Wumminator
The Qatar Pounder
That performance summed up why I don't think he'll do well in the Prem.
If we give him that sort of service/support we're fecked either way.That performance summed up why I don't think he'll do well in the Prem.
Worst team of the competition so far? Some of the football I saw yesterday was hard to watch.Sweden are terrible, so I wouldn't use the Euros to judge Ibra.
Yeah mate, presumably you think we shouldn't sign Kane or Lewandowski because both of them had even worse performance than him.That performance summed up why I don't think he'll do well in the Prem.
Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed it. Such a waste of his talents and yet had a part in Sweden's goal.He was used as if he were Fellaini in this game. What a waste.
But Ibrah on a free isn't much of a gamble. If he's shite, we just don't have to play him.That performance summed up why I don't think he'll do well in the Prem.
He was tightly marked all match; basically the Sweden team are so poor that Ireland focused all of their attention on Ibra and yet he still set up the goal. He's playing in, what looks like a very poor Sweden team. He had some good touches last night and one well taken shot that just went past the post. He was Sweden's best player after Olsson.That performance summed up why I don't think he'll do well in the Prem.
I'd actually say that's one of the larger risks we're taking with this signing. That approach might work with Memphis, but Zlatan isn't coming here to warm the bench. His ego will demand a starting spot each week, and with his no doubt ludicrous wages he'll get it. It's a risk we have to take regardless, the payoff is far too big not to, but if he flops - we're fecked. It would be the Rooney situation all over again.But Ibrah on a free isn't much of a gamble. If he's shite, we just don't have to play him.
Mourinho will have absolutely no problem benching him don't worry about thatI'd actually say that's one of the larger risks we're taking with this signing. That approach might work with Memphis, but Zlatan isn't coming here to warm the bench. His ego will demand a starting spot each week, and with his no doubt ludicrous wages he'll get it. It's a risk we have to take regardless, the payoff is far too big not to, but if he flops - we're fecked. It would be the Rooney situation all over again.
It's still a gamble as he'll be taking up a spot in our squad. If he's shit, we're down a striker. Not to mention we'd probably have to put up with him being shit for a good while, similar to Falcao.But Ibrah on a free isn't much of a gamble. If he's shite, we just don't have to play him.
Like any transfer, it's a risk. But to suggest that performance alone sums up your feelings is just unwise. Why judge him on a single or a few performances and not on an outstanding career?That performance summed up why I don't think he'll do well in the Prem.
Like he did with Ivanovic?Mourinho will have absolutely no problem benching him don't worry about that
I'd say Chelsea had poor back up options to ivanovic. We have rashford and martial. My point is mourinho isn't the type of manager to worry about hurting a big egoLike he did with Ivanovic?
Nah, players are overrated and too risky to sign, these days.Apparently Bale was crap for Wales too and scored a fluky free kick. Is there anyone worth signing?
I have the same doubts.I'm not basing my whole opinion of Zlatan on that one game. I'm saying that game is how I would imagine his move would end up.
Zlatan is not just another ageing starI have the same doubts.
I am kind of hoping that his insistence on participating in the Olympics scuppers the move and we go looking for a different option. We do not need to become a temporary destination for another ageing stars final big club hurrah.
If Ligue 1 isn't poor, then why is he only being expected to score 20+ in the PL?Even if you buy into the whole 'Ligue 1 is shite' thing as a reason for not wanting him, his level over there is still incredible. I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that 50 goals over there would translate to 20 something over here. Those are numbers we could do with, and we're unlikely to find them elsewhere. Plus, if the subpar opposition is the reason he's trouncing it every week, why did he not make mincemeat of that Irish defence? It's much more likely to be a combination of poor team mates and a personal off day than anything else.
Still it was him fixing Swedens "goal"If Ligue 1 isn't poor, then why is he only being expected to score 20+ in the PL?
I read a lot of people saying stuff like Ligue 1 isn't poor and that Ibrahimovic is in amazing shape, so why shouldn't he be scoring 30+ goals in the Premier league next season?
I can't help shaking the feeling with Ibrahimovic that if he actually as good as this forum seems to think he is, then why aren't other teams in for him.
He was up against 2 poor premier league defenders yesterday and was one of Sweden's poorest performing players.
I never said it wasn't poor. Anyone can see the standard of the league as a whole is below the top European divisions.If Ligue 1 isn't poor, then why is he only being expected to score 20+ in the PL?
I read a lot of people saying stuff like Ligue 1 isn't poor and that Ibrahimovic is in amazing shape, so why shouldn't he be scoring 30+ goals in the Premier league next season?
I can't help shaking the feeling with Ibrahimovic that if he actually as good as this forum seems to think he is, then why aren't other teams in for him.
He was up against 2 poor premier league defenders yesterday and was one of Sweden's poorest performing players.
For me personal Veratti has got time and the legs to adapt and try at a higher level. Ibra has been at that level for years but is now declining and will not be able to adapt to a more demanding league.Zlatan gets beaten with the "shit league" stick, despite proving he's capable in various leagues. Why doesn't Veratti get the same treatment, who has only done it in Ligue Un and Serie B? I'd imagine most of this forum would pay any fee to see Veratti here, but the supposed shit league doesn't come in to it.
I think it has to be his age. They assume Verrati could do it anywhere since he's 23, but are sceptical of Ibra since no 34 year old striker should be able to rack up the numbers he does. It's easier to bring up the standard of French football than admit that in real life, a players career doesn't always go down the shitter once he turns 30 like on football manager. He's done it in Serie A and La Liga, I'm not sure what other proof he can provide that doesn't require a time machine.Zlatan gets beaten with the "shit league" stick, despite proving he's capable in various leagues. Why doesn't Veratti get the same treatment, who has only done it in Ligue Un and Serie B? I'd imagine most of this forum would pay any fee to see Veratti here, but the supposed shit league doesn't come in to it.
He's just had his most productive season.For me personal Veratti has got time and the legs to adapt and try at a higher level. Ibra has been at that level for years but is now declining and will not be able to adapt to a more demanding league.
It's such a ridiculous argument. He's old therefore he's declining.He's just had his most productive season.
It's such a ridiculous argument. He's old therefore he's declining.
Only it is... he's literally still improving year upon year. The opposite of declining. To decline you have to show signs of getting worse. He hasn't.I mean yes. That is how I feel. I don't think that is a ridiculous stance either really.
Did he ever say team won because of his brilliance and lost because of his teammates?When the team play well, it is because of his brilliance, he brings out the best of his teammates, he makes the team better. When the team play like crap, it is because his teammates are just suck, there is nothing much he can do. Oh yes, sounds so familiar.
If it is how he see himself in a team, such individualism, no thanks. When ManUtd win, they win as a team including the manager, when ManUtd lose, they lose as a team, including the manager.
Exactly, I am referring to the fans here.Did he ever say team won because of his brilliance and lost because of his teammates?
He doesn't see himself like that, it's his fans.