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Wish a proper, sensible, intelligent person would come home to Washington and lead the nation. But oh well.It's coming home! It's coming home! It's coming! Soccer's coming home!
Wish a proper, sensible, intelligent person would come home to Washington and lead the nation. But oh well.It's coming home! It's coming home! It's coming! Soccer's coming home!
Nah I've checked and can confirm your men's team still play Altidore and are therefore absolute and utter horseshite at football.Oh so you're just going to bring up ancient history? These are different times man.
I do feel in 10 years they’ll be much better. Participation is going through the roof and the infrastructure is growing all the time.England going ou in a SF to giant machine team after inches offside call and missing penalty. It’s just switching USA for Germany. Still, England has made a very good tournament, going so far, beating Japan and Norway 5-0, and being fairly close against the big favourites. You should definitely be proud of the development of English football the last decade!
100% This. They love winning like no one else and Sport they choose to care about they would probably dominate in.Let's be real USA don't take football seriously. You see a glimmer of how good they could be through their women's team.
Hypothetically, If they took it as seriously as the rest of the world does, I think they would be one of the top nations for sure. They're a sport mad country & love winning. Also their organisational detail is second to none. You have to give them that.
Would back Ireland to beat the U.S, to be honest. When did they pass them, exactly? You're on a pretty similar level as teams go.USA already passed Ireland mate. That much is obvious. I forgot Ireland had team. MLS has been better then whatever pub league you guys have for the last 15 years and thats not counting International football where you guys have been passed already,
cry more.
Yeah definitely. In terms of club football, we're massively behind USA, but we are pushing the standards up and that will eventually translate with the England team.I do feel in 10 years they’ll be much better. Participation is going through the roof and the infrastructure is growing all the time.
Their 2002 team was superb. Friedel in goal, quite a tight and athletic back line and young guns like Dempsey and Donovan upfront having breakthrough tournaments. That game against Germany they should never have lost with Lahm penalty not given and other misses so that's their what if historical game like a few of the England ones. Would've been a semi final v South Korea aswell which would've been winnable.Let's be real USA don't take soccer seriously. Hypothetically, If they took it as seriously as the rest of the world does, I think they would be one of the top nations for sure. They're a sport mad country & love winning. Also their organisational detail is second to none. You have to give them that.
People have been saying this for 20 years now and the best US team - by far - remains the 2002 world cup squad.I do feel in 10 years they’ll be much better. Participation is going through the roof and the infrastructure is growing all the time.
Just don’t. Let the sleeping dogs lie because they’ve stayed out of this, mate.Would back Ireland to beat the U.S, to be honest. When did they pass them, exactly? You're on a pretty similar level as teams go.
Congratulations on having a better league though, you know with all the money that exists within Irish football.
I mean I was literally responding to a post bemoaning the complete lack of discussion about the men's team when you were in disarray and in need of a new manager but go off I guess.Of course not, fits a narrative for you.
Meanwhile, fellow Americans and non-Americans took the team, management, and federation to task over the shit show in at least one thread in this forum, and have in the months since.
Failure to qualify for a tournament that happened 1 year ago - ancient historyOh so you're just going to bring up ancient history? These are different times man.
Tournament 11 years ago - entirely relevant.You didn't qualify to Euro 08
Disregarding him, we have tons of world class players like Pulisic.Nah I've checked and can confirm your men's team still play Altidore and are therefore absolute and utter horseshite at football.
Over 2 legs I would bet my bottom dollar the US win 9/10Would back Ireland to beat the U.S, to be honest. When did they pass them, exactly? You're on a pretty similar level as teams go.
Congratulations on having a better league though, you know with all the money that exists within Irish football.
Jadon Sancho made him warm the bench at Dortmund.Disregarding him, we have tons of world class players like Pulisic.
Name another.Disregarding him, we have tons of world class players like Pulisic.
SorryIt’s the belief that kills you. I think for those of us that have followed the game for so long and taken so much crap from blokes that dismiss the game, this was ‘our’ tournament, our vindication. I shed tears, not too proud to admit that.
As I said, best of luck to the USA, but I’m gutted.
Nothing to be ashamed about mate, your girls put in a good showing. Could tell how much you cared as you've been posting very early on before England did anything and got the 2nd most posts in this thread.It’s the belief that kills you. I think for those of us that have followed the game for so long and taken so much crap from blokes that dismiss the game, this was ‘our’ tournament, our vindication. I shed tears, not too proud to admit that.
As I said, best of luck to the USA, but I’m gutted.
Name another.
In fairness, we can't play Lukaku who's slightly better.Nah I've checked and can confirm your men's team still play Altidore and are therefore absolute and utter horseshite at football.
Shouldn't be tough to name them thenDisregarding him, we have tons of world class players like Pulisic.
That’s what I’ve heard...Going down leaves a sour taste in the mouth and hard to swallow. Right.
Waited until the match finished at least!Well this didn't take long to degenerate did it.
The thing is NO ONE as far as I have read have said that the USA is anywhere NEAR England. They aren't not at all. The funny thing is the overall hate it seems English have over the US. They seem "scared" of the idea of USA overtaking them in there sport in the distant future. So then you have USA fans maybe trolling? because England fans get so mad at the crazy idea that one of the biggest and best Country in the world can go and begin to produce top level talent and grow as they have been in the future.I mean I was literally responding to a post bemoaning the complete lack of discussion about the men's team when you were in disarray and in need of a new manager but go off I guess.
Failure to qualify for a tournament that happened 1 year ago - ancient history
But:
Tournament 11 years ago - entirely relevant.
Nice one lads.
The US were better tonight, but were also favourites. Bit weird that you've got people coming in here going "haha England semi-finals haha", making direct reference to a tournament your men's team couldn't even qualify for, and as if your men's team is anywhere near the quality of England's at the moment (or do 1-0s over Curacao and Panama close the gap?).
Well yes, but there was once a thread on here touting Landon Donovan as the first US born Ballon D'or winner so I was willing to concede that Pulisic is of a level that we can clearly indicate as "not bang average" and thus to them, probably seems like a premature reincarnation of Messi.Or just name one because in no universe is Pulisic world class.
Brad GuzanName another.
And what WC players do England have? Just curious...Or just name one because in no universe is Pulisic world class.
He's not even the best Brad you've had in goal.Brad Guzan
Hmmm, there probably are parallel universes where he's world class.Or just name one because in no universe is Pulisic world class.
I’m an American, but I can’t think of one.Disregarding him, we have tons of world class players like Pulisic.
Thanks for clarifying budFurther on from the daylight stuff, can see below that it has never been a rule.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/3033085/FA-dismiss-offside-rule-change.html
http://asktheref.com/Soccer Rules/Question/3945/
I’m talking about the England’s women’s team. When I was at school I didn’t know a single girl that played the game, they didn’t do it in PE, there was no school team and no female sides at the junior clubs we played at. This was only 20 years ago. That’s completely changed within the past 10 years. City have to take some credit for raising the standard. They’ve taken their women’s team very seriously and have invested heavily in top facilities where girls are getting top coaching from a young age.People have been saying this for 20 years now and the best US team - by far - remains the 2002 world cup squad.
If Pulisic is world class, basically whatever 23 man squad was last selected all count.And what WC players do England have? Just curious...
That just shows you the absolute quality the other Brad was back then.He's not even the best Brad you've had in goal.
Not only the comfort but guaranteed money from year to year. Donovan, Bradley, Altidore, etc. weren't good enough to challenge at a higher European level consistently to have any financial stability combined with good competition. They are now/were amongst the highest paid players in MLS.Their 2002 team was superb. Friedel in goal, quite a tight and athletic back line and young guns like Dempsey and Donovan upfront having breakthrough tournaments. That game against Germany they should never have lost with Lahm penalty not given and other misses so that's their what if historical game like a few of the England ones. Would've been a semi final v South Korea aswell which would've been winnable.
2010 I thought they had a decent team aswell. That tournament they were let down by Bob Bradley mediocre tactics and rigidly sticking to 4-4-2 when imo 4-3-3 would've been a better fit (could've played Donovan and Dempsey as wide forwards and had Bradley Jr more licence to get in the box). Could've got them to the quarters, last 16 didn't feel enough.
2014 they did well to get out of the group but were battered by Belgium so that was their limit.
I think a problem in past is too many of their big players just prefer the comfort of MLS rather than fully testing themselves in europe. Donovan came to Leverkusen and quickly scurried back. When he came to Everton in his late 20s he was actually alright. Bradley Jr was doing fine in Italy and then just went back to play for the Canadian MLS team. That has a knock on effect for NT when you get to knock out rounds of World cups imo.
This is why you're deservedly a mod.i just hope all of the players had fun