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Do you mean to say that England are mentally weak in WC when it comes to chasing cos they've chased a lot of big totals before in ODIS?
Yes. We choke in basically all big competitions, in pretty much all sports :lol:
 

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How badly do NZ have to lose from there for Pakistan to even have a chance?
SRR = Average run rate over the tournament while scoring
CRR = Average run rate conceded over the tournament while bowling
NRR = SRR - CRR

Prior to this match, New Zealand:
Scored 1488 runs in 294* overs (SRR = 5.06)
Conceded 1563 runs in 348* overs (CRR = 4.49)
Their NRR = 5.06 - 4.49 = 0.57

Prior to their match, Pakistan:
Scored 1710 runs in 339* overs (SRR = 5.04)
Conceded 1772** runs in 303.7* overs (CRR = 5.83)
Their NRR = 5.04 - 5.83 = - 0.79

*if you're bowled out in less than 50 overs, run rate is calculated over all 50 overs
** Adjusted for the 301 target India set through DLS


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So lets say NZ get bowled out for 180 today. Their final NRR will be 4.84 - 4.69 = 0.15


In the next game, if Pak go first and score 350 (taking their SRR to 5.29), to match NZ's NRR of 0.15 they need a CRR of 5.14.
Say Bangladesh score x runs, then (1772+x)/353.7 = 5.14, then x is 46 runs.
If Bangladesh go first and are 100 all out (taking Pak's CRR to 5.29), then Pak need to chase it down in say x overs to get a SRR of 5.44.
(1810)/(339+x) = 5.44, then x is -7 overs.

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Basically, as long as Bangladesh score more than 50 runs in either innings, Pakistan are out of the tournament.
 

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Right, compare wrong decisions in a game vs an actual rained out game. It's all the same :lol: Let's take it a step further. If Stokes wasn't talented England would likely not win their game too :lol:
He’s not talented. It’s all hype or something.
 

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What is so funny about that? The performances in the games they have lost have not been good enough?
That can be said for any team.

Sri Lanka pitch wasn't wasn't a road and England couldn't cope, same vs Australia but yeah......
 

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SRR = Average run rate over the tournament while scoring
CRR = Average run rate conceded over the tournament while bowling
NRR = SRR - CRR

Prior to this match, New Zealand:
Scored 1488 runs in 294* overs (SRR = 5.06)
Conceded 1563 runs in 348* overs (CRR = 4.49)
Their NRR = 5.06 - 4.49 = 0.57

Prior to their match, Pakistan:
Scored 1710 runs in 339* overs (SRR = 5.04)
Conceded 1772** runs in 303.7* overs (CRR = 5.83)
Their NRR = 5.04 - 5.83 = - 0.79

*if you're bowled out in less than 50 overs, run rate is calculated over all 50 overs
** Adjusted for the 301 target India set through DLS


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So lets say NZ get bowled out for 180 today. Their final NRR will be 4.84 - 4.69 = 0.15


In the next game, if Pak go first and score 350 (taking their SRR to 5.29), to match NZ's NRR of 0.15 they need a CRR of 5.14.
Say Bangladesh score x runs, then (1772+x)/353.7 = 5.14, then x is 46 runs.
If Bangladesh go first and are 100 all out (taking Pak's CRR to 5.29), then Pak need to chase it down in say x overs to get a SRR of 5.44.
(1810)/(339+x) = 5.44, then x is -7 overs.

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Basically, as long as Bangladesh score more than 50 runs in either innings, Pakistan are out of the tournament.
WOW!!
 

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Its because you see a number of other people moaning about England and their pitches yet forgetting Kohli is moaning about stuff like this. Its the hypocrisy. Personally it was quite funny.
Kohli compared the boundary of the pitch while scoring 27 in the first 10 overs. If the boundary was so small, why did they only score 1 six in the entire innings. The criticism after the game and a go at an excuse was laughable.

Bairstow was just having a massive moan. England havent lost because of pitches, they've lost in the games they have because they have been shite.
By the looks of it i's you who come across as the biggest Hypocrite. SO let me get this correct Kohli's moaning about boundary is an excuse but Bairstow complaining about pitches and media after losing to Australia and Sri Lanka is ok. Also, if you go and look at the comments from Indian fans you would find many actually criticizing Kohli's comments. We are not acting hypocrites , it's you who are showing your hypocrisy.
 

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That can be said for any team.

Sri Lanka pitch wasn't wasn't a road and England couldn't cope, same vs Australia but yeah......
They didn't apply themselves. England just haven't won solely on 'roads' in the last 2 years (despite what you read on here). They still have that weakness to adopt and change their approach when they lose wickets. Sometimes they have done it but not enough.
 

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So basically all the group stages after this are pointless. The only race is who finishes one and second but Aussies will trash Saffers.
 

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By the looks of it i's you who come across as the biggest Hypocrite. SO let me get this correct Kohli's moaning about boundary is an excuse but Bairstow complaining about pitches and media after losing to Australia and Sri Lanka is ok. Also, if you go and look at the comments from Indian fans you would find many actually criticizing Kohli's comments. We are not acting hypocrites , it's you who are showing your hypocrisy.
I didn't agree with Bairstow's comments nor am I defending them. If you can point to where I have defended them, then please do. Its stupid to moan about the pitch. If you look at my post about England you will notice, I said they lost because they were crap. The pitch, boundary etc is the same for both teams and I disagree with anyone moaning about it. Its just an excuse whether that be Bairstow or Kohli.

I'm fully aware not all fans are hypocrites mainly referring to the ones who defended the comments.
 

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BTW, you can't suddenly dig a hole in the pitch before the game and tell the opposition "oi if I'm playing on it so will you be so we're fair here right".

An extreme example to portray that "you had the same boundary" isn't a valid reply to what Kohli said. Whether he was right or wrong and if a shortened boundary matters that much, I don't know.
If the ICC allowed us to play on a pitch with a big hole in the pitch then all is fair. You do realise that there was a cricket ground in England that had a tree growing in the middle of the out field. No one seemed to complain about that.

By the way has anyone even gone to check if that was the shortest ever boundary in an international cricket match?
By ground size: Feroz Shah Kotla Ground in Delhi is the smallest international cricket ground as per size. The square boundary is 56 meters and the straight boundary is 60 meters. Though the stadium's seating capacity is 50,000 people, the playing area is small.
 

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If the ICC allowed us to play on a pitch with a big hole in the pitch then all is fair. You do realise that there was a cricket ground in England that had a tree growing in the middle of the out field. No one seemed to complain about that.

By the way has anyone even gone to check if that was the shortest ever boundary in an international cricket match?
By ground size: Feroz Shah Kotla Ground in Delhi is the smallest international cricket ground as per size. The square boundary is 56 meters and the straight boundary is 60 meters. Though the stadium's seating capacity is 50,000 people, the playing area is small.
I reckon we should start having 2 or 3 trees and a bunch of cows on the pitch, really spice it up.
 

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Only people who might disagree are the English and nz supporters.
No think English supporters are in agreement on reserve days, just don't think it massively impacted the tournament.
 

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They didn't apply themselves. England just haven't won solely on 'roads' in the last 2 years (despite what you read on here). They still have that weakness to adopt and change their approach when they lose wickets. Sometimes they have done it but not enough.
Give England a pitch which offers something to bowlers and they don't "apply themselves" but on a flat pitch, back to scoring 300+. IMO England on a flat pitch will win majority of their games but as soon as they get a pitch which offers something to bowlers, nearly every batsman struggles. England don't struggle on pitches which offers something to bowlers because they don't "apply themselves" but because that's not their strength, nothing wrong with it as every team has different strengths. Nothing to do with they didn't "apply themselves" thats just an excuse.

Your defence is strange as that can be said for any team, NZ today for example.
 

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Shame for the tournament this match is drifting and the Pakistan Bangladesh match won’t matter but I’m so glad I don’t have to go through the stress of it :lol:
 

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No think English supporters are in agreement on reserve days, just don't think it massively impacted the tournament.
This NZ side getting to the semis is evidence it has impacted the tournament.
 

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If NZ had won today, I don't think Pakistan would have beaten Bangladesh or even beaten them regardless.