You accused RI of making stuff up. I'm saying the quote in that tweet is genuine.
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I didn't accuse them, they flat out made a WR booze ban up last season and tried to beat it up for attention (among a few other weird things) but were laughed away last season. They have zero credibility really.
Not debating that. Just talking about the content of that tweet. They did not make that up.
Agreed. He finally gets dropped which will supposedly make everything better and now he's injured and not even playing and still gets venomous bilge trotted out on here.
I honestly thought I was getting pretty filthy at the start of last season at him but I eventually came on here and read some of the complete drivel being trollied out on a regular basis and was gobsmacked. The same users over and over posting the same circular rubbish and everyone else falling over themselves to pat each other on the back for it. It's incredibly weird in my opinion.
He's being used sparingly, contributing to good things when he gets the playing time and I think that is all people can ask for. It couldn't be a better situation for some of the people who are so desperate to moan about him relentlessly. Yet still the same gabbing on and on trying desperately to conjure up something to whinge about. He'll more than likely not be signing a new deal at a year to go in his contract (though it wouldn't surprise me if some of the ambassadorial clauses in his contract keeps him at the club somehow) and will probably go on a free to Everton but until that happens I don't know why people go out of their way to recycle the trash bags for attention on here.
Didn't Red Issue look like complete twonks after trying to claim booze ban last year? What a bunch of munters who run that ridiculous site.
Well, you've no evidence to suggest he didn't get a booze ban...Where as, there is plenty of evidence to suggest he probably did, as he got Christmas booze bans before.
Also, while we're at it, this quote isn't from Red Issue. It's from The Times
The main thing is that he isnt in the side, on merit or on reputation.
Aside from the £ issue thats all we should care about, as he's long since been a dead weight, dragging this club down with his rubbish performances and a "i dont have anything to prove" mentality.
Aside from the £ issue thats all we should care about, as he's long since been a dead weight, dragging this club down with his rubbish performances and a "i dont have anything to prove" mentality.
If/when the club lets him go, you just wonder who the club will bring in with the wages available...
I mean, if we stuck another 100k on his weekly wages, which we could easily do, you're looking at being able to offer £350,000 a week - think about the type of player that could bring in.
That said, I find myself hoping that he gets the record and then moves on peacefully.
He's brought some great memories to us at United, and he's contributed massively to one of the club's true 'golden eras'.
I mean, if we stuck another 100k on his weekly wages, which we could easily do, you're looking at being able to offer £350,000 a week - think about the type of player that could bring in.
That said, I find myself hoping that he gets the record and then moves on peacefully.
He's brought some great memories to us at United, and he's contributed massively to one of the club's true 'golden eras'.
So what did you expect from the Wayne Rooney camp? To come out and own up to his misdemeanours? As far credibility goes, both sides can be accused of having their own agendas, so it's it matter of which one you want to believe.
Anyone actually know what's currently keeping him out? Injury wise?
His wages aren't stopping us from signing anybody. This isn't a video game.
Rooney is the best sub we could get. He doesn't complain and is still the consummate team player. He'd already have the record if he hadn't given away two penalties in order to boost the confidence of this teammates.
Been out handing presents to kids all over the world. Needs a break
Seriously though he always picks up injuries every season that causes him to miss blocks of 3-4 games minimum.
Was a thigh injury but back in training
It'd be useful if he was round for these 2 cup games.
Physio room says it's a thigh injury. Supposedly picked it up in training on Christmas Day.
"This isn't a video game" = we have absolutely no wage structure limits?
Odd logic there, mate.
I think the notion of keeping Rooney as a sub on 250,000k a week wouldn't sit too well with the club's money men, it's bad business.
While we could probably afford to sign a 300,000 a week attacker and keep Rooney, I would imagine it's not too likely.
I think Rooney's departure will equal the signing of a player who'll effectively take over his wages, could be wrong, time will tell.
We already have one of the largest wage bills in the world at £232m. That's up from £215m the year before. Wage limits haven't stopped us from buying anyone and nor will they. Our wage to turnover ratio is extremely healthy.
If Messi became available, the money would be there.
You're creating reasons to beat Rooney that don't exist.
Last fiscal year our wages/turnover ratio was 45%, some 6% short of the <51% golden figure clubs aim for.
To put that into perspective, that's £30.9m/year available. If we assume Pogba and Zlatan are on the reported £220k each that still leaves us £8m a year to play with on last years accounts, this year's are expected to be higher again and should we get UCL, the future revenues are going through the roof.
It's not an ideal situation but we're not in a position where we have to shift Rooney before we can bring another high earner in.
There's plenty other dead wood that will be shifted first, Schneiderlin, Depay, Young, Darmian, Schweinsteiger is minimum £25m a year we can clear.
Really does feel like he'll be off in the summer. It's quite a depressing thought for me as he's my favorite United player. Last time a United player leaving was upsetting was when Ruud left and that was a bit more sudden in comparison. I just hope he plays games like this weekend and the Europa and gets his 2 goals 
The amount we couid save in players we don't really need/want to sell is mad, Rooney, Schweinstegier, Schniederlin, Depay, Young, Fellaini, and Darmian, all players we could live without, would save upward of £1 million per week, and generate £60-70 million in transfer fees, if shift them, get the CL money, and safeguard the Adidas money, we'd be laughing.
Money really isn't an issue for us. I really have not understood why fans are always so obsessed with getting "deadwood" off the wage bills. It's not like their presence is restricting us in the transfer market or in terms of offering anyone wages or even with FFP.
This is a bit of a myth imo, we can't just keep players who we don't need and who are stupid wages just because we have a high turnover, sadly United is run as a business, and as such it should be run as efficiently as possible, which means getting 'deadwood' off the wage list is important, also it serves no purpose having players we don't need.
Through poor buying we have a large squad, and we would be stupid not to reap the benefits of trimming it down.
Sorry but this is such a pitiful comment.
Why else do you think he handed the ball over for those two penalties?
Imagine it was any other footballer and not somebody you have an irrational hatred for.
Mourinho told BT Sport: "The first penalty taker was Paul - we made the decision."
"He didn't want to repeat because it's a second penalty a couple of minutes later. Probably because Martial won it and he's a good penalty taker."
"It's not a problem for me. I always give indication of the one that has the responsibility [Pogba] but leave freedom for the players on the pitch [to make the decision]."
Rooney wasn't even in the conversation.
Doesn't matter
i happen to agree with you on this one, although I think it may also be because he doesn't want to break it from 12 yards.
Not sure why his performance thread is going nuts and about his wages again, surely it's time to change the disc. Before he got injured he was doing alright, I agree it should be his last year (as long as we sign a replacement) but he's still a much better option than lingard and gives us experience in the dressing room
Ive been is fan and supporter for the past few seasons. But even I can see how he has virtually disappeared without any notice. In fact, trying to shoehorn into the team now seems a regressive step which would only weaken the team.
I hope he can quickly score a few goals and get his record and then gracefully leave the club in the summer. He's welcome to stay, as his contract allows him too, but it will be as a has been struggling to get on the subs bench.
Unless he can somehow refashion himself a la Giggs, he represents the past, an era that has come to an end. He looks out of place in a new era of led by Pogba and Hazard with the likes of Rashford, Martial, Alli and Dier adding vitality. its a damp squib ending to his career.
I hope he can quickly score a few goals and get his record and then gracefully leave the club in the summer. He's welcome to stay, as his contract allows him too, but it will be as a has been struggling to get on the subs bench.
Unless he can somehow refashion himself a la Giggs, he represents the past, an era that has come to an end. He looks out of place in a new era of led by Pogba and Hazard with the likes of Rashford, Martial, Alli and Dier adding vitality. its a damp squib ending to his career.
First of all I don't have any hatred for anyone let alone an irrational hatred which seems to be the go to call a poster that is not a fan boy of Wayne Rooney. So please pipe down there.
That incident was cleared up that Pogba was the designated penalty taker and he took responsibility and took charge of the spot kick even when it looked like Wayne Rooney hesitated.
The second penalty, Martial won it, got up and got hold of the ball and took the pen. That was him taking charge there.
Your post made it look like Wayne Rooney was feeling sorry for Pogba and Martial when it was clear who was struggling for form and possibly confidence. Rooney was poor in that game and there was every chance that he did not have the bottle to take one penalty let alone two.
I called it, the post pitiful because it looks like another post that will justify Rooney at the expense of yet another player. Credit should go to the two young players that stood up when our supposed leader didn't look up to it. Why else was his mate Michael Owen having a go at him?
To say that the captain passed up the opportunity to put the team ahead in a time when we were desperate for points early in the season, and possibly break a record, so that his team mates can feel better is absurd really. It's not like we were 5 goals up.
I'm not looking forward to see him back. People say that he is not starting these days, but he always comes on from the bench. Mourinho's subs were spot on these last few games and that won us games, if Rooney was available he would have came on instead of Mata or Rashford in the last 2 games for sure.
He's going to limp over the line and break Sir Bobby's record playing with second stringers against weak sides in the Cups isn't he.
So am I. Also cant wait for him to brake the record he deserves it.
I love this weird thought process that no matter how much we waste on players or their wages it has no negative effect on the club. Where do they think the £40m per annum would go if not into the pockets of Rooney, Fellaini, Depay, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger etc; into an annual "burn the money" celebration?
A good portion would go to positively improving the club; whether it would be paying down the debt, purchasing more land around the stadium, investing more in infrastructure; expanding the stadium; reducing/freezing ticket prices; or even taking a few £10m punts on unknown players who have a 1% chance of being the next superstar.
Almoat whatever we decided to do with Rooney's £15m salary it would have a greater positive effect on the club than filling the pockets of someone who is several years past it.
A good portion would go to positively improving the club; whether it would be paying down the debt, purchasing more land around the stadium, investing more in infrastructure; expanding the stadium; reducing/freezing ticket prices; or even taking a few £10m punts on unknown players who have a 1% chance of being the next superstar.
Almoat whatever we decided to do with Rooney's £15m salary it would have a greater positive effect on the club than filling the pockets of someone who is several years past it.
So, Rooney has been phased out and we are now on our best winning/unbeaten run in a very long time.
We look like a team who are on the rise and are the form team of the moment.
And Rooney has not been part of this.
I realise that there are some very loyal fans who respect what Rooney did several years ago, but Sport moves on.
You need to support the players who are doing a fantastic job for us right now, rather than pine over a player who hasn't been any good for many years.
I think Rooney is a MUFC legend...no doubt about this, but I support MUFC first and foremost. And if that means a bad performing player (like Memphis, Rooney, Morgan, etc) is removed from the team, then so be it.
I will however, absolutely support the players/manager who are grafting and making our team great again.
We look like a team who are on the rise and are the form team of the moment.
And Rooney has not been part of this.
I realise that there are some very loyal fans who respect what Rooney did several years ago, but Sport moves on.
You need to support the players who are doing a fantastic job for us right now, rather than pine over a player who hasn't been any good for many years.
I think Rooney is a MUFC legend...no doubt about this, but I support MUFC first and foremost. And if that means a bad performing player (like Memphis, Rooney, Morgan, etc) is removed from the team, then so be it.
I will however, absolutely support the players/manager who are grafting and making our team great again.
Everton can get a package deal from us. Boy wonder returns, Schneiderlin and Depay alongside him. That's like £450k off the weekly book as well. That's over £23,000,000 per year on three players who do't play :O
Checking the Caf these days and most times finding there's not a Rooney thread on the first page is testament to how immaculately Jose's handled the Rooney problem. We've moved on.
Personally, I want him to break the record. How gutting would it be for him if he doesn't break it? In any case this has to be his last season with us.
I look at it differently. Does he really deserve the record more than Sir Bobby?
It could only be sentiment that gets him in the starting 11 for the up coming cup games. It would be more useful to start Rashford up top if Ibrahimovich is going to be rested. I guess he could possibly take the position behind Rashford although we still want to win these games so I'd still say bench is best.
I resent the suggestion he should be 'allowed' to break the record. Nobody has fecking stopped him! The record should have been broken a long time ago. His penalty record can't be much better than 50% for a start. I have flashbacks of poor touches and finishes in scoring positions in recent times. Martial playing him through against Fenerbache for instance, Kily for his touch to be so heavy the defender cleared.
He should have the record, and we have some poor opposition coming up, and if he plays and doesn't get it, it can't be said he hasn't been allowed to.
He should have the record, and we have some poor opposition coming up, and if he plays and doesn't get it, it can't be said he hasn't been allowed to.
If he scores another two goals then yes he does. Why wouldn't he deserve it?
He is not the best sub we could get, because he is not that good. You want good players as subs too.
He didn't gave those pens in the first place. Mourinho confirmed that Pogba was the penalty shooter anyway (when Ibra is not in the pitch) so Pogba was just being polite.
Ah, forgot that you think that he's the third best player in the world.
Do you know who the quotes were from originally mate?
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