say Rashford has better change of direction, but Willo is quicker laterally. But I think Willo has better ability to run with the ball at speed. He's probably not as skillful as Rashford though.

Yeah it's exactly that. Wilson is quicker with or without the ball at his feet but Rashford is more adept technically at beating a man or making sharp incisive movements at speed. Could be potentially terrifying for opposition having both in our side.

 

[Van Piorsing]

Looks like LvG found his new Patrick Kluivert.

Nice rotation and even nicer composure.

 

[marlowe78]

Wonder goal!

 

[Norris]

Could be potentially terrifying for opposition having both in our side.

Yeah a front four of Martial, Willo, Rashford, Memphis/Lingard could see us having one of the fastest attacking groups in the world. Really frightening if all those players reach their true potential. It's amazing how just over a year ago, all of us were complaining about the lack of pace and how we weren't the United of old. But those four there are the epitome of United. Pace, Width, World Class Imports (Fingers crossed on Memphis), Excellent youth academic products to complement them.

 

[RedRevongge]

Rashford has been incredible considering the circumstances. I think in a few years time we could have a great player on our hands. I hope we don't overplay him as he is still very young. I also think in the long run it would be bad if England called him up for the euros as expectation would be immense.

Also can everyone stop calling Wilson "Willo". Its as bad as "Wazza" in my opinion

 

[VorZakone]

Just saw his goal vs West Ham. Wow. Amazing talent.

 

[Treble]

He's surpassed all expectations. I'm eager to see what happens when Rooney is back. Will both play or Rashford gets benched?

 

[Inigo Montoya]

He's surpassed all expectations. I'm eager to see what happens when Rooney is back. Will both play or Rashford gets benched?

I would have said that Rooney would play in the Mata role rather than up front. Rashford and Martial's pace particularly suggest they would be difficult to drop

 

[devilish]

We've got a gem here

 

[adamwest]

He's been an absolute revelation. Clinical goals vs Arsenal, City and now in a cup quarter final. The younger players brought through as well as Martial's obvious talent have been the only bright spots this season.

 

[VP89]

I don't think he'll be better than Hernandez level for us. But probably basing this on gut more than logic.

 

[devilish]

I don't think he'll be better than Hernandez level for us. But probably basing this on gut more than logic.

He's already a more complete player then Hernandez.

 

[VP89]

He's already a more complete player then Hernandez.

No he's not.

 

[devilish]

No he's not.

He is. Hernandez was a goal poacher. Rashford may not have developed Chica's killer instinct just yet but he's faster and has more technique.

 

[LuisNaniencia]

He is. Hernandez was a goal poacher. Rashford may not have developed Chica's killer instinct just yet but he's faster and has more technique.

Up until that West ham goal I may have agreed with the Hernandez comparison, now I see a lot more in Rashford.

 

[VP89]

He is. Hernandez was a goal poacher. Rashford may not have developed Chica's killer instinct just yet but he's faster and has more technique.

Hernandez has scored goals for Leverkusen and from his loan spells at Real Madrid that equal or beat Rashford's quality vs West Ham.

Don't get the speed reference, Rashford is quick but he's not a speed merchent compared to Hernandez. His build up play is no different either (so far. Conceeding he's 18 so can grow, but my call is just a gut feeling). Hernandez also carries more threat arially.

 

[limerickcitykid]

Also can everyone stop calling Wilson "Willo". Its as bad as "Wazza" in my opinion

No

 

[SATA]

I will be delighted if he turns out a career eventually similar to Hernandez, never mind better

 

[RedRevongge]

I will be delighted if he turns out a career eventually similar to Hernandez, never mind better

Sold to Leverkusen then scores a bucket load?

Jokes

 

[m1y2]

Hernandez has scored goals for Leverkusen and from his loan spells at Real Madrid that equal or beat Rashford's quality vs West Ham.

Don't get the speed reference, Rashford is quick but he's not a speed merchent compared to Hernandez. His build up play is no different either (so far. Conceeding he's 18 so can grow, but my call is just a gut feeling). Hernandez also carries more threat arially.

why are people underrating Rashford's speed, he's super quick, his first three strides are quicker than any other player in the team IMO, and that's what counts not top speed and I am not so sure he's slower than Hernandez on top speed either rather other way around, Hernandez wasn't that quick, he just liked to beat the offside trap so he gave us impression he's as quick as bolt, and also he wasn't any flashy, just clinical finisher so we just said he has his speed..

Think Rashford already has more to his game than Chicharito who is just now playing in a great team which creates chances for him so he can finish them inside the box, that's what he was brilliant in but never a starter for us, Rashford has a great potential, I would like to think that he is more than a simple impact player coming from the bench..

 

[pseudo_canadian]

2014 Milk Cup.

That step-over and ball roll

 

[jb8521]

It doesn't mean a huge amount in terms of effectiveness but in terms of overall top speed Chicharito got some attention for having a top speed of 32.15 kmph at the World Cup but Rashford was recorded at 34.41 kmph against City, Martial and Vardy have the joint top speed in the Premiership this year at 35.4 kmph

 

[Drainy]

yeah but feelings

 

[Isotope]

Although he's less than half my age, he's my new favorite player. When he got the ball, I'm expecting something good coming out. What do I know, though. I thought Welbeck would be future United legend.

I hope injuries goddes is being kind to him. And United next manager is willing to put effort developing him.

 

[togg]

We've got a gem here

Yep, I agree. Certainly a very exciting prospect and I hope we develop him well. One thing LVG has done is give our youngsters a really good opportunity, although it could be argued it has been forced on him somewhat. However, credit where it is due. Fosu Mensah being another one that I believe has really really good potential.

 

[Fazer]

Yeah a front four of Martial, Willo, Rashford, Memphis/Lingard could see us having one of the fastest attacking groups in the world. Really frightening if all those players reach their true potential. It's amazing how just over a year ago, all of us were complaining about the lack of pace and how we weren't the United of old. But those four there are the epitome of United. Pace, Width, World Class Imports (Fingers crossed on Memphis), Excellent youth academic products to complement them.

Can you imagine the pace we would have with that front four you mentioned and having Shaw and TFM overlapping?

 

[togg]

Can you imagine the pace we would have with that front four you mentioned and having Shaw and TFM overlapping?

Yeah...one forgets about Shaw to be honest. I just hope he comes back the player he was before the injury. Those sorts of injuries can really affect a player mentally....take less risks....worry about hard challenges. However, many are fine...hope he's one of them.

 

[Trizy]

I thought Shaw and Martial were fast but this lad took the piss against West Ham early enough chasing the ball down the left wing, he didn't get there but my word what pace!

 

[Crashoutcassius]

Getting more and more scared that we'll appoint mourinho and sign ibrahimovic and have two 30+ strikers ahead of him as we finish 2nd in the league

 

[Scorpy]

Also can everyone stop calling Wilson "Willo". Its as bad as "Wazza" in my opinion

At least it's better than Hargo.

 

[GledTheRed]

No he's not.

Yes he is

 

[Kraftwerker]

Thinking of Triple Captaining him in my Fantasy team this weekend.

Stupid or a good gamble? (have a 100+ point gap to catch).

We have consecutive home games against Villa and Crystal Palace in a double game week.

 

[Perrick Dubois]

Thinking of Triple Captaining him in my Fantasy team this weekend.

Stupid or a good gamble? (have a 100+ point gap to catch).

We have consecutive home games against Villa and Crystal Palace in a double game week.

Will get dropped for Rooney if you do. Stone waller.