cyberman
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Theres a chance he could reach double figures by the start of October.
I said I don't think he'll be elite as I don't think he has the technical ability. Of course I could be wrong like, who seen Kane turning into what he is after all, but I doubt it.Making a sure statements like what player will be or won't be elite (which itself is a ambiguous word) is just nonsense as every players have their own trajectories.
No.He is as good as Mbappe though. Mbappe has had half a good season. He hasn't even been around for two seasons at the top level like Rashford.
It would be good to see how Mbappe would do in the PL. He wouldn't do much better than Rashford imo. Mbappe is so over rated off half a good season.
I do understand what you mean about close control and composure.In relation to the best talents around he does. Look at the skill Martial displayed tonight; the close control, the quick feet, the composure... that's what an elite talent looks like.
I don't see the comparison with Ronaldo either. He doesn't have anywhere near the same natural ability that Ronaldo had.
I am Rashford's biggest fan but there is no chance he is as good as Mbappe.He is as good as Mbappe though. Mbappe has had half a good season. He hasn't even been around for two seasons at the top level like Rashford.
It would be good to see how Mbappe would do in the PL. He wouldn't do much better than Rashford imo. Mbappe is so over rated off half a good season.
Why not? Mbappe is over hyped to death. The massive price tag has inflated his ability even more.I am Rashford's biggest fan but there is no chance he is as good as Mbappe.
And to they guy that said Rashford was championship level . Him getting those two goals was always going to happen tonight.
I know (hope) they'll both be starters and mainstays in our team in a few years.Martial has better dribbling than Cristiano at the same age but obviously you would pick Cristiano ahead. Why? Because everything else was top notch. If Rashford can do the same thing e.g. Improve finishing, vision and decision making and Martial doesn't do the same then obviously he will be a better player than Martial.
People are obsessed with natural ability on the ball but it's way over the top. Ronaldo can hardly dribble nowadays but is top 2 player in the world.
Martial is better than Rashford on a few things, but Rashford is better at more things than Martial.
Obviously it would be nice to have Martial really work on his major weaknesses, but I feel he doesn't have the same drive to do it as Rashford does. Anyway time will tell
It's post like these that bring in unnecessary and overdrawn debate.Martial has better dribbling than Cristiano at the same age but obviously you would pick Cristiano ahead. Why? Because everything else was top notch. If Rashford can do the same thing e.g. Improve finishing, vision and decision making and Martial doesn't do the same then obviously he will be a better player than Martial.
People are obsessed with natural ability on the ball but it's way over the top. Ronaldo can hardly dribble nowadays but is top 2 player in the world.
Martial is better than Rashford on a few things, but Rashford is better at more things than Martial.
Obviously it would be nice to have Martial really work on his major weaknesses, but I feel he doesn't have the same drive to do it as Rashford does. Anyway time will tell
Give over. The answer is very obviously not obvious. Why don't we just enjoy having two immensely talented and exciting youngsters, and appreciate that we have no idea who will turn out the better player?I mean just by watching both of them, is it really that hard to easily tell that Martial is simply a superior talent to Rashford and the better player? It's just that obvious to be honest.
One trick pony was the order of the day.Some of these comments man fakin 'ell lol
This guy and Martial are still so young man and they should improve. I would have loved to read these forums when Cristiano first joined us and see what people had to say about his painful low crossing abilities that always hit the first man.
Just be patient, I think we have 2 of some of the best youngsters in the prem and they are doing really well this season so far.
Anyway, Rashford great finish for the 1st and I love a post and in goal it just makes it look much better lol.
He'll probably be starting at the weekend so best to save him.I don't understand why Jose chose to take him off tonight. He was bloody brilliant.
He deserved an hat trick.
I can assure you he is still capable of beating one or two defenders with his dribbling. Sure he is not as flashy as he was, but efficient to the core.People are obsessed with natural ability on the ball but it's way over the top. Ronaldo can hardly dribble nowadays but is top 2 player in the world.
Pretty much this.Martial has better dribbling than Cristiano at the same age but obviously you would pick Cristiano ahead. Why? Because everything else was top notch. If Rashford can do the same thing e.g. Improve finishing, vision and decision making and Martial doesn't do the same then obviously he will be a better player than Martial.
People are obsessed with natural ability on the ball but it's way over the top. Ronaldo can hardly dribble nowadays but is top 2 player in the world.
Martial is better than Rashford on a few things, but Rashford is better at more things than Martial.
Obviously it would be nice to have Martial really work on his major weaknesses, but I feel he doesn't have the same drive to do it as Rashford does. Anyway time will tell
Was going to post exactly the same thingHe's on his way to being United's record goalscorer.
Oh sure he will! He works so hard in training, after training based on the peers and his emphasized physical improvements since his debut.I hope he will be a top striker. He has the quality to be good on the wing but I'm not sure that he can become a top wide forward/winger.
It's post like these that bring in unnecessary and overdrawn debate.
In no way shape and form is Rashford better than Martial in most things, that's just nonsense. And you're quick to reduce Martial to purely a dribbler which isn't the case at all.
Ever wonder why people holding this opinion about Rashford being on par or better than Martial usually bring the very same argument about movements? That's because beside that he doesn't have much on Martial.
I mean it has always surprised me to see that this has actually turned into a never ending debate about who is more talented or better when the answer is very obvious.
I mean just by watching both of them, is it really that hard to easily tell that Martial is simply a superior talent to Rashford and the better player? It's just that obvious to be honest.
People should just be content with having Rashford being a talented kid himself but when people want to constantly compare him to Martial and trying to weight arguments trying to equate their respective talents then that's when he becomes overrated.
You must think Ronaldo is average if thats how you judge players.Let's use yesterday's game as a litmus test; Apart from rashford's goals and assist, can anyone here really remember what else he did of high quality note that will be remembered?.. On the evidence of the last few pages of this thread, no one does
How 'bout martial, I bet we can all name at least 5 other note worthy moments of his performance and that says it all really... Rashford does not have more to his game than martial and that's no slight on the young English man
Maybe, but he has contributed the same amount of goals (32 - goals/assists) like Martial since their first games at United. And he played less games than Martial.Let's use yesterday's game as a litmus test; Apart from rashford's goals and assist, can anyone here really remember what else he did of high quality note that will be remembered?.. On the evidence of the last few pages of this thread, no one does
How 'bout martial, I bet we can all name at least 5 other note worthy moments of his performance and that says it all really... Rashford does not have more to his game than martial and that's no slight on the young English man
He has nowhere near the ability that Ronaldo had at the same age.
It's the exact same thing. He had a glorious chance and couldn't take it; which is what usually happens with him. I appreciate his work rate but I think he lacks technical ability.
Also, he's not eighteen. He's two months away from twenty which puts him in the same general age bracket as Mbappe, Dembele, Sane and Jesus; who are all more accomplished players.
He runs about a lot so people think he's better than he is. He's not a patch on Martial.
It's crazy how overrated he is on here. He was poor for most of last season and only ended up with five league goals. He's nowhere near Mbappe, Dembele, Martial et al.
He's right, Rashford was terrible today. He's our weakest attacker not named Lingard.
Not rating him as highly as others do isn't an agenda, it's a difference of opinion. I fail to see how pointing out he was poor today is nonsense either; he blatantly was.
He's nowhere near the talent that some people think he is.
He wouldn't get a game ahead of Jesus and Aguero.
He's having a good game but nobody has ever said that he isn't capable of that. It's the 'special talent' and 'as good as Mbappe et al' shouts that I completely disagree with.
I don't think he is. He doesn't have anywhere near the technical ability that someone like Martial has.
He'll always be a threat with his pace but I don't think he'll ever be truly elite and I think some of our fanbase are far too eager to (undeservingly) crown him as such.
If you ever want to see what an agenda poster looks like this is it. The majority of his posts here. Pathetic.In relation to the best talents around he does. Look at the skill Martial displayed tonight; the close control, the quick feet, the composure... that's what an elite talent looks like.
I don't see the comparison with Ronaldo either. He doesn't have anywhere near the same natural ability that Ronaldo had.
He had a few quality touches runs in the channel and turns in the first half. Second half he didn't influence it apart from a good assist.Let's use yesterday's game as a litmus test; Apart from rashford's goals and assist, can anyone here really remember what else he did of high quality note that will be remembered?.. On the evidence of the last few pages of this thread, no one does
How 'bout martial, I bet we can all name at least 5 other note worthy moments of his performance and that says it all really... Rashford does not have more to his game than martial and that's no slight on the young English man
I don't dislike him, I just don't think he's the new Ronaldo like so many on here seem to. That's a difference of opinion, not an agenda.If you ever want to see what an agenda poster looks like this is it. The majority of his posts here. Pathetic.
Have you seen the Martial thread in the last 6 months?The only thing martial has over rashford is hype and price tag. They're pretty much level at the moment I'd say.