ICC Cricket World Cup 2019

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Don't see anyone but England winning this.. Think we will be fatigued post IPL and will bow out early..

Dhoni will tonk everyone for Chennai and then flop massively for us..
 

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Australia hitting form right before a World Cup shock horror.
Heck of a team with Smith and Warner to slot in.

Finch
Warner
Khawaja
Smith
Handscomb (wk)
Maxwell
Stoinis
Starc
Cummins
Lyon/J Richardson
Zampa

Or something to that effect I would imagine.
 

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Heck of a team with Smith and Warner to slot in.

Finch
Warner
Khawaja
Smith
Handscomb (wk)
Maxwell
Stoinis
Starc
Cummins
Lyon/J Richardson
Zampa

Or something to that effect I would imagine.
Cummins+Starc :drool: Hazlewood won't be ready?
 

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Australia hitting form right before a World Cup shock horror.
On current form, they have to be the favorites.


On a related topic - will the IPL hinder any of the big teams? I'm pretty certain the Indian team will be fatigued but it also provides a good carefree batting practice for the likes of Smith and Warner.
 

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Australia WC Kit released:





Other than that weird funnel shape below the collar, that looks lovely.
 

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Australia WC Kit released:





Other than that weird funnel shape below the collar, that looks lovely.
Looks horrid. Like a third rate Norwich City kit.
 

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Flat wickets and it'll be England/Australia.

If the wickets aren't flat, then the above two will struggle and can see India being favourites.

The great thing about this WC is the uprising of West Indies and Pakistan being stronger than I've seen them for a while. The former might not be a contender for the final few places but they'll be exciting to watch. No idea which players will be going but the likes of Pollard, Narine and Russell are a must.
 

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Flat wickets and it'll be England/Australia.

If the wickets aren't flat, then the above two will struggle and can see India being favourites.

The great thing about this WC is the uprising of West Indies and Pakistan being stronger than I've seen them for a while. The former might not be a contender for the final few places but they'll be exciting to watch. No idea which players will be going but the likes of Pollard, Narine and Russell are a must.
Pollard and Narine are almost certain not to go. Russell might.

Windies anyway dont need Pollard. They've better players in Holder and Braithwate.
 

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Flat wickets and it'll be England/Australia.

If the wickets aren't flat, then the above two will struggle and can see India being favourites.

The great thing about this WC is the uprising of West Indies and Pakistan being stronger than I've seen them for a while. The former might not be a contender for the final few places but they'll be exciting to watch. No idea which players will be going but the likes of Pollard, Narine and Russell are a must.
:lol:
 

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Pollard and Narine are almost certain not to go. Russell might.

Windies anyway dont need Pollard. They've better players in Holder and Braithwate.
Nah, Pollard is still great. For someone who's batted as low as 5 or 6 in the IPL, he stats are awesome. It's a shame, to be honest, so much talent that could make them a feared team.
 

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Think mjj doesn't rate pakistani team as highly as you do.
Maybe my point was misunderstood. I'm not rating them highly. They're a good "filler" side who'll make the tournament interesting. They're, by no means, favourites to reach the semis.
 

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Nah, Pollard is still great. For someone who's batted as low as 5 or 6 in the IPL, he stats are awesome. It's a shame, to be honest, so much talent that could make them a feared team.
He doesn't get into the Windies side ahead of Carlos and Holder that's my point. He's useless as a bowler and very inconsistent as a batsman.
 

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Windies XI looks excellent to be honest. Just lacking a proper spinner.

Gayle
Campbell/Lewis
Darren Bravo
Hope
Hetmyer
Holder
Russell
Braithwaite
Nurse
Oshane Thomas/Joseph
Alzarri Joseph

Is a very, very strong XI
 

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He doesn't get into the Windies side ahead of Carlos and Holder that's my point. He's useless as a bowler and very inconsistent as a batsman.
They could go: Gayle; Narine; Lewis; Hope; Hetmyer; Holder; Russell; Pollard; Brathwaite; Roach; Thomas.

That's a powerhouse team.
 

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Windies XI looks excellent to be honest. Just lacking a proper spinner.

Gayle
Campbell/Lewis
Darren Bravo
Hope
Hetmyer
Holder
Russell
Braithwaite
Nurse
Oshane Thomas/Joseph
Alzarri Joseph

Is a very, very strong XI
Maybe @Cloud7 could have some input but it's laughable that Darren Bravo is being selected in the ODIs.
 

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They could go: Gayle; Narine; Lewis; Hope; Hetmyer; Holder; Russell; Pollard; Brathwaite; Roach; Thomas.

That's a powerhouse team.
That's an overload of hitters. That's a good t20 team but in 50 overs you need players to consolidate. That's why they need Hope and Bravo in the middle!
 

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That's an overload of hitters. That's a good t20 team but in 50 overs you need players to consolidate. That's why they need Hope and Bravo in the middle!
Hope, Hetmyer and Holder provide enough stability. Gayle's no mug as well. Besides, that's a team that could get bowled in 30 overs and still post a respectable total.
 

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Hope, Hetmyer and Holder provide enough stability. Gayle's no mug as well. Besides, that's a team that could get bowled in 30 overs and still post a respectable total.
For that they're going to score 9 runs an over. Ffs.
 

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For that they're going to score 9 runs an over. Ffs.
Look at what England are doing. They've pack their team with power hitters. The second it gets the difficult, watch them fold like a pack of cards.
 

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Nah, Pollard is still great. For someone who's batted as low as 5 or 6 in the IPL, he stats are awesome. It's a shame, to be honest, so much talent that could make them a feared team.
I'm not sure Pollard has ever been great, let alone still great, in the ODI format.

He might have been one of the better T20 sloggers around (although even then I think he was just the first), but there's players that do what he can do better in that format. In ODIs his bowling is rubbish, so he's being picked primarily for his batting, and Hetmayer has more ODI centuries than Pollard after 25 matches.
 

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Maybe @Cloud7 could have some input but it's laughable that Darren Bravo is being selected in the ODIs.
Honestly, I think we need him. He’s wildly inconsistent, so there’s every chance that he fails in every match, but an in form and properly focused Darren Bravo is probably our best batsman (Gayle storm aside). I agree that we need someone to be able to provide a bit of stability to the top and middle order. Holder can do it but he comes in too late. Hope is still inconsistent. Hetmeyer, while supremely talented, is the absolute opposite of stability.

We do lack a proper spinner, as I don’t think Sunil trusts his action enough to bowl for ten overs, and to be honest his bowling hasn’t been that good for quite a while now. Even in our regional T20 (CPL) he’s not among the best bowlers anymore, never mind at a World Cup level.

The team in the post you quoted is probably the one I would go with as well. I don’t rate Ashley Nurse at all, but I really don’t know who’s in the fold to potentially replace him. Don’t think there’s much time to blood new players in either. From Holder’s comments it seems that the team we played for the England series is the team we’re taking to the World Cup, hopefully with the addition of Russell. It would be insane for the selectors to ignore what he’s doing in the IPL right now. He simply has to go to England.

Edit: For what it’s worth, I really really don’t rate Braithwaite either. For me the only good thing he’s ever done in a West Indies jersey is that over against Stokes, but the selectors absolutely adore him so I won’t even entertain any ideas of him being dropped.
 
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Here you go:

Fakhar - 96
Babar - 85
Imad - 105
Haris - 82
Imam - 80
Do you see the problem yet? Our middle order basically is full of players who hold up an end and none of them can accelerate properly. We are hugely reliant on fakhar to give us a good start and imad to hit a few near the end.
 

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I'm not sure Pollard has ever been great, let alone still great, in the ODI format.

He might have been one of the better T20 sloggers around (although even then I think he was just the first), but there's players that do what he can do better in that format. In ODIs his bowling is rubbish, so he's being picked primarily for his batting, and Hetmayer has more ODI centuries than Pollard after 25 matches.
In terms of great, I was exclusively referring to him in the IPL where he's been extremely useful for MI. For someone who bats at number 6 or 7 (ODIs), he still has a lot to offer.
 

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Do you see the problem yet? Our middle order basically is full of players who hold up an end and none of them can accelerate properly. We are hugely reliant on fakhar to give us a good start and imad to hit a few near the end.
Apart from England, you'll find it difficult to identify another team with obsurdly high strike rates. For instance, off the top of my head, the India players go something like this:

Dhawan - 90
Rohit - 88
Kohli - 87
Dhoni - 88
Jhadav - 100+

Edit:

You've got to balance averages with strike rates. All those batsmen I named average 48+, if I'm not mistaken. How many batsmen in the history of cricket average 50 and had a strike rate of 90+? Im gonna guess that AB is the only ever.
 

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Babar apart Pakistan's batting is absolutely shambolic. Literally no six hitting ability at all in the team. They're still playing dinosaur cricket. They'll be heavily reliant on the seamers as usual.

SA, NZ, Pak and Win are fighting for one spot. Think Windies will fall short as they are a hit and miss team. Will beat one of the big boys one game and lose to minnows the next. SA chokers but maybe a last hurrah for their golden generation will see them through to the semis?
 

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Honestly, I think we need him. He’s wildly inconsistent, so there’s every chance that he fails in every match, but an in form and properly focused Darren Bravo is probably our best batsman (Gayle storm aside). I agree that we need someone to be able to provide a bit of stability to the top and middle order. Holder can do it but he comes in too late. Hope is still inconsistent. Hetmeyer, while supremely talented, is the absolute opposite of stability.

We do lack a proper spinner, as I don’t think Sunil trusts his action enough to bowl for ten overs, and to be honest his bowling hasn’t been that good for quite a while now. Even in our regional T20 (CPL) he’s not among the best bowlers anymore, never mind at a World Cup level.

The team in the post you quoted is probably the one I would go with as well. I don’t rate Ashley Nurse at all, but I really don’t know who’s in the fold to potentially replace him. Don’t think there’s much time to blood new players in either. From Holder’s comments it seems that the team we played for the England series is the team we’re taking to the World Cup, hopefully with the addition of Russell. It would be insane for the selectors to ignore what he’s doing in the IPL right now. He simply has to go to England.

Edit: For what it’s worth, I really really don’t rate Braithwaite either. For me the only good thing he’s ever done in a West Indies jersey is that over against Stokes, but the selectors absolutely adore him so I won’t even entertain any ideas of him being dropped.
I had a discussion with a friend about Narine and he felt that generally batsmen have decided to play it safe against Sunil and play out his 4 overs for very little. The little man is a beast though; last 3 seasons, his strike rates have been 170+ and he managed 350 runs last season. Best ever to play in the IPL.