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That was so bad But I must say I quite enjoy the way clubs make it official now.
That's so bad jesus. Makes the Salah announcement looks like it deserves an Oscar nod in comparison
Yes, they need 5 reliable CBs for the season and Rudiger is in the mould, ceiling is high once he learns more tricks and discipline.Rudiger is atheltic and powerful, I think as the RCB in the back 3 he'll be a decent signing for them.
He compliments the CB's they got and as you say they'll need a deep pool due to the system.Yes, they need 5 reliable CBs for the season and Rudiger is in the mould, ceiling is high once he learns more tricks and discipline.
Haven't they sold him?Don't really see the point. Ake is just as talented.
I agree! Looking forward to when clubs get the hang of this announcement thing. I expect United to be all over this with your want to market the hell out of things.That was so bad But I must say I quite enjoy the way clubs make it official now.
I think the fact that Chelsea matched United's bid for Lukaku would indicate he was their first choice. Carry on pretending otherwise though.I doubt anyone outside of Chelsea knows who Conte's first choice striker actually is
First it was Morata, then it was Belotti, then it was Lukaku and now it's Belotti again
Clearly Conte wanted more maturity, Ake is good but too young for the trade at the highest levels maybe?Don't really see the point. Ake is just as talented.
They have, which is why this is baffling. He's not better than Azpilicueta and Ake could have competed with Cahill. In general I thought there was no need to sign a CB for them, with Christensen and Ake already at the club.He compliments the CB's they got and as you say they'll need a deep pool due to the system.
Haven't they sold him?
Ake is a 5'10" defensive midfielder who can play centre back when required. This new chap is 6'3" and a defender.Don't really see the point. Ake is just as talented.
Rudiger is hardly that much further ahead in his development. If he really wanted more experience, Koulibaly or Manolas would have made more sense.Clearly Conte wanted more maturity, Ake is good but too young for the trade at the highest levels maybe?
It was strange that they brought Ake back midway through his loan as Conte didn't seem to rate him, clearly.They have, which is why this is baffling. He's not better than Azpilicueta and Ake could have competed with Cahill. In general I thought there was no need to sign a CB for them, with Christensen and Ake already at the club.
He's been good for Gladbach, do you think he has a chance at being a starter for Chelsea?Ake is a 5'10" defensive midfielder who can play centre back when required. This new chap is 6'3" and a defender.
We've got Christensen back who is just as talented as Ake (maybe more) as well.
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He was brought back as cover but we didn't end up having many injuries.It was strange that they brought Ake back midway through his loan as Conte didn't seem to rate him, clearly.
He's been good for Gladbach, do you think he has a chance at being a starter for Chelsea?
When was the last time he played in midfield? And how often has he played there the last couple of years?Ake is a 5'10" defensive midfielder who can play centre back when required. This new chap is 6'3" and a defender.
We've got Christensen back who is just as talented as Ake (maybe more) as well.
He played there for most of his youth career. When he was on loan at Bournemouth he played centre back, full back and midfield. The player considers himself a midfielder.When was the last time he played in midfield? And how often has he played there the last couple of years?
I wonder if Conte sees Christensen as cover/competition for Luiz as I see him more as the sweeper than in either of the side CBV roles. That would be a good idea for Zouma as the injury seemed worse than originally thought.He was brought back as cover but we didn't end up having many injuries.
As for Christensen, apparently he'll be in the mix, I can see Zouma going out on loan to have a full season starting somewhere after a bad injury.
Christensen will be competing with David Luiz for the spot in the centre. His passing is excellent.I don't understand Chelsea. They have a future world class IV with Christensen, a very good with Zouma and sold Ake. Now they are buying an average defender like Rüdiger for that money?
Christensen could play easily in their first eleven and they are blocking his spot with Rüdiger.
Martial thinks he's a striker, nonetheless managers keep playing him wide. Ake has hardly played in midfield the last couple of years, mostly as LB and CB. Not sure what your argument is here, Azpilicueta isn't as tall as Ake and it wasn't a problem. It's simply a stupid decision by your club, since Rudiger isn't that much of an improvement on the players you already have or had.He played there for most of his youth career. When he was on loan at Bournemouth he played centre back, full back and midfield. The player considers himself a midfielder.
That's definitely going to be his role.I wonder if Conte sees Christensen as cover/competition for Luiz as I see him more as the sweeper than in either of the side CBV roles. That would be a good idea for Zouma as the injury seemed worse than originally thought.
I think he can play all three positions, as he is a quite complete CB. But with Ake gone, I agree he's the most natural choice as back up for Luiz. No idea if Conte himself has said anything about that yet.I wonder if Conte sees Christensen as cover/competition for Luiz as I see him more as the sweeper than in either of the side CBV roles. That would be a good idea for Zouma as the injury seemed worse than originally thought.
This exchange between Chelsea and City fans in the replies made me laugh:
It was a problem a few times last season. Long balls from the right into Azpilicueta's area became more and more commonplace as the season unfolded. Teams targeted it as a weakness.Martial thinks he's a striker, nonetheless managers keep playing him wide. Ake has hardly played in midfield the last couple of years, mostly as LB and CB. Not sure what your argument is here, Azpilicueta isn't as tall as Ake and it wasn't a problem. It's simply a stupid decision by your club, since Rudiger isn't that much of an improvement on the players you already have or had.
Okay, didn't see those. Still think he's your best defender though.It was a problem a few times last season. Long balls from the right into Azpilicueta's area became more and more commonplace as the season unfolded. Teams targeted it as a weakness.
To be fair, he's clearly seen as a LB or CB these days.He played there for most of his youth career. When he was on loan at Bournemouth he played centre back, full back and midfield. The player considers himself a midfielder.
Well I think you need to expand upon that statement somewhat. He has all the skills a goalscorer requires and just because he hasn't played in numerous other systems doesn't mean he can't. Look at Lukaku for example, he clearly plays best on the break but one also assumes he has the skills to function when playing in a passing game where continued pressure is applied too. That's a bit of an unknown though so haven't United taken a £75m gamble ? Is Morata any different ? Or Lacazette who has spent all of his time at OL ? Not many strikers have played at multiple clubs thriving under multiple systems.I think most big teams are afraid that Aubameyang is too system dependant to perform. Despite his good goalscoring numbers, he seems far more limited in his game than most top strikers.
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Yeah I don't get it either. Christensen has just has 'another' impressive season and should clearly be ahead of Rudiger. Strange.I don't understand Chelsea. They have a future world class IV with Christensen, a very good with Zouma and sold Ake. Now they are buying an average defender like Rüdiger for that money?
Christensen could play easily in their first eleven and they are blocking his spot with Rüdiger.
Wtf is this shit
Jesus. There are no words for that.
Very different players though. Ake is far more of a ball player than pure defender. Conte wants a tall log-of-wood defender defender by the looks of it. We have Luiz to be the ball playing CB anyways.Don't really see the point. Ake is just as talented.
Rudiger will compete for RBC. While Christensen will compete for LCB spot. Its unlikely Christensen's progress is going to be hindered at the club. The club has put way too much into it to feck it up.I don't understand Chelsea. They have a future world class IV with Christensen, a very good with Zouma and sold Ake. Now they are buying an average defender like Rüdiger for that money?
Christensen could play easily in their first eleven and they are blocking his spot with Rüdiger.
I don't think there's any doubt about that. As long as there's a buy back, I'm warming up to Ake being sold. We have Luiz, Cahill, Azpilicueta, Zouma, Christensen, and Rudiger. Cahill shouldn't be starting every game but we need him for HG, and there's been rumblings about a Zouma loan all summer. I don't see where the confusion is coming from about the signing.Okay, didn't see those. Still think he's your best defender though.
I wasn't really talking about different systems but more like his skill set is far too limited, too limited not to play in a different systemWell I think you need to expand upon that statement somewhat. He has all the skills a goalscorer requires and just because he hasn't played in numerous other systems doesn't mean he can't. Look at Lukaku for example, he clearly plays best on the break but one also assumes he has the skills to function when playing in a passing game where continued pressure is applied too. That's a bit of an unknown though so haven't United taken a £75m gamble ? Is Morata any different ? Or Lacazette who has spent all of his time at OL ? Not many strikers have played at multiple clubs thriving under multiple systems.