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Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal

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This deal kind of smashes my faith that we are ever going to be able to buy a worldclass attacker.
Well to be honest we don't know what the repercussions will be yet. In reality the fee should have priced everyone out, but PSG are mad enough to do this. They seem to be taking the 'Buy first, think later' approach. Fair play to them, but we should really avoid going down that path.
 

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I didn't say younger meant better. I meant he should naturally overtake them. At least that was my expectation. For example, he's never going to be as good as Messi but at 27 I'd expect him to be better than an over the hill (but still wonderful) Messi. The heir to the throne, if you will. So in that sense, for him to accept playing in a league so much worse is such an absurd choice and says a lot about him IMO.
He is 25.
 

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bullshit.

Barca lost because PSG is pumping stupid money, which they didn't 'earn' by beeing a football club, into Neymar. This is not how this business should work. Most of you approve it, because you just dislike Barca. If it would be United instead of Barca, you would cry a massive river.
Business has worked the same way for a few years. Money just hasn't been used for one player but instead being spread over few quality ones during the window. Also, never one of the big boys was on the other side.

So, yeah, this cries from Barcelona are little funny. They never had any complaints before and now are trying to make an anti-PSG coalition. All that, while breaking multiple rules when they were buying Neymar in the first place.
 

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I agree, although Griezmann is still on I think for next year.
Hopefully we have something like pre agreement with Griezman to join us next year. With the money Barcelona have now, hope they go for Coutinho and Dybala and not Griezman!
 

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Even if that did happen we dont go ahead putting release clauses in our players contracts so have the option to play hardball.

Barca agreed to put in a release clause and are now crying because someone is willing to meet it. Had Barca not done that or put something higher than they did he might be staying.
Barca had no choice Buy Out clauses are mandatory in Spain. They had to put one in but they could have made it much larger if they wanted to.
 

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This deal kind of smashes my faith that we are ever going to be able to buy a worldclass attacker.
It's true that PSG have done what United/PL fans have been dreaming about for years i.e being able to lure one of the worlds best from one of the Spanish super clubs. However, the only reason they can do this is because they're state funded and have near endless pots of cash. And we dont really have the pull to get such players from them without that. I'm fine with that to be honest. Buy some top class talent and not ready made world beaters and it's fine, as long as you have a great manager. Fergie never bought Neymar level of players either. But he won more managers who managed Neymar will.
 

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Barca had no choice Buy Out clauses are mandatory in Spain. They had to put one in but they could have made it much larger if they wanted to.

They could, but Neymar's agent/dad would have probably rejected it. Both parties have to agree on a contract.
 

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Everyone is playing the 'let's laugh at Barcelona' thing until an entire oil producing country starts throwing £200m at us for Paul Pogba.

PSG should feck off, fecking cheats. This sort of stuff will ruin the game, and have players earning a million a week in no time.
I hate to defend morally dodgy entities like Qatar but...how exactly will it "ruin the game"?
 

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I hate to defend morally dodgy entities like Qatar but...how exactly will it "ruin the game"?
Because not every club has a state backing them with limitless funds? How anyone can even think it's right or fair is beyond me it should never have been allowed in the first place. Chelsea was the start, where does it end? Someone buying Scunthorpe and winning them a CL? It's nonsense.
 
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Ronaldo is 31 and Messi is 30. Neymar is 25 so the future is clearly on his side. Beside, if he can win CL with PSG and help Brazil in WC I can't find a reason why he can't be a Ballon D'Or contender.
Despite being 31 and 30 they are fitter and better than a younger Neymar in every aspect and have a bigger impact than him for both their teams and they are not fading away for few years because of their superior fitness.
 

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Despite being 31 and 30 they are fitter and better than a younger Neymar in every aspect and have a bigger impact than him for both their teams and they are not fading away for few years because of their superior fitness.
They'll decline sooner or later, after 4-5 years when Neymar will still be at 29 years by then and in his prime. Neymar has the future in his hands no doubt. He still didn't even reach his prime I believe, only 25 years old.
 

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Didn't his buyout remain 87 million euros?

The main affect of this transfer is that buyout clauses in Spain will probably treble over the next couple years.
No apparently it went up to 200m this summer.

Can't see Neymar winning the Ballon D'Or at PSG, it will be Messi/ROnaldo until the next big name at those two clubs.
 

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Because not every club has a state backing them with limitless funds? How anyone can even think it's right or fair is beyond me it should never have been allowed in the first place. Chelsea was the start, where does it end? Someone buying Scunthorpe and winning them a CL? It's nonsense.
It would be more interesting than the usual superclubs sweeping up the best players and the trophies.
 

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No apparently it went up to 200m this summer.

Can't see Neymar winning the Ballon D'Or at PSG, it will be Messi/ROnaldo until the next big name at those two clubs.
Although it goes back to 100m in January at the moment, whether he will sign a new deal to increase that is the question
 

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People might laugh at La Liga's reaction to this, but this is a legitimate blow to the way they are trying to sell themselves.

They've been chasing the Premier League for the past ten years and their strategy was nicely aligned with the two big clubs having the hottest attacking talent in the world to compensate for a dearth of competition and quality in the rest of the league.

But now, they've just been gazumped and lost possibly the biggest rising superstar of the game by a team from a small league. Forget the money, it's the affront that's killing them. Unlike the Premier League, their whole marketing is based on the players and they've made it so that the fans follow the players more than the teams and they're feeling it now that it has gone tits up.
 

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Because not every club has a state backing them with limitless funds? How anyone can even think it's right or fair is beyond me it should never have been allowed in the first place. Chelsea was the start, where does it end? Someone buying Scunthorpe and winning them a CL? It's nonsense.
It started with Blackburn and them buying the PL. It got bigger when Billionaires got involved but it had already been around.

Can we compete with that? Probably not but I don't think we should regulate how a person/country spend their money. If the Glazers had the money to sponsor this deal I wouldn't be saying what no you can't do that it's not fair on everyone else.
 

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Yes that rubbish Spanish league whose teams have dominated European competitions for the last five years and have a dominant record over English opposition.
At the top end of the table, their teams are very good, which is exactly what you would expect if you looked at income distribution. That's not to say that the rest of the league isn't absolute garbage, which is also something to be expected looking at income.
 

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Because not every club has a state backing them with limitless funds? How anyone can even think it's right or fair is beyond me it should never have been allowed in the first place. Chelsea was the start, where does it end? Someone buying Scunthorpe and winning them a CL? It's nonsense.
It's not fair or right but, as you allude to, it's just part of a trend that's been going on in football since the start of professionalism.

How would Scunthorpe winning the CL mean the game is "ruined" though?
 

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Because not every club has a state backing them with limitless funds? How anyone can even think it's right or fair is beyond me it should never have been allowed in the first place. Chelsea was the start, where does it end? Someone buying Scunthorpe and winning them a CL? It's nonsense.
It's funny just how conservative this place becomes on this topic, when it usually leans the other way on almost every other.
 

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Neymar's next destination is London, according to Cadena COPE, to "relax".
 

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Everyone is playing the 'let's laugh at Barcelona' thing until an entire oil producing country starts throwing £200m at us for Paul Pogba.

PSG should feck off, fecking cheats. This sort of stuff will ruin the game, and have players earning a million a week in no time.
We have no release clauses. Psg can try.
 

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They'll decline sooner or later, after 4-5 years when Neymar will still be at 29 years by then and in his prime. Neymar has the future in his hands no doubt. He still didn't even reach his prime I believe, only 25 years old.
I don't see Neymar having the careers Messi or Ronaldo have/had. I see him retiring in 5-6 years, for some reason.
 

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I hate to defend morally dodgy entities like Qatar but...how exactly will it "ruin the game"?
Players earning unrealistic amounts will widen the disparity in football. Amounts of money that cannot be generated organically within football means that those who don't happen to have a country backing them cannot compete fairly.

It ruins the game in the same way that an athlete who wins a race by doping has ruined the competition. It has no integrity anymore.

I also think that in terms of politics and ethics etc, a state should not be able to own a club in someone's national league. The club becomes a potential political vehicle, and has scope for its powers to exceed what a club should have.
 

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I'm going to stick to my guns - this transfer will not happen. He's an attention-seeker that has taken this further than even he originally intended but he just isn't going to go to Ligue 1; he'll have a revelation during his "thought-clearing" in London that he wants to stay at Barcelona after all.

And even if PSG do sign Neymar, they've killed themselves. That's £198m in ONE HIT, on this year's accounts... the other big clubs are already ganging up on them not to bail them out of their FFP situation by paying big money for their players, PSG will either end up banned from European competition or lose pretty much all of their other desirable assets.
 
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