Spurs officially departed tonight

[el3mel]

That's an ignorant statement. I assume you recall nothing about our history in the competition bar '68, '99 and '08?

That's a terrible comparison. Us will remember what we did in the competition every year. Any other neutral won't care and won't remember if we get eliminated from 16th round or QF.

Next years no one will remember this Spurs campaign except Spurs fans and Poch defenders. They did nothing special for them to be remembered.

 

[adexkola]

That's a terrible comparison. Us will remember what we did in the competition every year. Any other neutral won't care and won't remember if we get eliminated from 16th round or QF.

Next years no one will remember this Spurs campaign except Spurs fans and Poch defenders. They did nothing special for them to be remembered.

Do you like, not watch football, at all? Or do you have a shitty memory? Shit, I remember APOEL (of all teams) making it to the QF. Many people remember Chelsea's flirts in the competition (Ovrebo, ghost goal) before they won it. I'm not sure who blanks out anything not involving the winners.

 

[el3mel]

Do you like, not watch football, at all? Or do you have a shitty memory? Shit, I remember APOEL (of all teams) making it to the QF. Many people remember Chelsea's flirts in the competition (Ovrebo, ghost goal) before they won it. I'm not sure who blanks out anything not involving the winners.

You can remember freaks but tell me one thing memorable about this Spurs campaign to remember it 5 years next. Defeating Madrid in a meaningless group game that meant nothing in contest and bottling a lead against Juve on their home. Very memorable yeah.

 

[Cal?]

Do you like, not watch football, at all? Or do you have a shitty memory? Shit, I remember APOEL (of all teams) making it to the QF. Many people remember Chelsea's flirts in the competition (Ovrebo, ghost goal) before they won it. I'm not sure who blanks out anything not involving the winners.

Those are some of the most memorable incidents in the CL in recent memory.

Do you remember any of Arsenal’s losses in the last 16?

 

[Boycott]

Do you like, not watch football, at all? Or do you have a shitty memory? Shit, I remember APOEL (of all teams) making it to the QF. Many people remember Chelsea's flirts in the competition (Ovrebo, ghost goal) before they won it. I'm not sure who blanks out anything not involving the winners.

Mate this idea that only winners are always remembered is bollocks. In my lifetime Spurs have won a UEFA Cup, a few FA Cups and League Cups yet they're talked about as a nothing club with no history on here. I saw Ipswich under the great Bobby Robson win the UEFA Cup and more significantly Aston Villa winning the European Cup. No one talks about them winning what was a very prestigious competition. That Villa side is practically unheralded despite being the Kings of Europe. This is not ancient history. This was the 1980s.

 

[Ban]

Mate this idea that only winners are always remembered is bollocks. In my lifetime Spurs have won a UEFA Cup, a few FA Cups and League Cups yet they're talked about as a nothing club with no history on here. I saw Ipswich under the great Bobby Robson win the UEFA Cup and more significantly Aston Villa winning the European Cup. No one talks about them winning what was a very prestigious competition. That Villa side is practically unheralded despite being the Kings of Europe. This is not ancient history. This was the 1980s.

Who said that only winners are remembered.
All I'm saying Spurs outplaying Juventus in the last 16 of CL will not be remembered. It wasn't some remarkable CL tie or anything similar.
Nobody said Spurs have no history either.

 

[adexkola]

Those are some of the most memorable incidents in the CL in recent memory.

Do you remember any of Arsenal’s losses in the last 16?

Absolutely. The Barcelona loss where RVP gets sent off after kicking the ball a second after the ref's whistle. Winning at the Allianz yet crashing out on away goals.

Or going back further. Real's streak of last 16 exits. The Arsenal before Arsenal. Exits to teams like Roma and Lyon.

I'm not sure what is so astonishing about the idea that football is way more than what is won, and narratives of other teams make it into the history books (which for anyone who wants to know more, is online at uefa.com). The casual fan who tunes into the CL final may fall under this select group of people who only care about the winners. I'm not talking to them, fortunately.

 

[fcbforever]

Those are some of the most memorable incidents in the CL in recent memory.

Do you remember any of Arsenal’s losses in the last 16?

I do. Well, they were mostly part of our own campaigns, so there's that...

I have to agree with the general point though, Tottenhams campaign will be forgotten in no time. People remember good stories first and foremost. An uninspiring winner will be forgotten just as everyone else. Villa is a good example here, others include Inter's CL win (although it's more recent, but it will have the same fate eventually)PSG's bottle last year? That will last forever. Our lost final at home to Chelsea? As well. I'm sorry @adexkola , but Spurs, to the general fan, is a nothing club standing for nothing and them playing a nice game against Juve before going out won't change it.

 

[Jim Beam]

It's funny, but I think those mocking Spurs for losing should wait until we secure our spot in the quarter finals. We could just as easily 'bottle it" against Seville but people are treating it as a formality or something.

The thing is that I have very little doubt if we go past Sevilla some objective people will point out that we should go through anyway, or that performance wasn't the best along with some other level-headed argument. So, the question is when we're supposed to laugh? After we win the league or a treble?
Don't remember much sympathy when we went out battering our opponent, only to be left with 10 players against Madrid or Bayern. That was harsh, not falling apart in space of few minutes of the match, while the referee forgives you a clear penalty and almost gives you 2-yard offside goal at the end.
If we go out against Sevilla, then yeah, other fans will take great pleasure from it. If we went out against Madrid in the next round, guess what, they will also do it. It's natural.

Is this "football correctness" a new thing as I didn't notice it so much before? (not pointed at you, but some posts in this thread)

We can easily step on a lego or any other solid object but that doesn't mean our feet should never be on the ground.

Touché.

 

[adexkola]

I do. Well, they were mostly part of our own campaigns, so there's that...

I have to agree with the general point though, Tottenhams campaign will be forgotten in no time. People remember good stories first and foremost. An uninspiring winner will be forgotten just as everyone else. Villa is a good example here, others include Inter's CL win (although it's more recent, but it will have the same fate eventually)PSG's bottle last year? That will last forever. Our lost final at home to Chelsea? As well. I'm sorry @adexkola , but Spurs, to the general fan, is a nothing club standing for nothing and them playing a nice game against Juve before going out won't change it.

Er... ok?

FWIW, I also remember Milan knocking youse out in 2007 at the Allianz in the QF.

 

[fcbforever]

Er... ok?

FWIW, I also remember Milan knocking youse out in 2007 at the Allianz in the QF.

You are an odd person than and not a represantation of the usual, or even a more determined, football fan.

 

[Ekkie Thump]

I do. Well, they were mostly part of our own campaigns, so there's that...

I have to agree with the general point though, Tottenhams campaign will be forgotten in no time. People remember good stories first and foremost. An uninspiring winner will be forgotten just as everyone else. Villa is a good example here, others include Inter's CL win (although it's more recent, but it will have the same fate eventually)PSG's bottle last year? That will last forever. Our lost final at home to Chelsea? As well. I'm sorry @adexkola , but Spurs, to the general fan, is a nothing club standing for nothing and them playing a nice game against Juve before going out won't change it.

Nope. Part of the only Italian treble, you lot turning on the sprinklers, Mourinho rubbing it in and denying you the chance to play for the title in Madrid. All memorable stuff I'm afraid - even if the final wasn't.

 

[Boycott]

Who said that only winners are remembered.
All I'm saying Spurs outplaying Juventus in the last 16 of CL will not be remembered. It wasn't some remarkable CL tie or anything similar.
Nobody said Spurs have no history either.

There's plenty of posts along that line on these boards and elsewhere. Seems to always come from folks who only knew of the success under Ferguson and as a result lose perspective. If football is all about winning which is a fallacy because everybody would just support the big clubs then.

If I told you in the 70s and 80s Tottenham won more trophies than Utd would you believe it? Or that at the start of Utd's maiden PL title season, Arsenal had three more league titles, Everton had two more, Sunderland were equal and Villa were just one less. Utd under Ferguson have gone above and beyond but again, it's not so long ago that supporters were dreaming of just one more league title after 26 years never mind eclipsing Liverpool.

 

[adexkola]

You are an odd person than and not a represantation of the usual, or even a more determined, football fan.

alright boss.

 

[fcbforever]

Nope. Part of the only Italian treble, you lot turning on the sprinklers, Mourinho rubbing it in and denying you the chance to play for the title in Madrid. All memorable stuff I'm afraid - even if the final wasn't.

Eh...we played the final in Madrid. And we didn't turn on any sprinklers.

 

[fcbforever]

alright boss.

Seriously, even I don't know the scores or who our coach was at the time. Still Magath? Magath fired already? No idea.

 

[Ekkie Thump]

Eh...we played the final in Madrid. And we didn't turn on any sprinklers.

My bad - saw FCB and thought it meant Barcelona. Should have read your tagline.

 

[Ban]

There's plenty of posts along that line on these boards and elsewhere. Seems to always come from folks who only knew of the success under Ferguson and as a result lose perspective. If football is all about winning which is a fallacy because everybody would just support the big clubs then.

If I told you in the 70s and 80s Tottenham won more trophies than Utd would you believe it? Or that at the start of Utd's maiden PL title season, Arsenal had three more league titles, Everton had two more, Sunderland were equal and Villa were just one less. Utd under Ferguson have gone above and beyond but again, it's not so long ago that supporters were dreaming of just one more league title after 26 years never mind eclipsing Liverpool.

What's your point?
In 1990 it was like that in 2018 it's completely different.

 

[ShadesOfTomato]

I'm not really one to give credit to a chance that was a full yard or so offside.

Whether you do or don't, it's a fact that Spurs came within a whisker of equalising. Suggests they didn't really fall to pieces.

 

[Boycott]

What's your point?
In 1990 it was like that in 2018 it's completely different.

The point is a lot of people on this board in recent seasons have shown themselves ignorant of history and arrogant. On a broader point a lot of people who chose to support the so-called big clubs have thrown the toys out of the pram at the first sign of trouble. Utd's malaise (three cups post Fergie) and Arsenal's malaise (three cups in four years) is something loads of clubs would dream about. It doesn't make those fans of those clubs small-time....it's perspective and some people here could do with it.

 

[horsechoker]

Spurs fecked up, they're out, let's have a laugh.

 

[K2K]

I was in the middle of writing an essay for my Masters (deadline was midnight) saw the score at approximately 8:50 and it was 3-0, thought oh well, Liverpool are gonna win... Then I checked back in 2 hours with my essay pretty much complete, and it read 3-3, couldn't believe my eyes!

Still though, it wasn't a patch on Stevie's slip, that was the most epic bit of Schadenfreude I've ever experienced, what made it better was that I watched it at a Liverpool fan's house, surrounded by his Liverpool supporting family, was a beautiful sight

That's brave considering they had won 11 games on the trot and their fans had seemingly convinced themselves that the league was a sure thing.

They gladly mocked us with that David Moyes statute too.

I avoided all Liverpool fans like the plague during that run.

But nothing beats that day. It was glorious. It still is.

 

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[Rhyme Animal]

I'm far from a Spurs sympathizer, but that's harsh on Kane - Chiellini is a beast of a defender and Kane's still learning his craft.

That said, hopefully it served as a wake up call for him with the World Cup coming up.

I really want him to step up in the Summer.

 

[Deleted member 101472]

I'm far from a Spurs sympathizer, but that's harsh on Kane - Chiellini is a beast of a defender and Kane's still learning his craft.

That said, hopefully it served as a wake up call for him with the World Cup coming up.

I really want him to step up in the Summer.

I really just thought the picture was hilarious.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

What? Inter were 4-0 up at half time. They completely battered spurs.

Because of the Gomes red card.
When they faced each other 11 vs 11 you saw the out come

 

[GazTheLegend]

Not sure how many of you have already seen this but I love it.

 

[vadimivich]

I'm far from a Spurs sympathizer, but that's harsh on Kane - Chiellini is a beast of a defender and Kane's still learning his craft.

Kane dominated Chiellini anyways, that wasn't the problem. Spurs lost a lot when Chiellini clattered Dele out of the game, probably the turning point in the match (he played on for 15 minutes or so but was clearly useless).

 

[Anustart89]

Spurs:

 

[meninred]

This was really bad result to spurs.This was their game to make a statement of intent on continental stage.

 

[Giggs86]

I'm far from a Spurs sympathizer, but that's harsh on Kane - Chiellini is a beast of a defender and Kane's still learning his craft.

That said, hopefully it served as a wake up call for him with the World Cup coming up.

I really want him to step up in the Summer.

World class striker according to many.

 

[BringNaniBack]

Kane dominated Chiellini anyways, that wasn't the problem. Spurs lost a lot when Chiellini clattered Dele out of the game, probably the turning point in the match (he played on for 15 minutes or so but was clearly useless).

Alli is always useless.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Alli is always useless.

He's been useless for most of this season that's for sure.

 

[Ramshock]

 

[totaalvoetbal]

"Italians can’t beat you, but you can lose against them" - Johan Cruijff

 

[rotherham_red]

That's brave considering they had won 11 games on the trot and their fans had seemingly convinced themselves that the league was a sure thing.

They gladly mocked us with that David Moyes statute too.

I avoided all Liverpool fans like the plague during that run.

But nothing beats that day. It was glorious. It still is.

Lol, he's my best friend, and tbh I'd resigned myself to them winning it so just went with the flow. Gave as good as I got and when Demba tucked it away I just hoovered up those tears

 

[RedFish]

Spurs

 

[africanspur]

There's plenty of posts along that line on these boards and elsewhere. Seems to always come from folks who only knew of the success under Ferguson and as a result lose perspective. If football is all about winning which is a fallacy because everybody would just support the big clubs then.

If I told you in the 70s and 80s Tottenham won more trophies than Utd would you believe it? Or that at the start of Utd's maiden PL title season, Arsenal had three more league titles, Everton had two more, Sunderland were equal and Villa were just one less. Utd under Ferguson have gone above and beyond but again, it's not so long ago that supporters were dreaming of just one more league title after 26 years never mind eclipsing Liverpool.

This is an excellent post, I think some people lose all semblance of context, honestly.

I have to say, what is this obsession with 'being remembered'? 'If Spurs don't win trophies soon, they won't be remembered'. 'Nobody will remember this CL campaign of Spurs.

Honestly, who the hell cares? Does anyone support their football team so that random neutrals remember their team's exploits? I can assure you that I and all Spurs fans will remember this team, even if it ultimately ends up with no trophies. I'll remember that home game against Getafe, our first European home loss in a long time I think, where it spread around that Jol was getting sacked and the emotion was unbelievable. Why would I care if we aren't remembered by neutrals?

I'm actually the complete opposite of adexkola. Other than a few iconic moments (ie Istanbul), I have no recollection pretty much of who won what. I couldn't tell you who won the league, FA cup, league cup, CL, Europa League, La liga, Serie A, etc etc 5 years ago. I'd guess at Barca for la liga and Juve for Serie A and one of the two Spanish giants for the CL but that's it. I don't think that would matter for anyone really.


As an aside, I chuckled at the thread change.

 

[RedFish]

Spurs praise is nauseous? I just don't get that.

Why can't we sit back and admire the journey they're on? In a world increasingly dominated by PSG & Man City financial doping.

Spurs are a young, developing side, with a bright young manager. They play progressive, modern football. They can press high or sit off and look to play on the break. Their star man is an academy player. They're constantly punching above their weight in terms of wages and transfers.

They've basically done everything right. They're building a club and squad through their own means. It's everything thats good about football, unlike City.

Schadenfreude. Bliss.

 

[Denis79]

Spurs can hold their heads high, they have taken steps forward this season and showed they can match the big teams. There is no shame in losing to Juventus the way they did. What they need to do now is fight off clubs that are after their players and continue to build in the same fashion.

Except Kane, who should be sold to us.