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How do feel about José Mourinho's appointment as Man Utd manager?


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somehow i'm a bit underwhelmed by his appointment. I dont think its got anything to do with him. I just feel my capacity to be greatly optimistic about united has been tempered by the past three years of dissapointment:nervous:
 

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He looks old on that photo of him in the tshirt! He's got that shiny Shane Warne look going on
Don't like how he looks in the Adidas gear - looks like a tramp. He's United manager now, needs to do something about his wardrobe:)
 

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somehow i'm a bit underwhelmed by his appointment. I dont think its got anything to do with him. I just feel my capacity to be greatly optimistic about united has been tempered by the past three years of dissapointment:nervous:
Jesus christ you want to try supporting a lower league team if you want to discuss disappointment.
 

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Brilliant appointment. Have always been a fan of Mourinho's unlike some fans so delighted with the news.
 

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feck missed the announcement and all the twitter stuff, fecking university, knew i should have stayed at home all day on Redcafe.

Welcome Jose :drool::drool:
 

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Taking the next corner instead of Jones!

Rarely agree with Stan Collymore but on this is 100 per cent correct: Jose's been dreaming of United for years. Going back to Chelsea in 2013 happened solely because United (crazily) went for Moyes over him.

Amazing, we really went for Moyes over Mourinho. What the f-k were we thinking?!
The trouble is the double negative undoes his argument (football filosofers :lol:)

He really needs to drop the "those knocking" if the statement is to agree with his summary!
 

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I'm in the strange position of knowing that we've got a manager with a proven track record but still having reservations about him. Despite everything he's won it still feels like we're going out on a limb, partly down to last season, partly down to our desperation for a quick fix and partly down to the usual reservations about his track record with young players. Best case scenario, he gets the players he wants and can create something close to his great Chelsea sides. Cautiously optimistic sums it up I suppose.
Yeah, a bit of the same feeling here.
However, I really hope those at the club who are against the appointment find it in themselves to give him support; for a personality like José's, it's not good when people are grudging or unsupportive as it brings out the worst in him. This doesn't mean total support for everything he may do or say (if things start to go wrong)...but at least make some effort.
 

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I'd love to see Steve Bruce back at OT but the only, only, way that would happen is if he got Sunderland into the Europa league this season and won it the next, then I could see him getting the job, no probs. Realistically, unfortunately, that is never going to happen.
I can understand your thinking but you'd still have to take a step back and look at the cold hard facts.

Has he won a league before? No.

Has he even been involved in a league title race? No.

Has he ever taken a team beyond the last 16 in the Champions League? No.

Has he even played in the group stage of the Champions League? No.

Has he any Champions League experience whatsoever?! No.

This is the Manchester United Manager Job. The first time in 24 years (and counting), it has become availible. I would put my house on the fact that there is no a single manager in world football that could turn it down. The most unlikely to take the job is Arsene Wenger, for obvious reasons but I would even imagine that he would jump at the chance to take this job.

We won't be looking at Steve Bruce. We won't be looking at David Moyes and we certainly won't be looking at Mark Hughes.

We will look for at managers with a number of criteria.

1. Experience in a title race. Probably someone who has taken a, or a number of, team(s) to a League Title. The minimum would be a manager who has at least come close to winning a league (Premier, La Liga or Serie A).

2. Champions League Experience. There's actually only a very short list of Managers still active that have actually won the Champions League so if you were to draw up a shortlist you'd have to include Managers that have experience in Europe, who understand how to take a team at least through the group stage. Take a look at how dangerous it can be without that experience, look no further than Harry Redknapp who had a very sharp learning curve when he took his talented team away to Switzerland in the qualifiers this season and found out that 4-4-2 away from home is suicide.

That may be a very brash and obvious example but there are many, many finer points that Managers learn with experience. We're not a club that should once again spend a period with a Manager that needs time to gain that learning curve.

3. Age. Something that is certainly open to debate. We're a club that has had a single manager for 24 years. I know alot of people are expecting another "young" Manager that will form their legacy at the club over time, much like Ferguson has done. Has time changed too much for that though? Personally I wouldn't be too upset if we had Mourinho here working his magic for 3 or 4 years becaue I think he could win alot in that time and set us on the right track after the inevitable destabalising event of Ferguson's departure. I know alot of people would rather see a manager who could garentuee us he'd stick around for at least ten years and try to build something.


So how many managers fit these brackets? I can think of two.

Jose Mourinho, who is the standout candidate due to his success in the Premier League and his success at two other clubs where he won both the League and Champions League.

Pep Guardiola. I overlooked him earlier on in this post when I mentioned Wenger as the most unlikely to take the mantle at Old Trafford. Guardiola is at a successful club where he had a similar career to Giggs so it would be very difficult to get him.

Thats my take on the situation in a nutshell. In all honesty, right now, I am just so greatful Ferguson is still here. We really don;t know just how lucky we really are.

From 2010, I don't think I've ever been simultaneously so wrong and so right in a single post before.
 

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I'm glad Jose managed to get some experience before joining the biggest club in world football!
 

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I know he's going to bring his own support staff but would love to see Gary Neville given a job somewhere.

For me Neville, not Giggs, is the obvious choice if we want to groom someone for the manager's job long-term.

Yes he had a nightmare at Valencia but he's obviously a sharp and shrewd individual and, as England No.2, he's already proved he can add value as part of a backroom team.
Why should we groom anybody? We're a football club not a school

Gaz wants to be a manager, let him be a manager. Considering that Faria is a fiery type of manager, Id go for Queroz. He's Portuguese, he knows United very well, he's tactical and he's got that calming feeling around him.
 

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Yeah, a bit of the same feeling here.
However, I really hope those at the club who are against the appointment find it in themselves to give him support; for a personality like José's, it's not good when people are grudging or unsupportive as it brings out the worse in him. This doesn't mean total support for everything he may do or say (if things starts to go wrong)...but at least make some effort.
I think it's more important that Jose ignores any of that politics stuff and just gets on with the job. He will make a big mistake imo if he tries to cater or win over those that have reservations about him. What's the point? It'll be a waste of time. To consolidate his power, he needs to win, and that's all that should occupy his mind. You can't change what people think about you, if he tries to do that, it might derail him.
 

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I said all along there was no chance we'd sack Van Gaal and replace him with Mourinho. I knew it'd work! Haven't been this excited or positive about a season for many years! Now, let's get some signings in :D

Mourinho was always the right man to succeed SAF. I was so gutted when Moyes came in instead. He has the personality, confidence, people skills and pulling power to bring this club back to the top. It won't be easy though, this is probably the toughest task in his recent career at least. We have a team who have been gradually losing confidence and learning to play a dull, possession-based game with no end product. By all accounts we've got some dissent in the ranks, and some players who don't seem arsed at all. Jose will need to come in, separate the players who can still contribute positively, get rid of the chaff and bring in suitable replacements. All this in a year when the European Championships are on :/

I have faith though. He's going to have been planning this and be ready to be ruthless and he'll restore some of that confidence we lost just by being here. It's gonna be a summer like none before!
 

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How can anyone NOT be excited about this??? The thought of Guardiola getting schooled in the PL and finally earning his money for once is just too much. Gotta wait till fecking August now!

Now for Ibra, Willian, Rodriguez...

City are shitting themselves! :lol:
 

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I think it's more important that Jose ignores any of that politics stuff and just gets on with the job. He will make a big mistake imo if he tries to cater or win over those that have reservations about him. What's the point? It'll be a waste of time. To consolidate his power, he needs to win, and that's all that should occupy his mind. You can't change what people think about you, if he tries to do that, it might derail him.
I'm just worried that he might try to sideline/remove people like Sir Bobby, mate.
 

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How can anyone NOT be excited about this??? The thought of Guardiola getting schooled in the PL and finally earning his money for once is just too much. Gotta wait till fecking August now!

Now for Ibra, Willian, Rodriguez...

City are shitting themselves! :lol:
:nono:
 

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From 2010, I don't think I've ever been simultaneously so wrong and so right in a single post before.
You should be ashamed of yourself, where were you with your common sense and logical criteria when the United board were deciding to appoint fecking David Moyes.

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