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After some discussion, Amadeus convinced MP to come out in public and apologize.
After some discussion, Amadeus convinced MP to come out in public and apologize.
Not really. First half we were the better side. Both performance and fitness wise. Second half they were better but not by much. We actually came back from the 70th min and looked ok. I don't look too much into the results in pre season but we were the better side today.Spurs had the upper hand in the game. performance wise.
I'd play Greenwood before Gomes, and Mata must always be on the bench if he is not starting.I would like to see the following
De Gea
Wan Lindelof Axel Shaw ( if we are playing a team that use a long ball to a tall CF then Smalling in place of Axel)
Mac New DM or (Periera)
Pogba
Gomes
Rashford Martial
Use Greenwood and James as impact subs
DisagreeI'd play Greenwood before Gomes, and Mata must always be on the bench if he is not starting.
We were far better first half. They had the better of us for 20 minutes in the 2nd half.Spurs had the upper hand in the game. performance wise.
Pereira played the ball, for sure.
That is the good thing about McTominay. He is not scared of anyone or anything.McTominay pushing Kane back off Pereira like he's nothing
With playing all the games so far in a 4231 I think that will be the preferred formation with the occasional diamond.I would like to see the following
De Gea
Wan Lindelof Axel Shaw ( if we are playing a team that use a long ball to a tall CF then Smalling in place of Axel)
Mac New DM or (Periera)
Pogba
Gomes
Rashford Martial
Use Greenwood and James as impact subs
From someone who didn't have a chance to watch it, much appreciated.Positives:
- it was a competitive match, fierce challenges, Spurs pushing for an equalizer early in the 2nd half, then again late on
- Lovely goal from Gomes
- Martial showed both quality and work-rate,
- Dan James' pace and work-rate seemed to frighten Spurs
- McTominay distributed the ball well, shut down danger in our box,
- First half team seemed reasonably well organised, not perfect though
Negatives:
- Second half team did a poor job of keeping Spurs away from our goal
- Careless moments through-out the match
- Bailly's injury
- a few players in the 2nd half team looked complacent to me
Other things I noticed:
- Greenwood had a quiet 45 mins. Lost possession cheaply twice but otherwise seemed fine.
- Andreas Pereira used as a no 10
Overall encouraging
I almost cannot recall any other manager apologising to the opposition for bad tackles.Clever from Pochettino, keeping United fans warm to him for when he takes over as manager.
Agreed. Neither of these are anything like mobile enough for the type of play that Ole is going for.well, I think its obvious that we lost the midfield when McTominay and Pogba came off.even Pereira is better than Fred. Id rather have Gomez than Jesse although Jesse's workrate is excellent, his end product isnt always there - although he still has a lot to offer, I reckon. Id get rid of fred, Sanchez, Matic and Lukaku. now.
Yea, I understand that, but even at top teams like Real Madrid, Bayern, Barcelona, Man City, etcetera, I recognize a lot of their players when they make wholesale changes. The point I am getting at is that for Spurs to be a top club, they need to fix their squad depth issue. You can’t just have a strong first eleven and average players waiting on the side. When trying to compete for trophies, that formula doesn’t have much success. Disregarding our spending, United have such strong depth because we have identified some great youngster at an early age and brought them through our academy. Spurs has some good players out there from their academy. The striker Pierrot looked good, and skipp as well, but the rest looks like they deserve to be playing in the championship.You seem not to recognise that a big part of the purpose of pre-season friendlies is try out some young players, perhaps more so with Pochettino than many other managers.
Moreover, Lloris, Dier, Wanyama, Davies, Aurier and Sanchez were all unavailable.
Good. Even if some of the challenges in the first have went a little over the top for a friendly. Overall I was pleased with the youth on display from both sides. As for the play itself it came and went in spurts which is understandable as this is only our second pre-season game and we played a fairly kid heavy lineup - especially at fullback which really hurt our ability to create in the wide areas.What did our resident Spurs fans think of the game?
And what about Dalot? He’s younger than some of those mentioned...As for United I thought McTominay was very impressive, Greenwood didn't really do anything, James looks extremely fast but not much else to him yet, Gomes looked very good and showed it with that excellent goal. Disappointed to have not seen Garner or Chong though.
True that he struggles under pressure, and his touch is very either or. Hopefully he can turn it around and become a good squad player at least. Would love to see him dribble a bit more when under pressure, instead of just panicking. Seems kinda similar to Sanchez when he puts on the shirt. Just can't handle it for some reason.The bold part is true to an extent when he has time on the ball, but as soon as he’s put under any kind of pressure that all goes down the drain.
Plus, his touch is inconsistent to say the least so if he’s going to improve he has quite a job to do, a borderline miracle.
Dalot played?And what about Dalot? He’s younger than some of those mentioned...
It’s awesomeMcTominay pushing Kane back off Pereira like he's nothing
So many rockets sent up there he must have the runs.I wonder if the lack of United fans (compared to what we'd normally see in pre-season) will put a rocket up Ed's arse.
WD40 needed yesFred looks rusty.
My takeaways:Just watched the game, not suprised that our squad depth was proven superior as I mentioned earlier in this thread. The first half was a good performance, I liked what I saw of Martial as a number 9 and it gave us more option for this role for next season. Mctominay was my man of the match in that half. He looks like a true leader and showed his strength and intelligence. Should be a starter next season at United.
I am once again surprised about the quality of depth we have at United. I knew we had good squad depth, but with the likes of our academy players looking ready to push for first team football, it give us more options to choose from. I somewhat agree with Ole that I would be happy if we go into next season with the current team. However, I believe to fight for the title, we will need a center back and a right attacker. Pepe/Bruno and Maguire will make us challenge.
De Gea
AWB - Linderloff - Maguire - Shaw
Mctominay/Matic - Fred/Pogba/Pirera
Pepe/Lingard/Chong - Pogba/Gomes/Mata - Martial/Sanchez
Rashford/Martial/Greenwood
Spurs was more dominant in the second half surprisingly and Pochettino has most likely realized that he still has a long way to go if we wants to consistently challenge for the highest honors. Beyond his first team, there is some serious squad quality problem there. I didn’t recognized half the name that he put out, and I believe most of those players will be at a mid table club sooner rather than later. Pochettino seems focused on their midfield and attack in his rebuilding project but if he doesn’t address replacing Trippier and rose(and other first team players that might leave with quality players), then he could do worse than last season.
I see him as captain material.That is the good thing about McTominay. He is not scared of anyone or anything.
He is tough when it counts.
I agree and would love to see that line up in the PLMy takeaways:
Positives
* James has potential - I can see him getting 15-20 appearances
* Greenwood, I thought he crossed the ball into dangerous areas and movement was good
* Martial wants to play striker. That much is evident
* Gomes better than Mata or Lingard. His playing time should reflect that
* Ultra quick swarming when losing the ball in the opponent’s third
* McTominay looks great - he’d be in my starting 11
* Tuanzebe looks great - he’d also be in my starting 11
Negatives:
* Lingard, and Mata aren’t bad players. But they can never play together. The pieces don’t fit. Poor Rashford is just waiting to be sprung, and neither can do it.
* Fred.... you have just a handful of appearances left to prove it to us. For whatever reason, we’ve managed to buy the one Brazilian in the world with a poor first touch.
* Pogba was pretty quiet. Had him alongside McT as a holding MF. I just don’t think that you can play him there and get an enthusiastic performance
* A lot of poor decision making by Dalot. As a backup, he’s fine, but you can’t have as your first choice RB. Hence, the AWB purchase...
DDG
AWB Tuanzebe Lindelof Shaw
McTominay
Andreas Pogba
Gomes
Rashford Martial
Positives:
- it was a competitive match, fierce challenges, Spurs pushing for an equalizer early in the 2nd half, then again late on
- Lovely goal from Gomes
- Martial showed both quality and work-rate,
- Dan James' pace and work-rate seemed to frighten Spurs
- McTominay distributed the ball well, shut down danger in our box,
- First half team seemed reasonably well organised, not perfect though
Negatives:
- Second half team did a poor job of keeping Spurs away from our goal
- Careless moments through-out the match
- Bailly's injury
- a few players in the 2nd half team looked complacent to me
Other things I noticed:
- Greenwood had a quiet 45 mins. Lost possession cheaply twice but otherwise seemed fine.
- Andreas Pereira used as a no 10
Overall encouraging
And that is excatly why we're pushing for a 7th CB,who happens to cost a fortune and they're doubts if he is really going improve us as his price tag suggests.Matic and Fred have no business starting PL games for us. We'll get bulldozed in CM.
Don't want to be mean but I thought he was quite poor in this game. I've seen him do better last season though so that's why I never mentioned him.And what about Dalot? He’s younger than some of those mentioned...
Also what happened to Cameron Borthwick-Jackson? Can't remember how long ago it was but I remember thinking highly of him.Don't want to be mean but I thought he was quite poor in this game. I've seen him do better last season though so that's why I never mentioned him.
Remember Zeki Fryers? Similar.Also what happened to Cameron Borthwick-Jackson? Can't remember how long ago it was but I remember thinking highly of him.
After some discussion, Amadeus convinced MP to come out in public and apologize.