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flappyjay

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I hope you are right, we are in desperate need of return to his previous form.
My point is that a bit of rest guarantees nothing. It didn't help pogba last year, nor Rooneys form for his last number of seasons with us.
Nor Mkhitaryan
 

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I hope you are right, we are in desperate need of return to his previous form.
My point is that a bit of rest guarantees nothing. It didn't help pogba last year, nor Rooneys form for his last number of seasons with us.
Those players were already at the club. Sanchez came mid-season and had to adapt to a completely different playing style. So a proper preseason will help Jose to better understand how to get the best out of Sanchez. Also, all the top players are off to the world cup and will need more time to get going in the league. Sanchez can be very crucial in those initial few months. It's just a small edge I know but let's hope things work out.
 

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Those players were already at the club. Sanchez came mid-season and had to adapt to a completely different playing style. So a proper preseason will help Jose to better understand how to get the best out of Sanchez. Also, all the top players are off to the world cup and will need more time to get going in the league. Sanchez can be very crucial in those initial few months. It's just a small edge I know but let's hope things work out.
There are a good few players that Jose has to figure out how to get the best out of them over the summer.
Let's hope he can come up with some improved ideas.
 

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Guy really needs a holiday, he works hard for his money with all his assists and goals.
 

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Guy really needs a holiday, he works hard for his money with all his assists and goals.
No white text? 2 goals & 4 assists in 18 appearances isn't exactly good numbers for supposedly world class talent.

I won't write him off yet but he's been nothing short of shite since joining thus far.
 

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No white text? 2 goals & 4 assists in 18 appearances isn't exactly good numbers for supposedly world class talent.

I won't write him off yet but he's been nothing short of shite since joining thus far.
how much do you get to defend this overpaid clown?
 

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No white text? 2 goals & 4 assists in 18 appearances isn't exactly good numbers for supposedly world class talent.

I won't write him off yet but he's been nothing short of shite since joining thus far.
He came in January, in the middle of the season in a team that hasn't fully found its feet attacking wise.

He hasn't been bad in every game and has moments which have been good.

We didn't sign him for 6 months, give OUR player a chance, he's not some random player off the street but a player who has proven his talent for many years!

Its insane that fans don't want to show their support and actually give him a chance knowing what he's capable of!
 

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He came in January, in the middle of the season in a team that hasn't fully found its feet attacking wise.

He hasn't been bad in every game and has moments which have been good.

We didn't sign him for 6 months, give OUR player a chance, he's not some random player off the street but a player who has proven his talent for many years!

Its insane that fans don't want to show their support and actually give him a chance knowing what he's capable of!
Are you mental? :lol:. I clearly said I wasn't writing him off yet. I was just commenting on his time with us so far.

how much do you get to defend this overpaid clown?
Are you also mental? I didn't defend him, I was criticizing him :lol:.


Get the coffee in lads, yer still asleep!
 

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He came in January, in the middle of the season in a team that hasn't fully found its feet attacking wise.

He hasn't been bad in every game and has moments which have been good.

We didn't sign him for 6 months, give OUR player a chance, he's not some random player off the street but a player who has proven his talent for many years!

Its insane that fans don't want to show their support and actually give him a chance knowing what he's capable of!
A player who has performed at such a level in this league for years shouldn't need 6 months to "settle in" or a "rest" halfway through the season. I'm not buying these excuses like many others.

Sanchez is a work horse with an eye for goal and a good touch. He showed nothing of that last season for us. He fits the profile of a "Jose signing"

I'll base Sanchez on his performances, like I do every other player. Not 1 game I've seen him play for us where I've thought he impressed or had a good game. I'm actually shocked at how poor he has been so far.

Of course I hope he improves because Jose doesn't look like dropping him. Early days in his utd career so far, be interesting to see how he goes next season. first 5-10 games he's at this level then he needs to sit on the bench
 

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He needs a holiday because he's played a shit-load of football over the last few years and is obviously struggling after his big move to a team that was malfunctioning before he arrived. You absolute weapon.
Maybe some here should be cutting the other attacking players some slack, clearly the issues are not just personnel
 

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Guy really needs a holiday, he works hard for his money with all his assists and goals.
Oh yeah, assists and goals are the measure of hard work. That Kante is a lazy bastard.

If you won't consider the countless variables that would affect Sanchez and his performances so far at the club then that's your problem.
 

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He needs a holiday because he's played a shit-load of football over the last few years and is obviously struggling after his big move to a team that was malfunctioning before he arrived. You absolute weapon.
Oh yeah, assists and goals are the measure of hard work. That Kante is a lazy bastard.

If you won't consider the countless variables that would affect Sanchez and his performances so far at the club then that's your problem.
Imagine unironically defending Rooney 2.0. So many people here really hate the club and don't want to win anything. The #1 variable is Alexis has a fat 4.5 year long contract which runs until he is 33 years old and he's has zero incentive to perform whatsoever.
 

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Maybe some here should be cutting the other attacking players some slack, clearly the issues are not just personnel
Maybe. We’ve been pretty woeful as an attacking force since Christmas (perhaps even earlier?). The rot started before Sanchez arrived and continued until the end of the season.

Whatever, it’s obviously more difficult for the new guy to excel after being dropped into a team that’s playing poorly than it is for the players already settled at the club.
 
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Imagine unironically defending Rooney 2.0. So many people here really hate the club and don't want to win anything.
Imagine un-ironically writing off a player after four months and then acting like that's somehow the sensible, rational thing to do.
 

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Imagine unironically defending Rooney 2.0. So many people here really hate the club and don't want to win anything. The #1 variable is Alexis has a fat 4.5 year long contract which runs until he is 33 years old and he's has zero incentive to perform whatsoever.
You're having an absolute mare here.
 

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You're having an absolute mare here.
I think only slave workers have an incentive to perform, because they only get bread and soup if they do a good job. If you get paid to work then you have no incentive.
 

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Imagine unironically defending Rooney 2.0. So many people here really hate the club and don't want to win anything. The #1 variable is Alexis has a fat 4.5 year long contract which runs until he is 33 years old and he's has zero incentive to perform whatsoever.[/QUOTE]

:lol: what?
 

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I think only slave workers have an incentive to perform, because they only get bread and soup if they do a good job. If you get paid to work then you have no incentive.
Yeah I read that stuff 3 times and still can't believe it. He has a contract of 4,5 years (a fat one) so he doesn't need to perform.. Mental.
 

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Imagine unironically defending Rooney 2.0. So many people here really hate the club and don't want to win anything. The #1 variable is Alexis has a fat 4.5 year long contract which runs until he is 33 years old and he's has zero incentive to perform whatsoever.
:lol:
 

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My problem with Alexis is that we bought him to play as second striker, right winger or maybe No 10, not as a left winger. Jose's United team has very little width during his two year tenure with Mata or Lingard normally playing as a narrow No 10/right winger with Rashford or Martial originally staying wide to give the team some width on the left.
Sanchez is failing for the following reasons at United;
1. He lacks the elite pace of Rashford or Martial.
2. He comes inside and occupies the same areas as Lingard, Pogba and Mata.
3. He's played too much football for a 29 year old and needs a proper summer rest.
4. Jose failure to use a genuine left footed Wing Back does not help his situation with overlapping play.
5. The contract he signed has had an adverse effect on some Uniteda Players, especially a 20 year old Rashford and a 22 year Martial asking themselves why is this guy being paid 8 to 10 times per week what I am?
6. He loses possession far too much because other united players movements is currently not good enough!

Jose wanted him when he clearly didn't fit the team shape, unless we were going to play a 4-2-2-2 or 3-1-4-2 or even a 4-3-1-2 formation and all of those formations like most modern football team shapes requires exceptional wing backs. (Which we do not have!)
To get the most out of Sanchez, Lukaku, Pogba, Rashford or Martial, we should have purchased two world class wing backs this transfer window like David Alaba and Joshua Kimich for £150M and then we would have seen a significant improvement in the team!
 

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Imagine unironically defending Rooney 2.0. So many people here really hate the club and don't want to win anything. The #1 variable is Alexis has a fat 4.5 year long contract which runs until he is 33 years old and he's has zero incentive to perform whatsoever.
I don't know what's more distressful, Alexis being on a fat 4.5 year contract with zero incentive to perform or you moaning on a forum for free.
 

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Load of nonsense about how we were such a poor team prior to signing Sanchez. We'd won 4 on the bounce without conceding a goal and had only failed to score once in our previous fifteen games. It was the insistence on shoehorning Sanchez in on the left instead of Martial that weakened our attack and let to our increasingly toothless displays in the second half of the season.
 

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He's good in PES for me so We're fine. He can run past 2-3 players easily. PES Machine.
 

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A player who has performed at such a level in this league for years shouldn't need 6 months to "settle in" or a "rest" halfway through the season. I'm not buying these excuses like many others.

Sanchez is a work horse with an eye for goal and a good touch. He showed nothing of that last season for us. He fits the profile of a "Jose signing"
- Yes he has though, in patches i'll admit but he's still bedding into a totally different type of attack and can easily be the difference next season

I'll base Sanchez on his performances, like I do every other player. Not 1 game I've seen him play for us where I've thought he impressed or had a good game. I'm actually shocked at how poor he has been so far.
- We all base off performance but the age old saying goes form is temporary and class is permanent, you're writing him off so quickly as if you want him to fail

Of course I hope he improves because Jose doesn't look like dropping him. Early days in his utd career so far, be interesting to see how he goes next season. first 5-10 games he's at this level then he needs to sit on the bench
- Nothing wrong in trying to play him into form, its not like we were challenging for the title, in the end we finished 2nd, it was no great risk to try get a new player of Sanchez's quality into form]/QUOTE]
 

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Imagine unironically defending Rooney 2.0. So many people here really hate the club and don't want to win anything. The #1 variable is Alexis has a fat 4.5 year long contract which runs until he is 33 years old and he's has zero incentive to perform whatsoever.
This is absolute nonsense. By your reckoning, what player on a half decent wage has any incentive to perform?
 

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Load of nonsense about how we were such a poor team prior to signing Sanchez. We'd won 4 on the bounce without conceding a goal and had only failed to score once in our previous fifteen games. It was the insistence on shoehorning Sanchez in on the left instead of Martial that weakened our attack and let to our increasingly toothless displays in the second half of the season.
Your memory is shite.

We finished our Christmas fixtures by drawing three league games in a row. Against Leicester, Burnley and Southampton (we failed to score in that game, at home). We won the next three but against average/poor teams (Everton, Stoke and Burnley) That was when Sanchez joined and we basically continued the mediocre form of those previous six fixtures for the rest of the season.

The only upside being beating Liverpool and City in the league and Spurs in the FA Cup, the latter two games in which Sanchez played a key role.
 

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Your memory is shite.

We finished our Christmas fixtures by drawing three league games in a row. Against Leicester, Burnley and Southampton (we failed to score in that game, at home). We won the next three but, again, against poor teams (Everton, Stoke and Burnley) That was when Sanchez joined and we basically continued the mediocre form of those previous six fixtures for the rest of the season.

The only upside being beating City in the league and Spurs in the FA Cup, two games where Sanchez played a key role.
You are confusing facts with memories. 4 wins without conceding a goal turned into losing 2 of our next 4 after signing Sanchez. Scoring in 14 out of 15 games turned into drawing a blank in 3 out of 6 after signing Sanchez. Those are facts.

The Christmas games are irrelevant to my point. I said our attack got weaker because we shoehorned Sanchez in place of Martial. Against Leicester Martial started and we were winning, Mourinho subbed him for Rashford (who was shockingly bad) and we ended up drawing. He then missed the game against Burnley and was only on the bench against Southampton. He came back into the team against Everton, scored, and we won. He started against Stoke, scored again, and got an assist, and we won. Then he started against Burnley, scored for the third game running and we won again. He was easily our best attacker at that time and winning us games week after week.

Mourinho then sign Sanchez and insists on him starting every game in Martial's position. We promptly put in one of our worst performances of the season against Tottenham and in our next away game lost to Newcastle. We went from losing 2 of our previous 15 league games to losing 2 of 3 after signing him. From then until the end of the season we scored less goals and got worse results than we did before we signed him. Naming the occasional good performance from him in four months is meaningless. Virtually every premier league footballer, even the most limited, will put in a good performance every couple of months. It's the exact kind of ridiculously low bar that Rooney defenders used to use when confronted with evidence of his performances and the effect they were having on United. It says a lot that people are already resorting to this with regard to Sanchez.
 

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You are confusing facts with memories. 4 wins without conceding a goal turned into losing 2 of our next 4 after signing Sanchez. Scoring in 14 out of 15 games turned into drawing a blank in 3 out of 6 after signing Sanchez. Those are facts.

The Christmas games are irrelevant to my point. I said our attack got weaker because we shoehorned Sanchez in place of Martial. Against Leicester Martial started and we were winning, Mourinho subbed him for Rashford (who was shockingly bad) and we ended up drawing. He then missed the game against Burnley and was only on the bench against Southampton. He came back into the team against Everton, scored, and we won. He started against Stoke, scored again, and got an assist, and we won. Then he started against Burnley, scored for the third game running and we won again. He was easily our best attacker at that time and winning us games week after week.

Mourinho then sign Sanchez and insists on him starting every game in Martial's position. We promptly put in one of our worst performances of the season against Tottenham and in our next away game lost to Newcastle. We went from losing 2 of our previous 15 league games to losing 2 of 3 after signing him. From then until the end of the season we scored less goals and got worse results than we did before we signed him. Naming the occasional good performance from him in four months is meaningless. Virtually every premier league footballer, even the most limited, will put in a good performance every couple of months. It's the exact kind of ridiculously low bar that Rooney defenders used to use when confronted with evidence of his performances and the effect they were having on United. It says a lot that people are already resorting to this with regard to Sanchez.
:lol: of course they are...
 

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The three games we drew had nothing to do with not playing Martial though. The Burnley draw was because Jose tried to play Lukaku and Ibra up front and it didn't work. He switched Ibra for Lingard at half time and we got it back to 2-2. Martial wasn’t even good against Leicester and he was one of the players who missed a big chance. The Southampton draw was more down to Lukaku getting injured early on.

To then say everything was rosy after that because we beat Everton, Burnley, Derby and Stoke is stretching it. Credit to Martial for the Everton and Burnley games but it’s not like the poster above is trying to make out. Sanchez was important in us beating City and Spurs for example.
 

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I don't get why the contract point is being laughed at. Let's be honest here, if Sanchez's first priority was to win trophies he'd have gone to City. He's only at Utd because we're paying him a ridiculous amount of money.
 

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I don't get why the contract point is being laughed at. Let's be honest here, if Sanchez's first priority was to win trophies he'd have gone to City. He's only at Utd because we're paying him a ridiculous amount of money.
Pep or money.
 
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