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[EyeInTheSky]

Oh yeh I'd agree with that completely. I was taking you up on the assertion that voting leave meant you were either racist, thick or both...



And just to clarify I live in an area that voted over 70% leave (I voted remain btw). Yes there are racists here and there are some people who others might regard as thick but there's also those who are are neither who voted to leave. I know people like this.

I think that is an important point to make. There is a significant number of people we can label thick, racist or both. The key question is how many non-thick racists voted to leave?

also, I label anyone who votes to make their lives even worse as thick. Let us not get too PC about it. What other words can you use for the poorest regions voting leave so that the only thing keeping them in a job moves to a different country so they can be even poorer? I am sure they will still have some foreigners they can blame for their plight.

What these morons don't and will never realise is that their poverty or perceived hard luck was around well before a brown face ever landed in their country. Fecking idiots.

 

[Green_Red]

Well they have a low opinion of me purely for the colour of my skin

I think it's your attitude that's the issue. Colour of your skin is irrelevant for most people. I know plenty of white wankers and people don't like them either, they don't cry racism.

 

[Striker10]

Voting to leave isn't racism. It was never racism. Immigration is fine but blindly accepting is madness. The reason being the culture becomes unstable. Cultures do not always respect the divide, one will eventually look to dominate. Didn't people used to go to war to protect their people and fight for their land? Now, it seems the way to infiltrate is put those who would fight in a far away country and then pray on the empathy of those watching the lying news media to let everyone in. We've lots of land and I think we can manage. Those that fear monger don't really seem to have much faith in the resourcefulness of this country but there are many nations and many people that would love to leave the EU. Not because Europe isn't an amazing community, it's the fact those in charge are psychos who we never elected, who don't give a shit about us or our community and who don't even care about refugees...All they are to them, is a means to an end. The issue is ending war....that is the issue. But you get these little dictators with a god complex trying to destroy the cultures of Europe. Brexit would be the best thing that could happen because as a country, we WOULD really have to pull together. In the EU, I don't think you can create that same spirit. People have to put aside their differences and that will not happen under a dictatorship because they will flood this nation and destroy it's culture 10 times over. In addition, Brexit was never about racism. Racism is a political tool used to promote multi culturalism which is promotion and celebration of immigration.

 

[JPRouve]

And just to clarify I live in an area that voted over 70% leave (I voted remain btw). Yes there are racists here and there are some people who others might regard as thick but there's also those who are are neither who voted to leave. I know people like this.

Yeah, my guess is that the majority of people are misinformed to a fairly dangerous level because they don't know much about what is actually surrounding them, then you have a large minority of racists and then an extremely small amount of people that we arrogantly call thick.

 

[Kentonio]

Voting to leave isn't racism. It was never racism. Immigration is fine but blindly accepting is madness. The reason being the culture becomes unstable. Cultures do not always respect the divide, one will eventually look to dominate. Didn't people used to go to war to protect their people and fight for their land? Now, it seems the way to infiltrate is put those who would fight in a far away country and then pray on the empathy of those watching the lying news media to let everyone in. We've lots of land and I think we can manage. Those that fear monger don't really seem to have much faith in the resourcefulness of this country but there are many nations and many people that would love to leave the EU. Not because Europe isn't an amazing community, it's the fact those in charge are psychos who we never elected, who don't give a shit about us or our community and who don't even care about refugees...All they are to them, is a means to an end. The issue is ending war....that is the issue. But you get these little dictators with a god complex trying to destroy the cultures of Europe. Brexit would be the best thing that could happen because as a country, we WOULD really have to pull together. In the EU, I don't think you can create that same spirit. People have to put aside their differences and that will not happen under a dictatorship because they will flood this nation and destroy it's culture 10 times over. In addition, Brexit was never about racism. Racism is a political tool used to promote multi culturalism which is promotion and celebration of immigration.

Ok Nigel, calm down.

 

[Stanley Road]

Yeah sorry you're right as it was 73 when they joined but I believe it was the 80's when they started to "boom", no?

Boom and bust economics was Thatchers way. A few made a lot of money while others did not, sounds familiar. Then when traders lost all of their money I could only laugh at them as their tears dripped onto their FiloFaxes.

 

[Barca84]

I think that is an important point to make. There is a significant number of people we can label thick, racist or both. The key question is how many non-thick racists voted to leave?

also, I label anyone who votes to make their lives even worse as thick. Let us not get too PC about it. What other words can you use for the poorest regions voting leave so that the only thing keeping them in a job moves to a different country so they can be even poorer? I am sure they will still have some foreigners they can blame for their plight.

What these morons don't and will never realise is that their poverty or perceived hard luck was around well before a brown face ever landed in their country. Fecking idiots.

You're still peddling the same thick and racist narrative here so I think I'll leave it.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

It's people being so gullible to believe the misinformation they are spoonfed by the media which appeals to them in various ways according to their subconscious prejudices.
People are so lazy that they don't check whether what they've heard is true, it's easier to believe what some bloke down the pub said, or the mate at work or the Daily Express or Farage on LBC or Facebook.

Radical suggestion: why not inform oneself of the facts before voting, wouldn't be difficult.

 

[Silva]

Voting to leave isn't racism. It was never racism. Immigration is fine but blindly accepting is madness. The reason being the culture becomes unstable. Cultures do not always respect the divide, one will eventually look to dominate. Didn't people used to go to war to protect their people and fight for their land? Now, it seems the way to infiltrate is put those who would fight in a far away country and then pray on the empathy of those watching the lying news media to let everyone in. We've lots of land and I think we can manage. Those that fear monger don't really seem to have much faith in the resourcefulness of this country but there are many nations and many people that would love to leave the EU. Not because Europe isn't an amazing community, it's the fact those in charge are psychos who we never elected, who don't give a shit about us or our community and who don't even care about refugees...All they are to them, is a means to an end. The issue is ending war....that is the issue. But you get these little dictators with a god complex trying to destroy the cultures of Europe. Brexit would be the best thing that could happen because as a country, we WOULD really have to pull together. In the EU, I don't think you can create that same spirit. People have to put aside their differences and that will not happen under a dictatorship because they will flood this nation and destroy it's culture 10 times over. In addition, Brexit was never about racism. Racism is a political tool used to promote multi culturalism which is promotion and celebration of immigration.

so you're saying we can do this if we pull together, but europe pulling together is impossible, because, uh, why can't we pull together with our european friends again? because from where I'm standing there's more difference between us than tens of millions of Europeans and me.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

I am living in a dictatorship,help!

 

[Maagge]

Radical suggestion: why not inform oneself of the facts before voting, wouldn't be difficult.

That's easier to do if you have some kind of education. Which is also the reason I believe free higher education should be a fundamental part of any democracy.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

The closing sentence is a real doozy. Someone’s been heating that sweet, sweet skunk just a little too hard.

 

[JPRouve]

Voting to leave isn't racism. It was never racism. Immigration is fine but blindly accepting is madness. The reason being the culture becomes unstable. Cultures do not always respect the divide, one will eventually look to dominate. Didn't people used to go to war to protect their people and fight for their land? Now, it seems the way to infiltrate is put those who would fight in a far away country and then pray on the empathy of those watching the lying news media to let everyone in. We've lots of land and I think we can manage. Those that fear monger don't really seem to have much faith in the resourcefulness of this country but there are many nations and many people that would love to leave the EU. Not because Europe isn't an amazing community, it's the fact those in charge are psychos who we never elected, who don't give a shit about us or our community and who don't even care about refugees...All they are to them, is a means to an end. The issue is ending war....that is the issue. But you get these little dictators with a god complex trying to destroy the cultures of Europe. Brexit would be the best thing that could happen because as a country, we WOULD really have to pull together. In the EU, I don't think you can create that same spirit. People have to put aside their differences and that will not happen under a dictatorship because they will flood this nation and destroy it's culture 10 times over. In addition, Brexit was never about racism. Racism is a political tool used to promote multi culturalism which is promotion and celebration of immigration.

You see, that's the disinformation that people believe.

 

[Silva]

At this point we should just split the UK into Five parts, brexiteers have all the shitty counties that voted leave, we'll have London, Oxfordshire all the way down to Brighton. Scotland goes independent. NI can do it's own stuck in the past thing. Manchester and Liverpool can do a yin and yang twin city state thing.

 

[Barca84]

That's easier to do if you have some kind of education. Which is also the reason I believe free higher education should be a fundamental part of any democracy.

Some people who aren't poor think that the poor are just "thick" and lazy. It's always been that way.

 

[Silva]

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[FlawlessThaw]

Voting to leave isn't racism. It was never racism. Immigration is fine but blindly accepting is madness. The reason being the culture becomes unstable. Cultures do not always respect the divide, one will eventually look to dominate. Didn't people used to go to war to protect their people and fight for their land? Now, it seems the way to infiltrate is put those who would fight in a far away country and then pray on the empathy of those watching the lying news media to let everyone in. We've lots of land and I think we can manage. Those that fear monger don't really seem to have much faith in the resourcefulness of this country but there are many nations and many people that would love to leave the EU. Not because Europe isn't an amazing community, it's the fact those in charge are psychos who we never elected, who don't give a shit about us or our community and who don't even care about refugees...All they are to them, is a means to an end. The issue is ending war....that is the issue. But you get these little dictators with a god complex trying to destroy the cultures of Europe. Brexit would be the best thing that could happen because as a country, we WOULD really have to pull together. In the EU, I don't think you can create that same spirit. People have to put aside their differences and that will not happen under a dictatorship because they will flood this nation and destroy it's culture 10 times over. In addition, Brexit was never about racism. Racism is a political tool used to promote multi culturalism which is promotion and celebration of immigration.

You spend a few pages reading about Leave voters not being racist or thick and then this chap comes along.

 

[Silva]

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[Oldyella]

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If that's the case, surely we should start with those working closely with the EU, like say MEPs.

This country is going fecking insane.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Some people who aren't poor think that the poor are just "thick" and lazy. It's always been that way.

These are just your personal prejudices .
There are plenty of rich people who are thick and lazy, the government should give you a clue.

 

[JPRouve]

If that's the case, surely we should start with those working closely with the EU, like say MEPs.

This country is going fecking insane.

It depends, maybe they have been sabotaging the EU from the inside?

 

[Paul the Wolf]

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The other half are committing economic sabotage of the country so that is surely treacherous , there'll be no-one left, more room for immigrants!

 

[Oldyella]

It depends, maybe they have been sabotaging the EU from the inside?

Very possibly the amount of effort they put in for their tasty eu wage.

 

[diarm]

Racism is a political tool used to promote multi culturalism which is promotion and celebration of immigration.

Holy moly!

 

[Barca84]

These are just your personal prejudices .
There are plenty of rich people who are thick and lazy, the government should give you a clue.

Are you actually denying the historic demonisation of the poor in this country as thick and lazy?

 

[C3Pique]

Voting to leave isn't racism. It was never racism. Immigration is fine but blindly accepting is madness. The reason being the culture becomes unstable. Cultures do not always respect the divide, one will eventually look to dominate. Didn't people used to go to war to protect their people and fight for their land? Now, it seems the way to infiltrate is put those who would fight in a far away country and then pray on the empathy of those watching the lying news media to let everyone in. We've lots of land and I think we can manage. Those that fear monger don't really seem to have much faith in the resourcefulness of this country but there are many nations and many people that would love to leave the EU. Not because Europe isn't an amazing community, it's the fact those in charge are psychos who we never elected, who don't give a shit about us or our community and who don't even care about refugees...All they are to them, is a means to an end. The issue is ending war....that is the issue. But you get these little dictators with a god complex trying to destroy the cultures of Europe. Brexit would be the best thing that could happen because as a country, we WOULD really have to pull together. In the EU, I don't think you can create that same spirit. People have to put aside their differences and that will not happen under a dictatorship because they will flood this nation and destroy it's culture 10 times over. In addition, Brexit was never about racism. Racism is a political tool used to promote multi culturalism which is promotion and celebration of immigration.

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[Paul the Wolf]

Are you actually denying the historic demonisation of the poor in this country as thick and lazy?

You don't have to be poor to be thick or lazy and just because you are poor doesn't mean that you are thick or lazy.
There are plenty of poor people who are highly intelligent and hard working.

 

[Massive Spanner]

You have to hand it to him. Opening with the sentence "Voting to leave isn't racism" and then making borderline racist remarks is truly incredible.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

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I reckon you’ll find a lot of the anti-EU sentiments in that blog are also held by the leader of her party.

 

[Barca84]

You don't have to be poor to be thick or lazy and just because you are poor doesn't mean that you are thick or lazy.
There are plenty of poor people who are highly intelligent and hard working.

Correct. Exactly what I was saying. So what's this about my prejudices? I simply pointed out that the poor have always been regarded by some of the better off as being thick and lazy.

We're 90 years on from the abolition of the workhouse as part recognition that poverty is socially determined and not just because people are thick and lazy but you wouldn't think it reading some comments in here. It's the same narrative.

 

[Fingeredmouse]

Voting to leave isn't racism. It was never racism. Immigration is fine but blindly accepting is madness. The reason being the culture becomes unstable. Cultures do not always respect the divide, one will eventually look to dominate. Didn't people used to go to war to protect their people and fight for their land? Now, it seems the way to infiltrate is put those who would fight in a far away country and then pray on the empathy of those watching the lying news media to let everyone in. We've lots of land and I think we can manage. Those that fear monger don't really seem to have much faith in the resourcefulness of this country but there are many nations and many people that would love to leave the EU. Not because Europe isn't an amazing community, it's the fact those in charge are psychos who we never elected, who don't give a shit about us or our community and who don't even care about refugees...All they are to them, is a means to an end. The issue is ending war....that is the issue. But you get these little dictators with a god complex trying to destroy the cultures of Europe. Brexit would be the best thing that could happen because as a country, we WOULD really have to pull together. In the EU, I don't think you can create that same spirit. People have to put aside their differences and that will not happen under a dictatorship because they will flood this nation and destroy it's culture 10 times over. In addition, Brexit was never about racism. Racism is a political tool used to promote multi culturalism which is promotion and celebration of immigration.

I have no interest in pulling together with someone like you or your ilk. I do not belong in your culture.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Correct. Exactly what I was saying. So what's this about my prejudices? I simply pointed out that the poor have always been regarded by some of the better off as being thick and lazy.

We're 90 years on from the abolition of the workhouse as part recognition that poverty is socially determined and not just because people are thick and lazy but you wouldn't think it reading some comments in here. It's the same narrative.

The way you phrased it seemed like only the rich thought that, people without money also think that.
I know plenty of people who have a lot of money, who are highly qualified, educated but have no common sense at all and could be classed as thick.

My problem with the whole Brexit issue is that a lot of people voted not because of what they knew but what they were told by people with malicious intent or what they thought they knew. You don't have to be highly educated to understand or find out about basic facts or realise people are lying to you.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

You're still peddling the same thick and racist narrative here so I think I'll leave it.

You are having an issue understanding what I am saying. You see what you want to see.

 

[Silva]

I reckon you’ll find a lot of the anti-EU sentiments in that blog are also held by the leader of her party.

They've voted differently on Brexit legislation

 

[Pogue Mahone]

They've voted differently on Brexit legislation

Well, obviously. If Corbyn had made his anti-EU agenda as blatant as she has, then it really would be game over for him as the Labour party leader.

 

[Maagge]

My problem with the whole Brexit issue is that a lot of people voted not because of what they knew but what they were told by people with malicious intent or what they thought they knew. You don't have to be highly educated to understand or find out about basic facts or realise people are lying to you.

No you obviously don't have to be highly educated in order to figure stuff out. But I think the chance you will want to investigate whether or not you're being lied to is higher if you're educated (most importantly you've actually been taught how to see through all the guff). And when you're dealing with millions of people increasing that probability slightly could move loads of votes.

 

[Charlie Foley]

It's people being so gullible to believe the misinformation they are spoonfed by the media which appeals to them in various ways according to their subconscious prejudices.
People are so lazy that they don't check whether what they've heard is true, it's easier to believe what some bloke down the pub said, or the mate at work or the Daily Express or Farage on LBC or Facebook.

Radical suggestion: why not inform oneself of the facts before voting, wouldn't be difficult.

Sadly that involves being aware of one's own ignorance, which too many are too ignorant to realise. There are also people who seem proud to reject expert opinion or facts.

 

[Tarrou]

Voting to leave isn't racism. It was never racism. Immigration is fine but blindly accepting is madness. The reason being the culture becomes unstable. Cultures do not always respect the divide, one will eventually look to dominate. Didn't people used to go to war to protect their people and fight for their land? Now, it seems the way to infiltrate is put those who would fight in a far away country and then pray on the empathy of those watching the lying news media to let everyone in. We've lots of land and I think we can manage. Those that fear monger don't really seem to have much faith in the resourcefulness of this country but there are many nations and many people that would love to leave the EU. Not because Europe isn't an amazing community, it's the fact those in charge are psychos who we never elected, who don't give a shit about us or our community and who don't even care about refugees...All they are to them, is a means to an end. The issue is ending war....that is the issue. But you get these little dictators with a god complex trying to destroy the cultures of Europe. Brexit would be the best thing that could happen because as a country, we WOULD really have to pull together. In the EU, I don't think you can create that same spirit. People have to put aside their differences and that will not happen under a dictatorship because they will flood this nation and destroy it's culture 10 times over. In addition, Brexit was never about racism. Racism is a political tool used to promote multi culturalism which is promotion and celebration of immigration.

what does this mean?

 

[Barca84]

You are having an issue understanding what I am saying. You see what you want to see.

Nope I'm just not willing to engage with people who are arrogant enough to brand a whole demographic as thick morons. Cheers.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

The other half are committing economic sabotage of the country so that is surely treacherous , there'll be no-one left, more room for immigrants!