Also, the atmosphere was shite. So much for McGregor fans being mental, need to take lessons from Hatton's.
Conor McGregor vs Floyd Mayweather | Again?
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The fact that McGregor had to go to boxing to make serious money tells you all you need to know. Boxing is fine.
Also, you thought Jack beating the piss out of Cleverly was boring? Horses for courses I guess.
Hence why Mayweather is always getting called out, he's the only bloody fighter that can sell out Vegas and pull in the PPV figures we've seen over the years.
The sport needs to move on from Floyd now, he's had his day and I doubt we will ever see a guy earn as much ever again. The truth be told his last ten fights have mostly been boring affairs and the majority of people have watched in the hope someone might pull off a huge shock. He's now looking his age, he wasn't fit to fight last night and he laboured to a victory against a novice.
Gutted, was supposed to go to the fight, but couldn't get a flight last minute. My cousin had bought two tickets with the plan to sell them, however, as we still had them the day before, I tried to book a flight which was almost impossible.
I wish I'd bet more on that.
Still made just under £400 but if there was ever a bet to drop a few grand on it was Mayweather to win at 1/4.
Still made just under £400 but if there was ever a bet to drop a few grand on it was Mayweather to win at 1/4.
As for the actual fight, went exactly as predicted. Conor was not close to winning the fight for one second, and was a countdown to 'when' from the first bell.
I actually felt quite embarrassed for Conor as the fight wore on. For all the talk, he was completely out of his depth.
I actually felt quite embarrassed for Conor as the fight wore on. For all the talk, he was completely out of his depth.
In my opinion, nothing wrong with his stamina, it's the self management of his tank.
Regardless of how fit you are, the tank isn't limitless. So blazing in hot for four rounds, he fell off of a cliff.
McGregor said Mayweather wasn't on his level and he was absolutely right. He really is Mystic Mac.
Isn't that a rather naive strategy? Did they really expect to KO Floyd Mayweather in the first 4 rounds?
I've a feeling the prices of tickets for last night etc were a lot more expensive than for the Hatton fight. If so that's definitely what it was down too. Nearly all of the lads I know who follow McGregor's UFC exploits go to all his fights etc, didn't go to this at all. It was interesting how the atmosphere was 1000 times better for the weigh in than the actual fight.
For those asking why conor got so gassed, it's really simple. There is no healthy way to gain 15lbs after a week of dehydration and it not to have an effect on stamina. If he walked around at 160, did all the cardio work, weight 154 on the night then gained a few lbs he would have been fine.
I'm only a casual fan of boxing so I understand someone who is a real fan would look at it differently. But I haven't had anyone make me go watch a fight for a while. Paquiao Mayweather was the last time I went out of my way. But I can't think of anyone right now that I purposely watch other than Lomachencko.
Honestly when I seen that I thought how the feck did cleverly win the belt. That was a pretty pedestrian fight.
He was a paper champion to be fair. He retired afterwards. Probably for the best.
I agree
What do you mean paper champion? Interim or something? He didn't look that good a boxer.
His belt was a joke. The lineal light heavyweight champ is Adonis Stevenson. He holds the WBC title. Andre Ward holds the other belts and is generally recognised as the best in the division.
Boxing hasn't actually been "buzzing" for a long time. The odd sporadic fight of the decade candidate, but if you watch it regularly and not just on a huge PPV night you'd know there were lots of exciting fights at almost all the weight classes, it's just the names are completely unknown.
There was a fight a few years ago that went completely under the radar, as did the narrative for it. James Kirkland was essentially a middleweight Mike Tyson (in terms of character, not skill) and when he fought canelo it was a dream match up for me. Heavy hitting, brash American without a care for defence against a Mexican warrior. The first few rounds of that fight were worth the $100 people stateside had to pay last night, yet most people wouldn't even know it had ever taken place. The sport isn't getting the wider coverage but for those involved, it's still a cash cow albeit the hype has to be built up over a longer time now. Just wait until a few years pass, Anthony Joshua has defended his title and Deontay wilder is still undefeated. Both fighters will make more than any ufc fighter ever could.
Also, I'm sure you're aware but canelo and gennady golovkin fight next month in what has the potential to be one of the best fights of all time. People might laugh at that, but styles make fights and there isn't a hope in hell of a back Step in that fight.
Most boxers do the exact same thing and are fine for twelve rounds though. Perhaps not as much weight cut in the last week but in terms of rehydration, 16lbs is nothing spectacular.
Obviously there are other contributing factors but that's 100% the main one.
Those two ladies in the background are doing a wonderful job
Pics for those who were doomed to listen on radio?
He didn't work that hard though he only threw 430 punches in the whole fight. A volume punching boxer can throw 1000 in a fight.
Lend @Amadaeus a few quid??
Cheers btw.Can't post streams on here can I? I'll mail you it then these lot can ask you for it
Ffs, I fell asleep during the last undercard fight and missed it. How was it as a contest?
Very few boxers ever throw over 1000 punches.
About the cardio thing.
I think it's a case of you either have cardio or you don't. Many fighters drop a lot of weight and can still go 12 rounds in boxing or 25 mins in MMA.
Some can't and It's certainly looking like McGregor can't. Anyone who thinks his camp and himself are not aware of this and try to change it are foolish. Of course they know, but it's becoming clear there isn't much he can do about it. He had one of the very best nutrionists in the game for the entire camp and he still gassed
I would worry for Conor now if/when he returns to UFC. His opponents know, survive 2-3 rounds and they will have an advantage
I think it's a case of you either have cardio or you don't. Many fighters drop a lot of weight and can still go 12 rounds in boxing or 25 mins in MMA.
Some can't and It's certainly looking like McGregor can't. Anyone who thinks his camp and himself are not aware of this and try to change it are foolish. Of course they know, but it's becoming clear there isn't much he can do about it. He had one of the very best nutrionists in the game for the entire camp and he still gassed
I would worry for Conor now if/when he returns to UFC. His opponents know, survive 2-3 rounds and they will have an advantage
Loads of boxers have done it including Froch, Calzaghe, Paul Williams and Nathan Cleverley. Quick look on Google says Margarito threw 1675 in one fight against Clottey.
Cleverly vs Fonfara
Both fighters threw over 1000 in this fight: 1413 vs 1111
http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/...-decision-premier-boxing-champions-main-event
Yeah, just read back through the last couple of pages. Predictable gulf in class combined with stamina issues.The build up for Mayweather/Hatton remains my favourite.
14 mins in
Ricky was such a lad. I remember how much Sky Sports apologised for that at the time.The average would be nowhere near 1000, particularly at welterweight.
Always gonna be the exception to the rule I suppose.
And then you get these clowns, breaking the record for most punches in a round in round 12.
Does he gas like that in MMA fights? I've only seen the Aldo fight (not a great yard stick since it lasted 13 seconds ) and the two Diaz ones.
) and the two Diaz ones.We've only really seen him gas in the Diaz fight.Does he gas like that in MMA fights? I've only seen the Aldo fight (not a great yard stick since it lasted 13 seconds
I fell asleep too mate, was on way too late!
Even very fit men can gas when boxing when they don't learn to relax and pace their punches. A skilled boxer learns to throw punches with reasonable power without using much energy. They tend to use a shift of bodyweight to throw the punch, where as an unskilled boxer will muscle the punch which uses more energy. Boxers throw 1000s of punches a day for years to become efficient at doing so.
Also when you fight someone more skilled you tend to overcompensate by trying to throw combinations with speed and power that will leave you gassed quicker. When you miss punches it tires you too.
Lastly bodypunches tire you especially if you aren't used to taking them.
Yeah its hard to understand why McGregor for having a bit of a mouth on him (all part of selling the fight) is seen as worse than that other woman beater.
I don't think they would've as they would've risked getting hit themselves.
Imo not much of a contest at all, it all went Floyd's way and a little too much as if it was pre planned or something.
McGregor came out giddy and threw a lot of strong punches at Floyd round 1-3, Floyd soaked them up even the uppercut that connected. Round 4-10, McGregor gassed more as the rounds went on, Floyd found his rytham and played with McGregor really. I say pre planned as I think Floyd agreed to carry McGregor through the rounds to make it look more of a contest. If Floyd had heavier punches he'd have KO'd him earlier on, he was landing his punches more frequently and McGregors shots weren't doing anything, they were more tags than punches.
Floyd was seeing him through the rounds and coasted really. McGregor wanted the ref to let him carry on and let Floyd KO him which would have been very silly of McGregor and the ref.
It's not an exception to the rule. I said volume punchers throw about a 1000 per fight. It isn't uncommon for it to happen. The average is around 50 per round. McGregor threw 34, 42, 39, 16 & 51 in the first 5. Hardly busy for a boxer.