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Isn't it a consensus vote and this is just typical political grandstanding?
May needs Ian Paisley Jr with his delicate diplomacy on the case pronto.
"Theresa! Tell them where they can take their sombrero, straw donkey and sangria..."
Nice strawman dude. Noone can argue that for-profit railway operation has failed.
On a practical note, any posters who travel to Europe with dogs or cats may need to speak to their vet ASAP. Mine has told me today that she thinks a serological certificate will be needed, in addition to the rabies jab your pet will have already had if you're a traveller. I'm going to get our two dogs tested in a week or so - it's only a blood test, but it'll cost £125 per animal.
Of course, in reality it's absolutely unnecessary for regularly-travelling animals that are already in the Pet Passport system (they already have all the checks carried out that they need, and more), but this is how it's going to be for all sorts of things, I assume.
Of course, in reality it's absolutely unnecessary for regularly-travelling animals that are already in the Pet Passport system (they already have all the checks carried out that they need, and more), but this is how it's going to be for all sorts of things, I assume.
I seem to be lost can someone point me towards the Brexit thread?
feck me, 35% on the first £5k! No tax-free allowance at all and 83% on amounts over £20k
British Rail was a national laughing stock, public transport in t his country has always been a joke.
No wonder Brexit is a shambles, you can't even stay on topic in a thread ffs
But they did mostly run on time and prices were cheap. Tell me what's better about the services now?
You do realise this was as a result of a recession don't you? I don't know why people decide to blame a specific political party, any government in power would have needed to make cuts. Maybe in your opinion the cuts have gone on for too long but this country is in every increasing debt, it's not sustainable.
And before you ask I have never voted Tory.
Every country will have people in poor situations but we have substantially less people in that position compared to say Eastern Europe. The Brexit debate came about because a large volume of people were frustrated with the EU for varying reasons. To simply say these people are stupid for voting a different way to you is ridiculous. I'm sure the vast majority of people who voted out were not expecting it to be so difficult to leave and that the deal on the table is nothing like what they voted for. The deal should be scrapped, keep membership as it is for now and see how things go in the future in my opinion.
It was cheap when you were a kid, you only paid half fare!
No they wouldn't. Cuts are an awful way to respond to recession, that's the time you're supposed to invest to kickstart the economy. If you're going to cut you should be doing it when the economy is roaring.
Not true, for many years I got an annual season ticket from the south coast to London. It was about 1,400 quid which was a lot, but i hear they are way more now and the service is worse.
Why is it that whenever a nationized service is shit, that's apparently proof that nationalisation is doomed to failure always, but a long series of private companies can feck up that same service, and apparently that doesn't prove anything?
Even accounting for inflation for the incomes it’s insane.feck me, 35% on the first £5k! No tax-free allowance at all and 83% on amounts over £20k
In my head, 50% total deductions seems an arbitrarily fair amount for higher incomes. Half of everything you earn.
My biggest gripe is being taxed again on taxed income through VAT, stamp duty, fuel duty, council tax etc.
Why waste billions in public money when evidence tells you they can't do it any better?
That's the point.
Assuming quality of service is equal then surely the fact it would be much cheaper for the public is arguably the bigger point here?
Because some things can't be done for profit but are needed by society. That's a big point of government.
Which evidence? Last time a rail service was taken over by the government, they made it profitable did they not? But no, we have to focus instead on the feckups of governments from decades ago and ignore the repeated failures of private companies since, despite the fact those private companies have cost billions in public money from the government having to repeatedly bail them out.
And then taxed again when you die.
"My way or no deal, and if that happens you;re all screwed"
The real project fear.
The real project fear.
This is so sad. We are a narrow minded nation.
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Goddam commies man
EU workers in the UK need to collectively go on strike right now and stay on strike until they're all given guarantees of remaining if they want any chance of being treated like humans post brexit.
Or they could just return to their home countries, leaving millions of vacancies that can not possibly be filled unless we invite immigration, particularly from Europe.
case in point
Compared to the farce currently unfolding that would be the sensible thing to do, which obviously guarantees it won't be done.
Looking at and comparing arbitrary taxation rates isn't of much value without considering standard of living overall. It's the standard of living the post-tax income affords you that matters.
Also i doubt for instance those commuting on the trains daily would mind if taxation went up if it meant lower ticket prices and they profited overall. It's when they don't see the gained value that's the issue i.e. they have a price on helping out the poor and it's very very low
Also i doubt for instance those commuting on the trains daily would mind if taxation went up if it meant lower ticket prices and they profited overall. It's when they don't see the gained value that's the issue i.e. they have a price on helping out the poor and it's very very low
I can’t believe someone actually thinks operating anything inefficiently is to the benefit of anyone.
And government run railway as it was decades ago was not a complete and utter failure?
Take a look at Japan as an example, it’s become far more profitable and efficient since the monopoly was broken up. They can even afford a 5.1 trillion yen investment in the Chuo Shinkansen
Alternatively invite immigration from the US? There may be enough people fed up with Trump...
The logic is pretty easy to understand, but I will spell it out for you as you seem simple minded.
An inefficiently run rail network is cheaper for the public than an efficient but privately run network + profits + subsidies.
Yeh, I don't think we want too many Yanks here
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I don’t disagree with it being meaningless in isolation, apart from a principle thing. Paying >half of your income is always going to grate, regardless of cost of living.
If that's true, it's only because the government is subsidizing the inefficient network.
Whilst in the other scenario, they're not doing enough to limit the profit the more efficient operator is making by either introducing more competition.
Fair pointYeh, I don't think we want too many Yanks here
No. Being a researcher is much more fun, and easier than managing people.