Jadon Sancho | First player in Bundesliga history to score 25 goals before his 20th birthday

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He's sensational but I'm now just awaiting the day Real or Barca declare their interest and we're out of it.

Imo Greenwood is equally talented but i regard them as the two best youngsters in world football, that I've seen. Why not have both? They'll both be better than any attacker we have in the first team right now.
 

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He's sensational but I'm now just awaiting the day Real or Barca declare their interest and we're out of it.
Real and Barca don't really have the draw in England they do elsewhere across the continent, most English kids grow up dreaming about playing for the biggest English clubs. So maybe that could work in our favour.
 

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He's sensational but I'm now just awaiting the day Real or Barca declare their interest and we're out of it.

Imo Greenwood is equally talented but i regard them as the two best youngsters in world football, that I've seen. Why not have both? They'll both be better than any attacker we have in the first team right now.
If Greenwood is as good as you say why isn’t he anywhere near our first team? Genuine question I’ve not seen him play. I don’t see how he could be equated to Sancho though.
 

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I'm fully convinced now. He's the 'Rooney' if the current English generation. Like we did all those years ago, we should do whatever it takes to get him here and it will end up a bargain. We are also one of the only top teams that has a bad need of a player in that exact position. We can offer him first team football straight away. We can also offer him the likely hood that Gomes and Greenwood will come through in the same team once their development continues. Even if it takes a deal while loaning him back for one year then get it done.

Edit: as for Barca and Madrid, this may be the only time we are more attractive than them (ala Rooney). We have an open route right now to the first team and can offer him a way to challenge for trophies in his home country.
 

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We need to be all over it this summer, big money, big wages, just be absolutely gagging for his signature, beg him.
I agree, make him and his agent a offer they cannot refuse. He is perfect for our right side, we havent had a proper RW/RF in years.

If we offload Lukaku and Sanchez we can afford the best RW and CB money can buy.
 

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He's sensational but I'm now just awaiting the day Real or Barca declare their interest and we're out of it.

Imo Greenwood is equally talented but i regard them as the two best youngsters in world football, that I've seen. Why not have both? They'll both be better than any attacker we have in the first team right now.
What year are you in? There’s nothing at all to suggest he’d rather go to Spain than join us.

And way too early to say Greenwood is as good, but I share your optimism, he’s clearly special.
 

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I agree, make him and his agent a offer they cannot refuse. He is perfect for our right side, we havent had a proper RW/RF in years.

If we offload Lukaku and Sanchez we can afford the best RW and CB money can buy.
If we keep them and offload all our other rubbish we can still easily afford him. No need to lose them when we have at least 6 others that can leave first. Go all out for him while still keeping the squad a strong one. Then when hopefully Chong, Greenwood and Gomes come through get rid of the likes of Sanchez and Lukaku.
 

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If Greenwood is as good as you say why isn’t he anywhere near our first team? Genuine question I’ve not seen him play. I don’t see how he could be equated to Sancho though.
He's only just turned 17, hasn't played much with our u23 squad and he's still not quite ready physically, Iorfa got the better of him when we played Wolves and he's as close to a senior CB that he's played against. He'll probably make his debut before the end of the season, supposedly he was in contention for Reading but he was injured.
 

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Sancho will be the first time since Hazard was on the market and he had his pick. It was a decision that would shape things for a while, and Chelsea have won what, 3 titles since he came.

Sancho reminds me a lot of a young Hazard. When he’s stronger in 2 or 3 years he’ll be unstoppable.
 

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Sancho will be the first time since Hazard was on the market and he had his pick. It was a decision that would shape things for a while, and Chelsea have won what, 3 titles since he came.

Sancho reminds me a lot of a young Hazard. When he’s stronger in 2 or 3 years he’ll be unstoppable.
We let Hazard slip through our fingers because SAF didnt want to pay his agent the 6m agent fee he demanded. I hope the board sanctions an offer than he and his agent will find very difficult to refuse. We can do it if we want to
 

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Real and Barca don't really have the draw in England they do elsewhere across the continent, most English kids grow up dreaming about playing for the biggest English clubs. So maybe that could work in our favour.
I think his Dortmund move shows England is not the be all and end all for this kid. Think he’s got Madrid all over him. They’ve tried to sign him before and will do again when the inevitable auction begins. Genuine star quality that Madrid crave. Reckon he’ll move after Euro 2020. IF he rips that up, to the Bernabeu he goes.
 

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Love watching Sancho. He’s got this dribbling and passing style which is unique and constantly deceives opponents. The pass or his touch just comes that split second before you’d expect it so opponent is repeatedly caught out.
 

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I'd be happy for him to sign and start now. We have no RW and he's an upgrade on Rashford and Mata in the wild position.
 

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I think his Dortmund move shows England is not the be all and end all for this kid. Think he’s got Madrid all over him. They’ve tried to sign him before and will do again when the inevitable auction begins. Genuine star quality that Madrid crave. Reckon he’ll move after Euro 2020. IF he rips that up, to the Bernabeu he goes.
I don't think moving out of England to further his career is anything to read into, he just knows Dortmund will give him game time and allow him to leave without much fuss. I'm more than willing to bet that he'll end up back in England, not Spain.
 

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If Greenwood is as good as you say why isn’t he anywhere near our first team? Genuine question I’ve not seen him play. I don’t see how he could be equated to Sancho though.
Talent wise I'd say he is. He should be near the first team soon because he's far too good to hold back. I remember seeing Sancho in England youth games and you just knew he was something else. I couldn't believe it when City were letting him go.
 

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We're in dire need of a right winger, it makes perfect sense. Him, Rashford and Martial in the same attack has the potential to be the future best in the world. Serious questions will be asked if we don't sign him this summer.
 

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What year are you in? There’s nothing at all to suggest he’d rather go to Spain than join us.

And way too early to say Greenwood is as good, but I share your optimism, he’s clearly special.
I'm basing it on the fact that he left City to play in Germany. Obviously he got fast tracked to the first team fairly quick, but he's obviously not bothered about playing abroad. Hence why he may see them as more desirable.

If I'm being honest, I'm not sure we'd be in his top two options of PL moves right now unless he has some affinity to us that i don't know about.
 

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I think Madrid is currently the most likely destination for him. None of City, Liverpool, PSG or Chelsea have a huge need for him right now with their options.

Barca have Dembele. So there's really us and Madrid that can offer him first team football. Madrid sadly have us beat on prestige currently so the only way we compete is by offering him and Borussia huge sums when the bidding starts for him.
 

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If I'm being honest, I'm not sure we'd be in his top two options of PL moves right now unless he has some affinity to us that i don't know about.
I don't see why not. He'd be going to the biggest club in the country, on massive wages, with international teammates alongside him and a (practically) guaranteed first team place.

That's a very desirable option.
 

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He's sensational but I'm now just awaiting the day Real or Barca declare their interest and we're out of it.

Imo Greenwood is equally talented but i regard them as the two best youngsters in world football, that I've seen. Why not have both? They'll both be better than any attacker we have in the first team right now.
We should absolutely go all out for Sancho. No matter what it takes. Guaranteed world class player right there.
 

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I think Madrid is currently the most likely destination for him. None of City, Liverpool, PSG or Chelsea have a huge need for him right now with their options.

Barca have Dembele. So there's really us and Madrid that can offer him first team football. Madrid sadly have us beat on prestige currently so the only way we compete is by offering him and Borussia huge sums when the bidding starts for him.
Madrid will have Hazard and Bale so I'm not sure they would be able to afford Sancho next summer. I think it would be perfect time for United to go in for him. We won't get another free run basically.
 

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If we signed him I’d do a poo. Insanely talented, but I fear we’d be told to feck off.
 

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Didn't he hate Manchester? Pretty sure Madrid or London will be his next destination.
 

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Didn't he hate Manchester? Pretty sure Madrid or London will be his next destination.
Manchester is 2 hours and some change away from London, it isn't exactly a different galaxy, he said he left City in search of first team football, and that he's gotten over being away from home because he has been away from home since year 7 in school. I don't think there's any foundation to "he hates manchester"
 

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And there we have it :lol:

Hopefully you're mistaken but that's put a nail in it already if you're right.
Can't remember where I read it, but it was something along the lines of, he was homesick (only moved to Manchester form London for 2 years) and wanted to go back to London, City obviously wouldn't sell him to an English club so he moved to Dortmund knowing they'd give him his chance. Was even said to have left Manchester for London when and refused to go back during the "saga".

Hopefully as he grows up and experienced living further from London he won't want to be in London that badly anymore?
 

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Manchester is 2 hours and some change away from London, it isn't exactly a different galaxy, he said he left City in search of first team football, and that he's gotten over being away from home because he has been away from home since year 7 in school. I don't think there's any foundation to "he hates manchester"
To be fair that's just generic footballer lingo, maybe hate was a strong word, but I'm sure I read he missed London.

I could obviously be wrong and for some reason that's in my head? :lol:
 

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Can't think of a more perfect player to fill a gaping hole in our team.
 

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I'm fully convinced now. He's the 'Rooney' if the current English generation. Like we did all those years ago, we should do whatever it takes to get him here and it will end up a bargain. We are also one of the only top teams that has a bad need of a player in that exact position. We can offer him first team football straight away. We can also offer him the likely hood that Gomes and Greenwood will come through in the same team once their development continues. Even if it takes a deal while loaning him back for one year then get it done.

Edit: as for Barca and Madrid, this may be the only time we are more attractive than them (ala Rooney). We have an open route right now to the first team and can offer him a way to challenge for trophies in his home country.
Let's be honest, this kid is looking like the next world class talent, the type that any club with the funds to afford him will be after. He will have his choice of clubs and it's going to come down to what his preferences are.

Barcelona's wage struggles rule them out currently, but he is literally the perfect foil for their right wing once Messi moves infield permanently in the next few years, either via Saurez's physical decline or his own. Sancho can also play both flanks, so between him and Dembele, it could sort them out for the next decade.

Real Madrid are in need of a new injection of class to bolster them. They do things in bunches, so Hazard and him in in the same summer is not unfeasible, and again, Sancho's ability to play both flanks is just a dream for them. They'll offload Bale to some sucker (hopefully not us) to fund the purchase, if possible, but either way, they have every reason to go in for him.

Bayern have two aging wingers and are renowned for lifting talent from Dortmund. Sancho knows the country and the league; there's no reason not to think they'll be in for him whether they land Odoi or not.

Cavani is already in his 30's; Mbappe is supposed to become a central striker and Neymar himself will try to wriggle out of that club as soon as he can. I don't see why PSG wouldn't try for him.

There's only us and Chelsea who could afford him in England as he won't go back to City.

The scramble for him will be epic and the challenge for all clubs is putting up a superior package to him and Dortmund that gazumps the other interested parties. He was talked about as a £100m player some months ago now, but he's getting better and better and it won't be long before you can add some £10m's to that evaluation once the bidding wars begin, unless the kid declares interest in one club and one club alone.

For me personally, I wouldn't rule out the mystique and pulling power of the Messi effect, plus the fact they can point to the fact they are signing youngsters of his calibre whenever possible: Dembele and De Jong with him added to it to play in the same team as Messi. It's an enticing prospect for this upcoming generation of kids. Their financial woes are the saving grace, I think, but we've seen them magic up funds before and for Sancho, I could see them doing so again.

We have appeal, but nothing like what we used to. Woodward would really have to do something special to get the kid here. I think he should be our number one target in the summer, personally with De Ligt not far behind. Securing a player like this is actually more important than addressing some of the other issues in our side unless we can get equivalent talent to Sancho to do so.

Wherever he opts for, he's going to make an absolute fortune, so money alone is not going to get him.
 

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Madrid will have Hazard and Bale so I'm not sure they would be able to afford Sancho next summer. I think it would be perfect time for United to go in for him. We won't get another free run basically.
This is a good point. I was thinking we should get him in 2020 summer because I have a feeling he would want another year to develop in Dortmund. However, United's best hope of convincing him is probably this summer. The right side of our team is such a problem that I'm sure United will spend some money on there this season. So if the strategy was to buy him in 2020, that 2019 signing would ultimately be a player that Sancho would have to compete with which would give him some doubt about his future at United starting from 2020. If United try and go for him this summer, there is little need to convince him he'll be the guaranteed starter as United are desperate to shore up that side.

Plus, Real Madrid are after Hazard. Buying both Hazard and Sancho just isn't feasible. Both would command huge fees. Liverpool can't guarantee him playing time. Neither can City. Chelsea is probably the biggest obstacle seeing as it's possible they lose Hudson Odoi and Hazard. Though they are gaining Pulisic.

So yeah, it makes the most sense to go for him this summer now.
 

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Real Madrid are in need of a new injection of class to bolster them. They do things in bunches, so Hazard and him in in the same summer is not unfeasible, and again, Sancho's ability to play both flanks is just a dream for them. They'll offload Bale to some sucker (hopefully not us) to fund the purchase, if possible, but either way, they have every reason to go in for him.
Didn't they just sign city youngster diaz as well and already have the likes of Asensio and Vinicius junior in their ranks?

They have plenty of youth already. I think hazard has his mind hell bent on Madrid and there is more probability of him going there than this kid.
 

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To be fair that's just generic footballer lingo, maybe hate was a strong word, but I'm sure I read he missed London.

I could obviously be wrong and for some reason that's in my head? :lol:
with him saying that he's pretty much gotten over being away from home because he's been away from home since year 7 in school, I very much doubt he'd be "homesick", at least not to a point of refusing a move, especially when, like I said, Manchester is only 2 and a half hours away from London. I'm sure he missed family and friends, but its not a big deal, I mean, the guy went to Germany for his chance.

I think the "misses London" thing is/was much like the "signing for Spurs" thing. Just a bunch of fans playing ITK and posting baseless stuff on forums. Wouldn't be surprised if it started with City fans trying to justify him not wanting to stay.
 

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Let break the bank for him and De Ligt, we desperately need a CB and a RW, they seem like the real deal and are really young. We can have those positions fixed for the next 10 years.

Enough of signing medium players, lets sign the greatest young available.
 

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Can't think of a more perfect player to fill a gaping hole in our team.
He will slot right in and his smooth movement will provide just the right amount of penetration needed. We lack that special someone who can push his way into a dangerous area and make that backline shiver. I can just picture him in a United-jersey keeping the width before making his way all the way down the channels in from behind to make the final shot. Perfect for United who sometimes are struggling with full completion coming up against lower bottom teams.
 

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He will slot right in and his smooth movement will provide just the right amount of penetration needed. We lack that special someone who can push his way into a dangerous area and make that backline shiver. I can just picture him in a United-jersey keeping the width before making his way all the way down the channels in from behind to make the final shot. Perfect for United who sometimes are struggling with full completion coming up against lower bottom teams.
Yeah, he's absolutely perfect IMO. He'll also give us real width whereas the likes of Martial, Rashford, Sanchez and Lingard prefer to be in more central areas.
 

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Let break the bank for him and De Ligt, we desperately need a CB and a RW, they seem like the real deal and are really young. We can have those positions fixed for the next 10 years.

Enough of signing medium players, lets sign the greatest young available.
Those two signings makes too much sense. The odds of that happening is slim to none but even if the 2019 summer window ended up in us getting just the two of them it would still be seen as one of our best transfer windows of all time. The problem is that both of them are going to have the choice to go anywhere and as we all know Spain is a very lucrative destination for these young lads.