Some seem to take the suggestion very personally right from the start of the thread.
ICC Cricket World Cup 2019
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Why would we care? We haven't gained or lost out to the rain days.
We are watching a sport where weather often stops matches. It's not like this is the first time this has happened. It will not be the last time this will happen.
Boundary length like I said may or may not be an issue. I don't agree with the comments but you can't say it's fine because applies for us both. You can question conditions even if it applies to both teams.
Are NZ significantly worse than Pakistan? Because then it would be a major impact. I'm not saying there wasn't any and Pakistan have every right to be aggrieved. But it's a bit like losing a crucial toss.
Didn't Pakistan qualify in 92 because of the rain ?
Again just downplaying the whether as "stopping the sport". England shouldn't host world cups if they don't arrange for rain days as it threatens the integrity of the game and the tournament.
This tournament we all got lucky, yeah NZ went over Pakistan but had India, Aus or Eng been affected and someone like Sri Lanka went through instead it would have reflected poorly. It already is a joke that a 6 week tournament had a week of basically no results.
Over the course of the tournament Pakistan have been better than NZ, they beat much stronger sides and are the better team.
No chance, that tournament was in Australia, it never rains there according to @shamans
Who hates England? That's crazy. Their just an annoying sports team
Please compare the rain day in Aus vs England. Also, something happened 27 years ago so yeah let's not learn from it and keep it the same.
Great to see the lung bursting efforts from England near the ropes. Bairstow and now Root j going at it like their lives depended on it.
Wood gives that effort away with a wide next ball, but still.
Wood gives that effort away with a wide next ball, but still.
Not really sure what your issue is but England have won plenty of matches on challenging pitches in the last two years. Part of the reason they went to number 1 in the world.
Ask the people getting pissy over having reserve days.
Thats some strawman.
Hopefully this will be a learning point about reserve days. I think the broader issue is the length of the tournament. Clearly it's too long to have reserve days but not so long enough that a team can feel unjustly about a rained off match.
All told the performances under pressure have been pretty impressive from England these past two matches. Lets hope we keep winning tosses.
Reserve days sound like a logistical nightmare for a tournament already too long.
And without any washouts the top 4 order would have been totally different, playing semis on different grounds. Yet some ignorant smartiepants seem to believe that the washouts had no effect whatsoever on anything.
Was talking about the WC not outside of it.
"England havent lost because of pitches, they've lost in the games they have because they have been shite." When its not a flat pitch, England are shite or didn't "apply themselves" but otherwise its Ok.
Just laughing at your excuses for loosing on pitches which aren't flat.
Seems pretty obvious to me that the rain's played a role this tournament. If it were dry New Zealand probably have a point less while Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh could all have a point (or 2) more. There's maybe a 50% chance of one of them taking New Zealand's place.
Yeah major impact on Pakistan for sure but for the wider tournament I don't think Pakistan are significantly better than NZ, we essentially have the 5th best team in the semis instead of the 4th and that is assuming Pakistan beat Sri Lanka which isn't a banker.
Not that it matters but don't think that's correct. It's more like 100 all out. Would be fun to see if they do go for it. Could backfire and see Pakistan 34 all out.
Pakistan have never lost to SL in WC so chances of them beating them would have been very high. Also, considering they were coming off a win over England they would have fancied beating SL. Having said that the reason PAK are not in top 4 is not because of Rain but because they woke up late in the tournament. They should not have lost to WI.
Don't think Pak will beat Bangla tomorrow so it's moot.
If they had batted sensibly and got to atleast 200 then maybe they'd have a slight chance.
I mean they could just play the following day. Unfortunate for the fans that couldn’t attend, but better to play in a half empty stadium than not have the game.
I don’t think I’ve seen anyone claim it had no effect whatsoever. It did potentially cost Pakistan, but that’s going off the assumption that they wouldn’t go out there and get 100 all out like they did against the Windies.
It’s unfortunate, but all the governing bodies knew the rules and the likelihood of rainy days, why wasn’t extra days pushed for beforehand, instead of crying about it now it’s potentially effected your team.
"If Pakistan bowl first on Friday they cannot get through on run rate" How does that work?
Say for example, Bangladesh get bowled out for 50 runs & Pakistan chase it down in 4 overs wouldn't they get a massive NRR boost?
I did the math, and that's not true.
Edit: NVM. If Pak score 400 then they need to get Bangladesh all out within 85 runs. So actually 100 is a decent approximation.
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It's not always that easy. You would have TV not wanting two big games to clash at the same time. You'd also have to plan travel days and the time between each team's games with reserve days in mind. India, for example just had two games in three days which wouldn't have been possible to do if you had to account for a possible reserve day. It would make things longer.
Was right when I said NZ won't make it to 280.
Know need Australia to lose to SA and Us to win vs Sri Lanka.
Rather face NZ than England.
Know need Australia to lose to SA and Us to win vs Sri Lanka.
Rather face NZ than England.
So the easiest way Bangladesh can knock out Pakistan tomorrow is to win the toss. 
This is why I said that Pak should have done better against Afghanistan. NZ actually lost by a decent margin today if they had beaten Afghan by a good margin they would have an outside shot at least making it on NRR.
So the easiest way Bangladesh can knock out Pakistan tomorrow is to win the toss.
And put Pakistan in?
Apparently this is the correct scenario:
"If Pakistan make 350, they need to bowl Bangladesh out for 38
If Pakistan score 400, they need to bowl Bangladesh out for 84
If Bangladesh bat first, there is no chance of Pakistan qualifying"
"If Pakistan make 350, they need to bowl Bangladesh out for 38
If Pakistan score 400, they need to bowl Bangladesh out for 84
If Bangladesh bat first, there is no chance of Pakistan qualifying"
Yeah for sure. Maybe they just should play the latest cricket game on PS4. Everyone plays as themselves. Winner gets the points.
The West Indies game knocked 0.5 off their NRR straight away. They were doomed after their first game.
Uhm, there is something that's not adding up. Pak's NRR is -.792 Which means cumulative RR is -0.792*8=-6.336
For NZ, they finish with a cumulative NRR of 0.175*9=1.575
Which means Pak needs to cover a Run rate of 7.911
This is equivalent to a win by 396 runs
If Pak bowl second, and Bangladesh score 100, they'll need to win by scoring at a RR of 9.911 which means get the target in slightly less than 10 overs