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GlastonSpur

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He thinks it was Rooney's fault that 'Arry Kane & Pele Alli served stinking pile of steaming poo in the Euros :lol:
While "Overrated Pogba" would soon be taking his team to the Semi Final birth at the tournament. ;)
See post #3827.

PS. It's not Pogba "taking his team" ... it's the whole French team taking themselves.
 
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Like I said, Marchisio has outperformed him in every season they have played together.
Marchisio is more defensive and although his stats in defensive terms are better yet pogba outperforms him in almost everything else. Thanks @TheNewEra for giving us the statistical answer, otherwise it would have been pure judgement based on personal preferences which can be totally biased
 

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I don't understand peoples problem with fees. When it works out, people forget the price because the value goes up. Prices are going up. We were mocked about Martial - but he changed many peoples minds after his first game. Not every purchase can be a bargain or for the 'right' price. Sometimes you have to pay more then you would like. If you are going to do latter, it has to be for a player who can play a vital role and Pogba is one of those players. He's NOT the finished article. We know this. The Italian league is not what it once was. He's still young enough for us to mold him into a top midfielder. Also, the players don't think like most supporters. If we sign Pogba - it improves everyone around him and especially the midfielders because there would be fewer places to fight for but it gives people confidence when intent is shown.
 

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Play him in a 3 with Carrick/Bastian and Morgan/Herrera but Rooney will be there somewhere.
Also I expect Mourinho to develop Pogbas game if he comes
Not many top drawer midfielders out there in terms of quality and versatility unfortunately.

Otherwise if Verratti is willing to move and we can buy him off PSG I'd rather we break the bank on him than Pogba. Verratti and Kante/Matic is basically what he is used to with Mathuidi next to him. If we're willing to spend near the quoted figures for Pogba I'd rather have Kante/Verratti for 100-120m pounds and try Rooney in the number 10 or buy James as well.

Kante -- Verratti
-----James------

Would be a great midfield.

If Verratti is not available then 60-70 on Kroos should be also an option.

My feeling with Pogba is that it will end up like Di Maria. United being his second destination and we blow stupid amount of money on him. The quality is there of course.
Nice array of options there (aside from the rather depressing fact regarding Rooney).

However, if worst case scenario did eschew and Pogba ends going the same way as Di Maria it will be the kind of embarrassing event that would take quite some time for the club and it's fans to live down.
 

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Glaston even if you believed yourself to be correct, why is no one going for them? Some of us have seen Pogba since his reserve days at United so know his potential. United's spending is overrated considering a large chunk went on one player and we've given games to numerous kids. If you followed us, at times we've actually underspent......case in point was when we sold Ronaldo and certainly last summer. I'm mentioning a spurs player because you have this problem where you feel you need to justify spurs on a United forum. Enjoy your team but hide your contempt better lol.
Clubs are going for them - open your eyes. They just don't need to spend £100m in doing so.

You are mentioning Spurs players because you wish to distract from a discussion of Pogba and £100m. I can understand why.
 

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We should all definitely be concerned with the fee being mentioned. I remember when we won the league in 2009 and 2011 but I just couldn't enjoy it because I thought we'd spent £5m too much on Berbatov. I mean winning the title was great and everything, but nothing excites me more than when we pay the exact value of a player. That's where the fun is at.
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Acquire me has already explained how and why he knows those info. And yes, it's quite close to United...
Can someone please guide me to these posts? I'm finding it hard to believe that someone in Norway has close ties to United and then would post genuine ITK info on a forum. Not saying he's lying but I haven't kept up to date with his posts but it just seems far fetched to me.

@Acquire Me calling the Zlatan and Mourinho transfers doesn't take much ITK info tbf.
 

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I see the opposition fans are starting to shit on Pogba when it looks like we're front runners to sign him.
Good sign.
He has a lot of faults but the opposition fans aren't targeting his actual faults and are just making new ones up to call him overrated, I've seen some posts criticise his defensive ability which is peculiar since he's quite good defensively for someone who doesn't play DM.
 

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Stats don't lie though, as I said above find me a time where Marchisio has outperformed Pogba.

Marchisio is a great midfielder but age, chances created, key passes, dribbles, goals everything you want in a midfielder, Pogba is greater statistically per 90.
Wrong. Offensively Pogba is better because he plays more offensively. In possession and defensively Marchisio is better. He is criminally underrated and did a lot of dirty work in keeping that Juve midfield solid. They would miss him more then they would miss pogba.
I agree that Marchisio is class and is better at controlling the game than Pogba. But that statement is questionable. Last season, he may have been better than Pogba, but if we go back a few years ago, Juve would commonly play a midfield 3 of Pirlo, Vidal and Pogba, with Marchisio playing a sub role. And if we go back 3/4 years, we're looking at a 19/20 year old Pogba, so it's no surprise Marchisio may have been outperforming him.
Except in 2014/15, 2012/13 and 2011/13 seasons where he played more then Pogba and Vidal both in the league. He has been a mainstay in that midfield and keeps control of it by covering for Pogba and Pillow when they played. He is a perfect blend of technical ability and stamina/energy. Runs all day and then picks out beautiful passes.
Marchisio is more defensive and although his stats in defensive terms are better yet pogba outperforms him in almost everything else. Thanks @TheNewEra for giving us the statistical answer, otherwise it would have been pure judgement based on personal preferences which can be totally biased
Like I said above, his work is so underrated as he covers so much for that midfield. He is like Vidal but better on the ball. He has also shown how versatile he is by playing Pirlo's role last season at the base of midfield without Juve going to shit. He is really underrated and the best water carrier in the world.
 

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I dont know at this point. We got a shortlist of high end players. I dont know all that is on that list. We probably got other not in the high end bracket as well. I will try to get more info.
Cheers mate, I just think we definitely need a dynamic CM added for the 4-3-3, whether it's Pogba or someone else.
 

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Clubs are going for them - open your eyes. They just don't need to spend £100m in doing so.

You are mentioning Spurs players because you wish to distract from a discussion of Pogba and £100m. I can understand why.
The club have selected who they want to go for. You are not moaning at United spending money they've earnt. You are moaning because Spurs have absolutely no horse in this race. I'm mentioning KANE...not spurs players - because at 22/23 even a great player can play shite or perhaps you've watched all Pogbas gamnes for United/France and Juventus and have come to your conclusion based on observation rather then prejudice?..

You slag United off but United have the forsight to bring in an experienced striker to protect the young strikers coming through. That frees up money to be used elsewhere but only someone without a bias could understand that.

Finally - United didn't ruin the market. The prices are as a result of plastic clubs and their owners. Hence, we're being screwed but can deal with it. We didn't just start throwing money away....
 

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Wrong. Offensively Pogba is better because he plays more offensively. In possession and defensively Marchisio is better. He is criminally underrated and did a lot of dirty work in keeping that Juve midfield solid. They would miss him more then they would miss pogba.

Except in 2014/15, 2012/13 and 2011/13 seasons where he played more then Pogba and Vidal both in the league. He has been a mainstay in that midfield and keeps control of it by covering for Pogba and Pillow when they played. He is a perfect blend of technical ability and stamina/energy. Runs all day and then picks out beautiful passes.

Like I said above, his work is so underrated as he covers so much for that midfield. He is like Vidal but better on the ball. He has also shown how versatile he is by playing Pirlo's role last season at the base of midfield without Juve going to shit. He is really underrated and the best water carrier in the world.
Yes and what you are saying is great but, United aren't after a defensive midfielder, they are after a creator.

The problem last season wasn't defensive or possession, it was the creation of chances.

Do you think United should buy MORE ball playing players and not build a cohesive team? There's Carrick, Herrera, Rooney, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin. See my point?
 

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From our links earlier in the window Andre Gomes would look a viable alternative. He's a Mendes client too so negotiations may not be too difficult.
I hope we steer clear of him, looks like a wet weekend, lacks aggression and confidence IMO.
 

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Not at all. I have been pretty consistent in my belief that he is overrated.

He reminds me of Yaya Toure. Great attacking force on his day and pulls of great moments and pieces of skill. A complete passanger in midfield though and lacks consistency.
Its not just you. In one month he has gone from being Barca or Madrid bound to United being mugs to buy him. If he's such a mug why did people assume he was destined for one of those sides?
He is nothing like Yaya. His close control and passing are levels above the City man while Yaya was at a higher level in terms of goal scoring and goal threat.
What better players 23 or younger are out there? Who can United get to play his role if not Pogba?
I agree the midfield can pass him by but that is true to a lot of those type of players. Zidane needed Cambiasso and Makelele playing behind him at Madrid and Vieria and Makelele when he played for France.
Yaya himself was very involved in the midfield play when he played at Barca btw.
This is also a sellers market. It's not as if we have the players wishes but need to strike a deal with the club. We have no CL and our main opposition are the reigning CL champions. Add in Juve not wanting to sell and the price gets waaay up there.
We simply have to beat their offer to stand a chance. As an alround package he isn't worth 100m euros but in terms of who we can buy this summer and who can plug a lot of our one paced, pedestrian holes in midfield he is well worth the money.
 

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From our links earlier in the window Andre Gomes would look a viable alternative. He's a Mendes client too so negotiations may not be too difficult.
No. He is not even half good. Plus he just signed a new contract at valencia and he is shaded at the Portuguese team by an 18 years old
 

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I hope we steer clear of him, looks like a wet weekend, lacks aggression and confidence IMO.
He's got so much talent but he doesn't apply himself as much as he could, not so much "inconsistent" but more lazy, IMO. If he could sort out his attitude issues he'd be an excellent Pogba alternative.
 

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With regards to Pogba, I could believe that Woodward would be more than happy to spunk £100m on him. Let's face it, he's a wannabe Perez.
Wannabe? I dunno, he's been flinging around money left right and centre. Once we establish ourselves back on top of the mountain we will see.
 

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Yes and what you are saying is great but, United aren't after a defensive midfielder, they are after a creator.

The problem last season wasn't defensive or possession, it was the creation of chances.

Do you think United should buy MORE ball playing players and not build a cohesive team? There's Carrick, Herrera, Rooney, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin. See my point?
I don't rate any of those midfielderseeking long term. Rooney is average at best, BFS and Carrick are old and injured a lot and on the decline and Herrerra is the Spanish Oscar.

Perfectly speaking, I think Pogba would work well in a midfield at United. I just think he is wildly overrated on this forum and people are blinded by his highlights moments rather then his overall contribution.

Also, I think you could build a better side with that money then spunking it on Pogba.
 

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Nothing like opposition fans shitting it and trying to play down a big transfer with moronic arguments.
 

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I don't rate any of those midfielderseeking long term. Rooney is average at best, BFS and Carrick are old and injured a lot and on the decline and Herrerra is the Spanish Oscar.

Perfectly speaking, I think Pogba would work well in a midfield at United. I just think he is wildly overrated on this forum and people are blinded by his highlights moments rather then his overall contribution.

Also, I think you could build a better side with that money then spunking it on Pogba.
Probably yes, but that's why a club needs to have a plan, money can be spent on Pogba this season, then next season a midfielder who can really control the midfield.

You may find that Schneiderlin and Pogba have a partnership that works for France so after a year there may not need to be another midfielder brought in.

Personally for now there's only a few good options, if Pogba is available then get him, he's young and has a high ceiling.
 

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He has a lot of faults but the opposition fans aren't targeting his actual faults and are just making new ones up to call him overrated, I've seen some posts criticise his defensive ability which is peculiar since he's quite good defensively for someone who doesn't play DM.
Yeah he played deeper v Ireland and had the most tackles won etc than any player in the French side ( if I remember correctly)
Marchisio plays deeper so a lot of his passes are safe passes without much pressure. Attacking players always seem to have lower stats simply because they're the players playing the risky balls.
 

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He's got so much talent but he doesn't apply himself as much as he could, not so much "inconsistent" but more lazy, IMO. If he could sort out his attitude issues he'd be an excellent Pogba alternative.
Too big of a risk IMO, it's much harder fixing a mentally weak player than it is a positionally or tactically weak one, he never looks like he wants to take on any responsibility to me.
 

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I don't rate any of those midfielderseeking long term. Rooney is average at best, BFS and Carrick are old and injured a lot and on the decline and Herrerra is the Spanish Oscar.

Perfectly speaking, I think Pogba would work well in a midfield at United. I just think he is wildly overrated on this forum and people are blinded by his highlights moments rather then his overall contribution.

Also, I think you could build a better side with that money then spunking it on Pogba.
He cannot be overrated on this forum. No one is saying he's the finished article. United would be buying potential and making a statement. Ed has made a point in the past that he doesn't want the best talent to sod off to Spain and I agree. The premiership has to fight to keep it's best players. Pogba would also attract other players too and show people, that after 3 years of poor performances, we're ready to finish above Leicester City again :)

The premiership is great because of the quality in so many squads. It's important we not only bring these players in but keep them here.
 

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Its not just you. In one month he has gone from being Barca or Madrid bound to United being mugs to buy him. If he's such a mug why did people assume he was destined for one of those sides?
He is nothing like Yaya. His close control and passing are levels above the City man while Yaya was at a higher level in terms of goal scoring and goal threat.
What better players 23 or younger are out there? Who can United get to play his role if not Pogba?
I agree the midfield can pass him by but that is true to a lot of those type of players. Zidane needed Cambiasso and Makelele playing behind him at Madrid and Vieria and Makelele when he played for France.
Yaya himself was very involved in the midfield play when he played at Barca btw.
This is also a sellers market. It's not as if we have the players wishes but need to strike a deal with the club. We have no CL and our main opposition are the reigning CL champions. Add in Juve not wanting to sell and the price gets waaay up there.
We simply have to beat their offer to stand a chance. As an alround package he isn't worth 100m euros but in terms of who we can buy this summer and who can plug a lot of our one paced, pedestrian holes in midfield he is well worth the money.
I wanted madrid to spend money on him because it would feck with a well balanced midfield that they finally have sorted. Same with Barca.

Personally, I think if you buy pogba, you need another midfielder to stop you being overrun. You also need somebody to control the game as well because pogba won't do that. Kroos and/or Kante would make sense.

Schneiderlain/Kante/Pogba
Kante/Kroos/Pogba
Schneiderlain/Kroos/Pogba

These are very well balanced midfield.
 

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Nothing like opposition fans shitting it and trying to play down a big transfer with moronic arguments.
Who are you reffering to?
If its Gol123, I think a lot of United fans think the same, Pogba is overrated by some on here and there are far better ways for United to invest 100mill than on just Pogba.
 

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The club have selected who they want to go for. You are not moaning at United spending money they've earnt. You are moaning because Spurs have absolutely no horse in this race. I'm mentioning KANE...not spurs players - because at 22/23 even a great player can play shite or perhaps you've watched all Pogbas gamnes for United/France and Juventus and have come to your conclusion based on observation rather then prejudice?..
I'm not moaning ... actually I'd be delighted if United spunked £100m on Pogba, because it's always good to see rival clubs wildly over-paying for over-rated players.

No I haven't seen all of Pogba's games since the year dot. Shall we exclude from the discussion all those who also haven't?
 

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I'm not moaning ... actually I'd be delighted if United spunked £100m on Pogba, because it's always good to see rival clubs wildly over-paying for over-rated players.

No I haven't seen all of Pogba's games since the year dot. Shall we exclude from the discussion all those who also haven't?
Why is he over-rated? He is still young and one of the best in the world.
 

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Who are you reffering to?
If its Gol123, I think a lot of United fans think the same, Pogba is overrated by some on here and there are far better ways for United to spend 100mill than on just Pogba.
Nah not Gol123.

I don't know about overrated, I myself will prefer couple of other midfielders over Pogba but there aren't that many better than Pogba as well. The desperation to write him off before it has happened and mention '100m' is funny though.
 

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Probably yes, but that's why a club needs to have a plan, money can be spent on Pogba this season, then next season a midfielder who can really control the midfield.

You may find that Schneiderlin and Pogba have a partnership that works for France so after a year there may not need to be another midfielder brought in.

Personally for now there's only a few good options, if Pogba is available then get him, he's young and has a high ceiling.
I dunno. I think the money is a lot and I wouldn't want Chelsea to spend it because we have other areas to fix. United have the money though and can risk spending it I guess.
He cannot be overrated on this forum. No one is saying he's the finished article. United would be buying potential and making a statement. Ed has made a point in the past that he doesn't want the best talent to sod off to Spain and I agree. The premiership has to fight to keep it's best players. Pogba would also attract other players too and show people, that after 3 years of poor performances, we're ready to finish above Leicester City again :)

The premiership is great because of the quality in so many squads. It's important we not only bring these players in but keep them here.
0eople are saying he is the best midfielder in the world. He isn't. They also claim he is the most complete. A load of crap again. A lot of people overrate him.
 

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I don't rate any of those midfielderseeking long term. Rooney is average at best, BFS and Carrick are old and injured a lot and on the decline and Herrerra is the Spanish Oscar.

Perfectly speaking, I think Pogba would work well in a midfield at United. I just think he is wildly overrated on this forum and people are blinded by his highlights moments rather then his overall contribution.

Also, I think you could build a better side with that money then spunking it on Pogba.
There are probably only 2 roster spots still available for addition IF the Reds bring in Pogba. One is a Center Back.

No matter how much they spend on Pogba, it's not going to keep them from spending on the center back they want.

Now...NEXT season they may regret it, but apparently this season isn't about not spending.
 

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Clubs are going for them - open your eyes. They just don't need to spend £100m in doing so.

You are mentioning Spurs players because you wish to distract from a discussion of Pogba and £100m. I can understand why.
Pogba is not worth £100m, but why do you care if he is, or isn't? Player is class and will only get better. We can afford it. We generate our own money. We need player like him, so let's pay the going rate. Transfer fees are getting inflated every year, and are always subjective. You just wish Spurs could be ballers like us, don't you?
 

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I'm not moaning ... actually I'd be delighted if United spunked £100m on Pogba, because it's always good to see rival clubs wildly over-paying for over-rated players.

No I haven't seen all of Pogba's games since the year dot. Shall we exclude from the discussion all those who also haven't?
He's not overrated just like Kane isn't shite by being out performed by an 18 year old with little experience in comparison ;) (at the Euros). As for the second point, you noticed I said Kane was a great player? ...I'm guessing I and many others have seen Pogba far more then you so know his potential? So when we say he's potentially a great player, that's what we mean :) So you can stop hiding behind he's over rated - when really, you just hate United and are wumming.
 

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I dunno. I think the money is a lot and I wouldn't want Chelsea to spend it because we have other areas to fix. United have the money though and can risk spending it I guess.

0eople are saying he is the best midfielder in the world. He isn't. They also claim he is the most complete. A load of crap again. A lot of people overrate him.
He's not the best midfielder in the world. He could be in a few seasons at United. Every purchase is based on potential. Whether they are experiences and can replicate their form or someone younger - who might step it up. We might feel he's worth the gamble and if people were more honest....they would have no problem their club doing the same thing.

United have a great history of buying players for cheap and them ending up being great players! The more successful you become, the more difficult it is because clubs get jealous or ask for more. United have missed out on great players in the past....Batistuta a prime example..because we were stingy. We've seen the kid first hand (i mean the coaches) - so they will know the kid better then most and that is why they can confidently make a decision about him.
 

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Why is he over-rated? He is still young and one of the best in the world.
He is overrated, a lot of people think that he is the perfect midfielder, some even said that he was arguably the best all round midfielder in the world, which he isn't. Pogba is a good player with great potential.