Alexis Sanchez | Done deal

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Footyislife

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I like the breakdown and analysis but you're speaking about the Sanchez wages as if they're a fact.

The deal hasn't even been announced ffs. Why are ppl quoting shite click bait as the gospel now??
Why are you even posting in this thread then lol?
 

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I'm hearing if you include his wages, agent fee, signing on fee, transfer fee, image rights, vet bills for Atom & Humber, appearance bonuses, unused sub bonuses, goal bonuses, assist bonuses, loyalty bonuses, haircut costs, tight shirt purchases and photography fees it all adds up to 1.1 Billion can someone confirm thanks.
I mentioned in the Ozil thread earlier that we'll need to start providing journalists with average petrol consumption by weight of away match squad member, Carrington toilet paper consumption and individual contribution to treadmill belt wear and tear.
 

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There's two angles to dissect this deal, the football angle and the bean counter angle.

The question any football fan should ask is, does Alexi Sanchez improve Man Utd? The answer is yes. Where and how much, that's to be seen, and I'm sure we will debate that at length if this deal materializes.

Couple of thoughts on the finances:

1) Wages are not usually factored when we talk about a player's cost. They should, but they're not part of the lexicon. We say VVD cost 75m, or Pogba cost 89m, or Zlatan was free, but they're not playing for free so why not include wages for those players also? Ideally you'd look at the cost and wages and other fees and amortise them over the length of the contract.

2) Then the amortized player's cost should be at a healthy ratio against turnover. As far as United are concerned, it has one of the lowest wage to turnover ratios in the league according to the Swiss Ramble http://bit.ly/2DJ6LQc

3) The 180m cost is over 4.5 years, and it does not factor the fee recouped for Mkhitaryan going the other way. Nor does it factor the savings on Mkhi's salary. Be it as that may, United annual turnover is 580m and growing, you could project that turnover over the next 4.5 years to be over 2.6Billion. So whatever the net Sanchez cost, it's a drop in the bucket. I'm pretty sure Glazers have competent bean counters and they know what they're doing.
 

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City offered 13m after taxes in the summer we raised it by 1m, but the media wants to make it look like it's costing us a fortune ffs.

Neymar earns 700k pw, Messi 770k pw. Offsetting Mkhi's outgoing salary we take on net 360k pw. So essentially you take a player who struggles to get into the team, pay an extra 360k pw in wages and maybe an extra 5m to the scum Raiola and you get a superstar. Best transfer deal we've made in recent history. Agent fees, signing bonuses are pretty normal no matter who you sign so I don't see why that's being counted.

If you count everything (84m salary for 4.5 yrs., 30m signing bonus, 15 agent fee, 5m Raiola scum fee) this deal will probably cost us 29m per year for the next 4.5 yrs (still less than the salary of Ronaldo, Messi, & Neymar). Doesn't sound too exciting does it? Well in that case how do we turn that into a killer headline to get views, "Man Utd is spending 180m on a 29 yr old who's choosing money (1m more a yr...) over a team where he can win (get a trophy he doesn't deserve, and success is not guaranteed beyond this year)."
Agreed
 

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It's really funny how much Matt Law has succeeded in winding everybody up. His numbers are clearly fabricated, we will learn the real numbers in about 6 months time as usual but by then Matt Law will have moved to writing about how we are offering Dybala £2m a week to sign.
 

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So... what happened to Wenger saying Sanchez situation would be resolved in 48 hours?
 

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So... what happened to Wenger saying Sanchez situation would be resolved in 48 hours?
Probably been resolved. It's the Mkhi situation that's now being resolved. Raiola and Mkhi will want to squeeze us every penny for moving him to a club he doesn't want.
 

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The only way Sanchez is earning 500k a week on average for the next 4.5 years is if we win the treble every single season with Sanchez getting 50 goals and assists every single season. Wages aren't linear because we, like many other clubs, have strict wages to turnover policy and changes in turnover means changes in wages. There's no way Sanchez (or any other player in our squad) is making the same amount if we win the treble compared to winning nothing and not qualifying for the CL.
 

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The only way Sanchez is earning 500k a week on average for the next 4.5 years is if we win the treble every single season with Sanchez getting 50 goals and assists every single season. Wages aren't linear because we, like many other clubs, have strict wages to turnover policy and changes in turnover means changes in wages. There's no way Sanchez (or any other player in our squad) is making the same amount if we win the treble compared to winning nothing and not qualifying for the CL.
Doubt he is getting a 4.5 years contract either. Most likely 3.5 years + us having an option to extend it for another year.
 

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Was it really only yesterday that he got his haircut? It seems like a lifetime ago! :lol::boring:
 

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The other thing is that by doing this massive deal for Sanchez, which clearly we can afford, it will start a financial apartheid for the super clubs. A segregation.
This sets a precedence of what a top, top player can be expected to be paid within the EPL -- after the summer of PSG/Barca madness.

Who can keep up now with United and the oil-funded club? The rest will have to gamble on potential now. If this financial apartheid holds, I can see this being the beginning point of the European super league.
 

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Doubt he is getting a 4.5 years contract either. Most likely 3.5 years + us having an option to extend it for another year.
The transfer fees and wages are usually bigger than reality at this stage of the process. A few months down the track we will find out about the actual numbers and the T&C to get those numbers.
 

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City offered 13m after taxes in the summer we raised it by 1m, but the media wants to make it look like it's costing us a fortune ffs.

Neymar earns 700k pw, Messi 770k pw. Offsetting Mkhi's outgoing salary we take on net 360k pw. So essentially you take a player who struggles to get into the team, pay an extra 360k pw in wages and maybe an extra 5m to the scum Raiola and you get a superstar. Best transfer deal we've made in recent history. Agent fees, signing bonuses are pretty normal no matter who you sign so I don't see why that's being counted.

If you count everything (84m salary for 4.5 yrs., 30m signing bonus, 15 agent fee, 5m Raiola scum fee) this deal will probably cost us 29m per year for the next 4.5 yrs (still less than the salary of Ronaldo, Messi, & Neymar). Doesn't sound too exciting does it? Well in that case how do we turn that into a killer headline to get views, "Man Utd is spending 180m on a 29 yr old who's choosing money (1m more a yr...) over a team where he can win (get a trophy he doesn't deserve, and success is not guaranteed beyond this year)."
Very nicely put. Well done!
 
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