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ivaldo

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its all well and good but if scholes put in that performance tonight then people would be eating it up and giving nothing but praise. He certainly spread the play today and thats a big reason why Darmian and Valencia looked way better in attack than normal because Rooney found them in space higher up the pitch. I just dont understand the attitude of fans that want to undermine and criticize positive displays just to fit in with an agenda that hes 'past it'. Maybe he is past it but that performance was very good none the less so dont pretend it wasnt. I have to say im genuinely intrigued what people would want Rooney to do in that game, apart from score theres not alot hes done wrong.
They played well because we were up against CP reserves with a grand total of nothing to play for. That's the easiest game we will have this season, by some distance.

I have no problem with Rooney, he's been a superb player for us and will be a genuine legend, that doesn't mean I'll pretend he's still at the required standard, you people are literally dribbling at any chance to praise the bloke.

He was afforded endless amount of time on the ball today and he did the same thing as he does every single fecking time he picks up the ball deep, he looks to play it high and wide to the fullback, he's almost become a parody of himself. A good footballer, an intelligent footballer picks the pass that's most likely to lead to a goal, Rooney is hooked on the cross field pass like Kerry Katona is to heroine. He doesn't even consider what to do with it, Rashford could be standing on his own through on goal and Rooney wouldn't notice him. The funniest thing is you're taken in by it! I'll say it again, if he switches it to get it out of a crowded area, far enough, if he plays it beyond the opposition fullback, fair enough, if he drills it as to force the opposition to scramble thier defense across, fair enough. But he doesn't any of those things, it's mindless regurgitation of something he's seen Scholesy do. All it shows is a complete lack of understanding as to how to play the position.
 

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If that tonight was considered good then it's another testament to how standards have slipped, he strolled around and hit a few passes to the wings, his lack of mobility and the fact he can't dribble past anyone made him and Mata a one paced combination in front of the water carrier.
 

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I've read them. Quote the posts that said he was terrible *tonight*
I mean they dont literally use the words terrible but then nor do i in any of my posts so i dont get your point... My point however, was that he was very good tonight while others are saying he was average or played like fellaini or schniderlin when thats simply not true. Many more posters have completely written him off and refuse to praise positive displays and thats frustrating when he plays well.
 

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Should had scored in the 1st half but otherwise was good tonight(Crystal Palace H).. Still ways behind the level I expect of him to be, but at least he's healthy and roaring to play.
 

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:lol:

I bet Pirlo was jealous.
Right because i said that, this thread is a joke, praise a good performance get bombarded with people telling you why hes actually shit and everything youve just watched didnt happen.
 

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He was good today, but given he's our captain and best paid player I would like to see much more from him in a game where the opposition could barely bother to play.
 

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I mean they dont literally use the words terrible but then nor do i in any of my posts so i dont get your point... My point however, was that he was very good tonight while others are saying he was average or played like fellaini or schniderlin when thats simply not true. Many more posters have completely written him off and refuse to praise positive displays and thats frustrating when he plays well.
There were complaints he was getting loads of stick tonight. I've asked you to quote it and you can't. Nobody has said tonight he was terrible, shit, dreadful. I think "average" was the strongest description. Not exactly the hate you referred to is it?

Some of you guys have developed a victim complex on his behalf.
 

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He was OK today. Seemed lighter on his feet and picked the right the passes.

But I've got a nagging feeling that we've changed shape to accommodate him and played him in a position that is his best shot at getting into the England 11.
 

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It was an acceptable performance tonight, not particularly good or bad on the whole. A few nice diagonals with the odd messy moment.
 

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Right because i said that, this thread is a joke, praise a good performance get bombarded with people telling you why hes actually shit and everything youve just watched didnt happen.
Hey, don't blame me, if Rooney had any hair on him I would've definitely thought I watched Pirlo tonight. But with hair like that, he looked more like Shelvey.
 

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Right because i said that, this thread is a joke, praise a good performance get bombarded with people telling you why hes actually shit and everything youve just watched didnt happen.
Haha where? Nobody has said he was shit.
 

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They played well because we were up against CP reserves with a grand total of nothing to play for. That's the easiest game we will have this season, by some distance.

I have no problem with Rooney, he's been a superb player for us and will be a genuine legend, that doesn't mean I'll pretend he's still at the required standard, you people are literally dribbling at any chance to praise the bloke.

He was afforded endless amount of time on the ball today and he did the same thing as he does every single fecking time he picks up the ball deep, he looks to play it high and wide to the fullback, he's almost become a parody of himself. A good footballer, an intelligent footballer picks the pass that's most likely to lead to a goal, Rooney is hooked on the cross field pass like Kerry Katona is to heroine. He doesn't even consider what to do with it, Rashford could be standing on his own through on goal and Rooney wouldn't notice him. The funniest thing is you're taken in by it! I'll say it again, if he switches it to get it out of a crowded area, far enough, if he plays it beyond the opposition fullback, fair enough, if he drills it as to force the opposition to scramble thier defense across, fair enough. But he doesn't any of those things, it's mindless regurgitation of something he's seen Scholesy do. All it shows is a complete lack of understanding as to how to play the position.
The guy has a good passing range i have no idea why that should be used as a weakness! His interplay the rest of the game was decent anyway, we areant exactly playing fast tempo football so not sure what hes meant to do in that regard. And i agree that CP team was shocking but at the end of the day you can only play whats infront of you. I really dont see whats wrong with giving a player praise after a good display
 

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He was OK today. Seemed lighter on his feet and picked the right the passes.

But I've got a nagging feeling that we've changed shape to accommodate him and played him in a position that is his best shot at getting into the England 11.
That's exactly what I was thinking, he's got more chance of pushing Dele Alli out of the starting 11 than Kane, so we are now seeing Rooney the AM in a 4-3-3.
 

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He was OK today. Seemed lighter on his feet and picked the right the passes.

But I've got a nagging feeling that we've changed shape to accommodate him and played him in a position that is his best shot at getting into the England 11.
This is what is annoying. Shoehorning him into the team. We have better midfielders. We have better strikers. Keep him on the bench and when Rashford comes off put him on then.
 

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There were complaints he was getting loads of stick tonight. I've asked you to quote it and you can't. Nobody has said tonight he was terrible, shit, dreadful. I think "average" was the strongest description. Not exactly the hate you referred to is it?

Some of you guys have developed a victim complex on his behalf.
You guys, you guys.... what the hell is this place that we now have a divide between Rooney haters and fanbois, grow up. How can you not see the bias when after a GOOD display people say 'thats why he should be sold' or words to that meaning.
 

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That's exactly what I was thinking, he's got more chance of pushing Dele Alli out of the starting 11 than Kane, so we are now seeing Rooney the AM in a 4-3-3.
He shouldn't get in ahead of Dele Alli but I can see Hodgeson shoe horning the two of them in as a pair of 8's with a DM behind.
 

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The guy has a good passing range i have no idea why that should be used as a weakness! His interplay the rest of the game was decent anyway, we areant exactly playing fast tempo football so not sure what hes meant to do in that regard. And i agree that CP team was shocking but at the end of the day you can only play whats infront of you. I really dont see whats wrong with giving a player praise after a good display
How have you interpreted me into saying he has a good passing range? Actually Whacking a pass out to an unmarked fullback when you have all the time in the world isn't impressive. Being a good passer would ensure he occasionally plays something of a difficult pass, something difficult and creativem he's played the same pass, again and again and again without getting us anywhere. He's in midfield playing the creative role! He should be dictating our passing game.
 

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I don't think he played at AM today. He seemed to be just ahead of Schniderlin to my eyes anyways. This is the formation we have all been asking for all season and now when he plays it we blame it on shuffling for Rooney to fit in.
 

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You're seeing criticism that doesn't exist pal. He's been described as average, ok, mediocre. Which he was.
Thats criticism when its leveled at a good display that was above many performances we've seen from our CMs this year
 

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He shouldn't get in ahead of Dele Alli but I can see Hodgeson shoe horning the two of them in as a pair of 8's with a DM behind.
With Henderson injured I guess that other #8 spot has opened up and he'd get the seniority spot over Drinkwater.
 

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Good game from him. Added some composure and creativity to our midfield and kept things ticking with his passing. Much better than seeing the snails Fellaini and Carrick in midfield.
 

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Check the edited post and no, because he doesnt have posters pretending what he did was impressive.
I see lots of other posters saying good game yet they seem to be going under the radar... strange that.
 

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I don't think he'll ever recieve any praise here unless he scores 4 and assists 6 and saves a goal or two on the line. And even then people will say he's not worth 300k. A good performance today and it was far better than having Carrick/Fellaini play instead.
I think Carrick should be let go and playing Fellaini in a midfield two is just stupid.

That isn't much of a defense. I am not saying Rooney is totally finished and wouldn't even cut in the championship like some have suggested.

But consistently over the last few years his perfomances haven't been good enough ,especially for a talisman. he is an embodiment of what we are as our club. Highly decorated ,record-breaking but slow,living of past glories and hoping that things will get better again,like they were years ago,based on very little evidence but hope.
 

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I think Carrick should be let go and playing Fellaini in a midfield two is just stupid.

That isn't much of a defense. I am not saying Rooney is totally finished and wouldn't even cut in the championship like some have suggested.

But consistently over the last few years his perfomances haven't been good enough ,especially for a talisman. he is an embodiment of what we are as our club. Highly decorated ,record-breaking but slow,living of past glories and hoping that things will get better again,like they were years ago,based on very little evidence but hope.
I do agree with what youve said and no question he hasnt been good enough however, does he also not deserve a chance to play under a better system than the one LVG introduces that has quite frankly regressed half the team.
 

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I see lots of other posters saying good game yet they seem to be going under the radar... strange that.
Ignore the post then mate, keep beleiving Rooney had displayed a 'good passing range'. Laughable.
 

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Some funny comments, thought he played his role well the past 2 games.
 

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If that tonight was considered good then it's another testament to how standards have slipped, he strolled around and hit a few passes to the wings, his lack of mobility and the fact he can't dribble past anyone made him and Mata a one paced combination in front of the water carrier.
Bang on
 

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I think fans have the right to be sceptical about Wayne Rooney. It's what he represents more than his ability that really annoys me and possibly other fans.

Wayne is quickly becoming the most overrated player in terms of media hype and if the fans don't speak up no one would. He earns more than what the top performers earn and every fan has the right to demand a performance that matches with it, regardless of past history. If Memphis puts in a 4, we should expect a 6 from Rooney if he is truly to carry that "top player" tag. But unfortunately he is not a top player anymore and he is on a decline and has been for years.

This is an issue that can't be easily dealt with because of his new found status and privileges which are unwarranted. Sentiments is what is killing this club and we are too loved up to see it. We are hiding behind past glories and history is meanwhile clubs that don't have either are catching up in football terms; the only way that currently matters.

Wayne Rooney epitomises this silly culture. He is the only player in the league without any competition. Only player in the squad that can walk into the team easily regardless of how long he's been out or how long he's been out of form. And we wonder why the likes of Januzaj and Pereira are faffing about when they know their captain can be sipping pina colada in a bikini at carrington and yet make the starting XI ahead of them, regardless.

The other reason is that for every minute he plays under LvG it further reinforces Wayne Rooney's place in squad next season even though he has been on the decline. What's worse is that the team shall always be built around him. I often wonder what would have become of Liverpool if they decided to give Gerrad the same treatment and build future teams around him cos Rooney is our Gerard. Teams get rid of captains and big players all the time even while at a decent level, Neville, Raul (a bigger legend for Madrid), Ronaldinho, van Bommel all come to mind.

It's time to move on. Out with the old, in with the new. This season is a write off anyway. The future is ahead and should be brighter.
 
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